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RE>artsednet-digest V2 #953

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Cathy Cimellaro (
02 Oct 98 10:14:08 -0700

a message from cathy . . .
I wasn't going to get involved in this scenario, but I can't sit here and listen to this anymore without getting involved. Some of you are looking at the issue of furs by truly misunderstanding the issues. First of all the lady that wore the fur coat was teaching about the rainforest. Where do furs come from there? Secondly, furs worn today, are not furs from endangered species. The fur worn today is from animals that are raised for that purpose. Fur is to keep people warm. If you have never worn a fur for warmth in the winter in a place where the wind just blows through you, then you don't realize that your wool coat just doesn't do the job. Are you putting down the Eskimo people or people that live in Siberia? Come on people use some common sense. Most people do not parade around in fur coats, they are a minority, and as you know there are many who are eccentric in their ways. Maybe this principal is one of them. I agree that if someone spray painted my coat (if I wore one),!
they would have hell to pay with me. It is my personal property and that is vandalism! Is that what you want to teach your students? You might as well give them spray cans and teach tagging to them as an art form. If you decided to use PETA as a basis for your answers, please read the "teachings" of that group and most of you will change your mind. I will leave you with a quote from an Ingird Newkirk organizer of PETA. She said, "A rat . . . is a pig . . . is a dog . . . is a boy. Think about that.

Date: 10/1/98 3:03 PM
To: Cathy Cimellaro
From: artsednet

artsednet-digest Thursday, October 1 1998 Volume 02 : Number 953

This edition includes :
Re: artsednet-digest V2 #951
Re: artsednet-digest V2 #951
Re: Principals In Furs?
Re: Landscape Lessons
R: Cartooning Ideas
Re: Art Teacher's curse
Picasso quote
Re: Art Teacher's curse
search engines for images
To Peggy Woolsey regarding rude students
discussion ettequette response and thanks for the ideas.
Rubric Assessment
I need input on my new class!
Learning before the Project
Re: Principals In Furs?
Re: Principals In Furs?
Re: cartooning ideas
Re: Principals In Furs?
Re: Visit with an extrordinary man's art.....
A&E.A:Inquiry Question response


Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:47:58 -0700
Subject: Re: artsednet-digest V2 #951

I would like help with a slide presentation on art of our times. Perhaps I
would choose a decade like the 60s and show selections of the 10 years and
play some tapes along with the visuals. It would be grare to high
schoolers or adults. It could last between a half to a whole hour.

Who would you include in such a presentation? Would another decade be
better? I think I would not include architecture but limit the works to
sculpture and painting. Is this too ambitious and broad?

I'm doing this for presentation to community groups as part of my
requirements to become a docent.

I also am considering Stuart Davis' wprk as amn alternative to the above
subject. Another subject I've toyed with is the Pop artist.



Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1998 20:47:58 -0700
Subject: Re: artsednet-digest V2 #951

I would like help with a slide presentation on art of our times. Perhaps I
would choose a decade like the 60s and show selections of the 10 years and
play some tapes along with the visuals. It would be grare to high
schoolers or adults. It could last between a half to a whole hour.

Who would you include in such a presentation? Would another decade be
better? I think I would not include architecture but limit the works to
sculpture and painting. Is this too ambitious and broad?

I'm doing this for presentation to community groups as part of my
requirements to become a docent.

I also am considering Stuart Davis' wprk as amn alternative to the above
subject. Another subject I've toyed with is the Pop artist.



Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 00:24:47 -0500
From: "John Bundy" <jibundy>
Subject: Re: Principals In Furs?

Please remember we all are entitled to our opinions. If I choose to wear fur
I shall. If you throw paint on it I will file assault charges and seek
damages. I would also purchase another fur to replace it. Don't get me wrong
I don't encourage any one to bop baby seals in the head. You again have a
right to your opinion and so do I . I respect your opinion please respect
mine. And so You don't think I am a wasteful killer of Animals you should
know I have served on Regional Conservation Boards. Respectfully John Bundy
- -----Original Message-----
From: wendy sauls <wsauls>
To: RB7Surf7 <RB7Surf7>;
Date: Tuesday, September 29, 1998 10:05 PM
Subject: Re: Principals In Furs?

