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> hi all.
> I think Kathy has some real good points , but I don't agree that you can't cure
> them with an interesting lesson. This reminds me of a student I had last year
> where he was a big pain. Nothing seemed to work, very negative, a real kid of
> the streets. But my student teacher found something that he felt very
> successful about and it turned him around completely. It was hard to believe.
> And the project was weaving , which really surprised me.
> It isn't just this one instant that makes me feel this way , but from other
> lessons that I have found have calmed the savage beast... sort of speak. Does
> it work all the time? Definitely not, but you never know what you might latch
> on to that will work.
> Kathy Tickner wrote:
> > Stephanie,
> > I think bringing in something "special" like a 3-d project, is rewarding
> > them for bad behavior and negative attitudes. I have been an art teacher for
> > k-8 for twelve years, and it doesn't matter what age, bad attitudes cannot
> > be "cured" by providing more expensive, enthralling, creative art projects.
> > That just gives them license to be more destructive, hence heightening your
> > frustration. First and foremost your students need to realize that
> > controlled behavior is of utmost importance, not their perception of what
> > the art room should be! The art experience becomes fun, because students
> > have developed intrinsic self-control, not teacher-led control through
> > "entertainment and pizazz!" I would keep your projects simple, but
> > interesting, using positive reinforcement through the "caught being good
> > system" Lots, and Lots of positive comments about kids with the good
> > behavior, and don't hesitate for a minute to quietly whisper into the kids
> > with the bad behavior that they will be doing some "time" with you during
> > their lunch or recess. Whispering in their ear is very powerful, because it
> > gets the point across, without making the other kids feel intimidated, plus
> > no kid that I have ever met likes when a teacher gets that close....it
> > violates their "space" and looks uncool!
> > I hope you think of something without increasing your frustration and
> > workload.
> > Kathy Tickner
> > Byron School District (near Bay Area, CA)
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Stephanie Ignazio [smi]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 28, 1999 2:36 PM
> > To: artsed
> > Subject: 5th grade problems..any solutions?
> > Hi everyone. I am having what I like to call " A DAY ". Problem is one of my
> > fifth grades. One class is super...well, not Super with a capital S...but
> > can work in small groups, can listen to one another..most of the time,
> > etc....the other is a handful, have really bad attitudes, waste lots of time
> > and I am at a loss for what to do. I am thinking of taking the approach of
> > bringing an interesting project to the table and seeing if the materials can
> > motivate them. My thought is 3D...any interesting ideas out there...and
> > please send me some "coping vibes" for now!!! thanks...stephanie