Art + Ideas

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James Cuno: Hello, I'm Jim Cuno, president of the J. Paul Getty Trust in Los Angeles. One of the best parts of my job is meeting and speaking with people whose work brings them to the Getty to consult our museum and research collections or to work with colleagues in the Getty's research programs. Art + Ideas is a podcast in which I speak with some of these people, artists, conservators, authors, and scholars about their work. My guests include creative thinkers like architect Frank Gehry.

Frank Gehry: My father always wrote me off as a dreamer. So he didn't have much hope for me. My mother was always comparing me to her friend's sons who were doing well, so I had a bad time.

Cuno: Curator Helen Molesworth.

Helen Molesworth: The ideas come in and the ideas return. And that for me is a way of thinking about how ideas and people move that create more complicated networks of cause and effect.

Cuno: Art historian T.J. Clark.

T.J. Clark: I hate those kinds of psychoanalytic moments when you can hear the kind of machine of interpretation grinding and, oh yes, it's the Oedipus complex again.

Cuno: And potter and author Edmund de Waal.

Edmund de Waal: I'm totally waylaid. By wonderful happenstance, by finding things out, and that takes me off in different directions.

Cuno: I also speak with historian Peter Frankopan, archaeologist Colin Renfrew, art historian Yve-Alain Bois, and singer, poet, and author Patti Smith. Art + Ideas is available on iTunes, Google Play, and SoundCloud. To learn more about Art + Ideas, visit getty dot edu slash podcasts.

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