>At 08:37 PM 9/29/98 EDT, RB7Surf7 wrote:
>>The one thing that really turns me off is women wearing full legnth fur
>>to schools.
>call peta! or organize a performance art piece involving spray paint!
>seriously, a unit on social commentary could be really cool - kollowitz,
>lange, siquieros, goya, daumier, guerrilla girls - there are so many! also
>there is this terrific book called graphic agitation published by phaidon
>on this theme. i wish there were more alternatives to animal products.
>it's hard to completely avoid leather shoes, esp. given our love for birks.
>of course, one could argue everyone has the right to wear what they choose,
>even if some think slinging the carcass of another animal around our
>shoulders is pretty awful. i guess you have to decide where to draw the
>line between freedom and cruelty...
>Wendy Sauls
>Art Teacher, Kanapaha Middle School, Gainesville, FL
>Doctoral Student, Art Education, Florida State University
>home page:


Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:10:38 -0500
From: rojul (Rosa Juliusdottir)
Subject: Re: Landscape Lessons

How about collage? My students have done some real successful landscapes in
collage. We have painted the paper we are going to use and also used paper
from magazines.
Regards from the far north, Rosa


Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 11:22:22 +0100
From: Ben Schasfoort <Ben.Schasfoort>
Subject: R: Cartooning Ideas

Jim Robinson and Linda Fields asked for lesson ideas about cartooning. This
item is probably a world wide one because in the Netherlands we even have
official booklets published about it. (In Dutch).
There is a book about cartoons every art teachere dealing with this item
should have. Also very good to explain everything of cartoons to students.
Scott McCloud: Understanding Comics. The Invisible Art. Kitchen Sink Press
You will not be disappointed. It is a classic.
Ben Schasfoort


Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 08:15:09 EDT
From: MarshArt
Subject: Re: Art Teacher's curse

In a message dated 9/30/98 8:42:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
woolspeg writes:

> I literally shake my head over this on a daily basis. . Most of the
> kids are great but the loud and the rude can easily demand and get large
> amounts of attention. Peggy, after another bad day.(Can someone tell me if
I'm in the wrong profession?)

You are not in the wrong profession...the kids are in the wrong
generation....they watch too much of Simpsons.



Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:52:29 -0400
From: "joym" <joym>
Subject: Picasso quote

"Every child is an artist. The problem is how to remain an artist once he
grows up."

The perspective that we ALL have innate creative potential is integral to
art therapy. I have been talking with other artists on the Net about the
second part of this quote. Do you, as art teachers, own the "artist" in
you? Can you comfortably refer to yourselves as artists as well as
teachers? Are art teaching, art therapy, art museum curatorship etc. etc
"shadow careers" for those that fear the challenge of trying to be an
artist in the world? How possible or impossible do we make it for children
to grow into full time artists in today's society? What do YOU do to keep
your own "artist" self vibrant? Big questions, huh? I am currently
pursuing the Artist's Way process. If any of you are interested, you are
invited to the ART SPEAKS! chat Wed's at 8:00 EST You can also reserve a
time for any other art related topic or media, just let me know. You can
find ART SPEAKS! at


Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 10:56:27 -0400 (EDT)
From: Stenger - Judith DiSalvo <jstenger>
Subject: Re: Art Teacher's curse

My hands are usually a mess, and when I stop in the store after school, I
guess people mistake me for a mechanic. But an art teacher I had about
40 years ago, and whom I greatly admire, (Hello, Barbara Mc Geary) told
us that artists should never be ashamed of hands that create beauty.


Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 20:18:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andrew Stutesman <stutes>
Subject: search engines for images

Hello all,

Hope the year is going good! For those of you who like the internet
as a tool, here some addresses for search engines that are devoted to
looking for images. Two of them are prototypes, which means that
sometime in the near future you may have to enter your credit card
number and become a "member" of the site in order to have access to
their data. But for now, they are all free.


