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Re: [teacherartexchange] blue clouds


Date: Sun Sep 24 2006 - 11:37:11 PDT

Ah Rhoda Kellogg....that is a name that brings back warm fuzzy memories. I used
a lot of her research and ideas on how children teach themselves how to draw in
my dissertation. I have great admiration for her dedication and contributions.

I am concerned about the direction of our anybody else
concerned? Am I just getting older and out of date here...or is the Visual
Culture approach taking us to a place we might not want to go? Does anybody
else think about these things?

I think about my own majors and our degree plans. They certainly are not being
educated in mass culture or popular culture. They participate in it to some
extent (remember this is Denton, Texas :-) They are not being educated in
sociology or anthropology to any great extent. In fact, the degree is a BA,
rather than a BS. So I guess on top of everything else that art teacher
educators are supposed to teach, they have to introduce the content of Visual
Culture. Geeshhh. I barely have time to do the minimum... Also, the state of
Texas, in all of its magnificent glory, still requires that we teach art
history, aesthetics, criticism and art studio. So on the one hand the
profession is leading us in one way and the state is telling us to go another
way. Art Teacher Educators are caught in the middle and my students are close


> -----Original Message-----
> From: pknott
> << It boggles me as to why we want to push to conventions and not
> nurture the inherit perceptions.?
> Look and find the wonderful insights the little ones make with the
> "rule breaking." It's the only way we can make artists.? >>
> ?
> The big issue of how art education works has emerged as the focus of
> this great discussion which began with a small question about blue
> clouds. This goes to the core of what each of us is trying to
> accomplish in our classrooms. Jonathan Feinberg of Univ. of Illinois
> in THE INNOCENT EYE documents the way that important 20th century
> artists saved, studied and used the "unschooled" art of young children
> to inform their own art making. Rhoda Kellogg documented thousands of
> "unschooled" child drawings from all over the world and found wonderful
> connections among them, country to country and through decades of time.
> Can we question ourselves as art educators on this topic: Do we
> celebrate this universal human achievement of mark making as Kellogg,
> Fieinberg, Lowenfeld and masters like Picasso, Klee, Kandinski did? And
> encourage individual and quirky expression when we see it? or do our
> students have to fit a mold that we feel we must make for them?
> Online conversations of this sort are so exciting. Thanks to this
> great group for keeping us all thinking.
> kathy douglas
> in massachusetts
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Dr. Diane C. Gregory
Associate Professor of Art Education
Director, Graduate & Undergraduate Studies in
Art Education
Department of Visual Arts
Texas Woman's University
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