Altavista's Corbis Picture Experience
Getty Center's image browser (searches not only Getty, but 600 other
web sites for images)
A search engine, made specifically to find images
Another search engine devoted to images

- -
Don't you hear it? she asked & I shook my head
no & then she started to dance & suddenly there
was music everywhere & it went on for a very long
time & when I finally found words all I could say was
thank you. - Brian Andreas

Get your free address at


Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 13:08:56 -0400
From: "Pamela W. Lackey" <>
Subject: To Peggy Woolsey regarding rude students

I know exactly what you mean. I am afraid that it doesn't get better
or easier with time. You just learn to deal with it. Some days I
have a sense of humor about it. Some days I come crashing down really
hard on those kids, some days I am so darned depressed about the abuse I
hardly have the will to breathe. It all needs to be balanced by
focusing on the good kids. I get a real boost from them. It is an
emotional roller coaster. You have to decide whether you like roller
coasters or not.


Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 13:12:48 -0400
From: "Pamela W. Lackey" <>
Subject: discussion ettequette response and thanks for the ideas.

Thanks to all of those who sent me emails supporting me and giving me a
morale boost. I really appreciate it. By the way: the possitive
responses far outwayed those who were offended, about 20 to 1.
To those who sent me ideas for names for our new course: thanks so
much! You are all so generous with your time and ideas. We have not
made up our minds yet. I'll let you know.


Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 12:27:02 -0500
From: Derryl Craddock <craddock>
Subject: Rubric Assessment

Hi all! I am new to this listserv, so first let me introduce myself. My
name is Derryl Craddock and I teach k-5 art in Indianapolis, IN. I am the
art specialist with my own room. I have been teaching for 17 years.

I am looking for a Rubrics Assessment plan or template for art. If you
have a model plan, I sure would love to hear from you.

Looking forwad to hearing from you, Derryl.


Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 13:42:59 EDT
From: Maahmaah
Subject: I need input on my new class!

Hi everyone,
I will be teaching an incredibly short (two 2 hour sessions) class
incorporating papermaking and bookbinding. These are 12 adults who have taken
my papermaking course, so they already have the papermaking fundamentals.
Part of the class will be creating paper for the books, the other on binding
fundamentals. My dilema is which bookbinding methods to teach them. I would
like to cover at least two methods. One a small journal, the second an album
of some sort (expandable). Are there any other methods of binding you can
recommend that may be more suited to this time frame? They don't have to be
traditional--in fact, the more creative the better! Also, any pointers on
making this run smoothly would be appreciated! This is the first time I will
be teaching this class and am working on its set up and presentation.
Teaching new classes are very energizing for me! (Stressful, but

I need input!
- -Lee in Milwaukee, WI


Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 13:11:10 -0400
From: "Eric B. Drowatzky" <chieferic>
Subject: Learning before the Project

As I review posts from various art teachers, I get the impression that
some may be approaching things from a direction that makes their job
more difficult. Often there are posts that ask for ideas for projects
that fit a topic like cartooning or state history or something.

As educators, shouldn't we FIRST be asking ourselves what we want our
students to learn. THEN, once we have decided that, we seek out a
project (or even better, a problem) that students can create (or solve)
in route to learning what we intended for them to learn.

It seems a bad idea to simply provide a project because it fits in a
particular topic and then to leave learning something of value to
chance. A proper discussion with students that leads to the learning of

a particular concept might be just what you need. Once students learn
the concept, maybe they can come up with ways (or projects) that show
what they've learned. After all, aren't some of the best learning
situations the ones where the student solves a problem instead of just
following directions or a demonstration?

Eric Drowatzky


Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:02:00 EDT
Subject: Re: Principals In Furs?

Does anyone build their houses out of wood here??? or wear leather shoes??
or drive a car.??

silly topic


Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:32:29 -0400
From: "menichino" <menichino>
Subject: Re: Principals In Furs?

Hi --
My 2 cents : This isn't a silly topic. Look at all the creative answers
and opinions. If it was a silly topic no one would have responded!!

- ----------
> From: NARJAY
> silly topic


Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 13:59:40 -0600
From: Christine Merriam <>
Subject: Re: cartooning ideas

Several cartoonists banded together and created an interactive visual
and chat site utilizing the *free* Palace chat client software.
The artist I met who created it is Bruce Hanson: bruce

Last Friday I was taken on a virtual tour by the artists and had a
chance to sit and chat with them during their grand opening. I know they
would love to have you take a look, and you may be able to arrange an
online visit with your students and one of the artists.

In order to see this site, you need to go to:
download the free "client software"; register so you can do all sorts of
cool things like make your own avatar (picture to wear)... spend some
time getting comfortable with the program. When I first looked at it, I
just wandered around for a while, and asked lots of questions.

Once you have the software, you want to go to file menu, connect,
hostname: (ya, I know... but the people who made it say, you
cannot forget their location!)

I recommend trying to catch the artists there on weekend evenings.
By the way, you can probably find me between 9-11MST at
Another great site for art and to talk to the artists is:

See you in palacespace!

Christine Merriam
Kayenta Intermediate School


Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 15:08:18 -0500
From: Derryl Craddock <craddock>
Subject: Re: Principals In Furs?

At 03:02 PM 10/1/98 EDT, NARJAY wrote:
>Does anyone build their houses out of wood here??? or wear leather shoes??
>or drive a car.??
>silly topic
A quote I heard and got a laugh:
"If God didn't want us to eat animals, He wouldn't have made them out of
"Reality is the leading cause of stress - for those in touch with it."
-Jane Wagner


Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1998 15:48:32 -0600
From: "Vicki Bean" <>
Subject: Re: Visit with an extrordinary man's art.....

Hello from the bootheel of Missouri. I too would like to know if the
exhibit will be in St. Louis or Memphis.
Where are you located?
Vicki Bean

> I am quite jealous now. How lucky to be near San Fran. Does anyone
> know if "Calder", will be in ST. Louis or Chicago,as these are the 2
> closest
> "Real" cities to me. I hope I haven't missed this show.
> Wishing I were someplace with culture!!!!!
> Sandra
> In Ohio, where there are almost no Mexicans or Asians!
Vicki Bean Gideon School Dist.
Art K-12 P.O. Box 227
Email: Gideon, Missouri 63848
Phone: 573-448-3471/3447
Fax: 573-448-5197


Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 13:52:45 -0700
From: "Kerin Allen" <>
Subject: A&E.A:Inquiry Question response

Good Afternoon, fellow artists and students:
I am commenting on the following inquiry question:
How has your community addressed ecological issues, traditionally and in
recent times?
I have been in Tucson for the last six years. We (the family)
settled in the northwest area because the desert was unusually lush with
more variety of cacti than most of the other residential sites. Most
people up there have 1 + acre parcels that are mostly natural desert
During the first year, we became involved in the Northwest Coalition
for Responsible Development, an organization of members from individual
homeowners association interested in addressing issues that threaten the
natural desert ecosystem. Through our association with these fine
folks, I have learned that our area is actually a forest, yes... an
Ironwood forest, quite unusual and quite necessary as nursery plants to
nurture young Saguaros, barrel cacti and a variety of others. Some of
these Ironwoods are up to 800 year old. As you might guess, we were
properly impressed..... and properly outraged when we saw residential
developers scraping the natural desert down to bare earth to build 4
houses per acre. (Their 'scrapings' were mulched into oblivion.) My
husband became an active member involved in changing local zoning laws
in order to save some part of that precious forest. Not all zoning
laws were changed as the wheels turn slowly but awareness increased a
hundred fold. Thanks to our enlightened press, the developers agreed to
box and transplant (at least) the large trees and Saguaros. Our
researchers found that transplanting the established foliage is an
"iffy" process at best. Developers assured them, the plants would do
just fine. A local high school assigned a team of students to
investigate this promise of transplantation. They monitored four boxed
Saguaros from the time of uprooting to several months after
transplanting. They conducted routine checks on the Saguaros, charting
their findings, finally compiling a report. These students read the
report in session to the Pima County Board of Supervisors. The
developer's transplantation promise was sadly lacking. All but one
Saguaro died and the last one was barely holding its own. The students
expressed great dismay that so little thought was given to preserving at
least some of the natural surrounding. They felt the sacrifice for
profit was too great a price.
Since this incident, the coalition has lost a few scrimmages and won
a few but the greatest victory is public awareness. The coalition
continues to speak to the need for preservation of natural open
spaces. This need will be heard, if not by the adult population, then
by those who will inherit.
So, I can only address this one issue and only from my personal
point of view. I cannot say what is 'traditional' in Tucson but I can
make an educated guess by looking out over the rows and rows of
look-alike house with three inches of open space between them. Who can
say what form of enlightenment must take place for those involved in the
construction/development community to realize that a unique and fragile
environment is right under their noses. Ripe for preservation, not for
the picking!
Kerin Allen


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