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Re: intergration

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Bunki Kramer (bkramer.ca.us)
Tue, 8 Oct 1996 23:23:45 -0700


Hi, Lynn, You wrote, among other posts....

>Well, for goodness sakes - all I want to do is uphold and keep the
>integrity of art education at a high standard and REALLY TEACH ART rather
>than lose the real teaching of art by teaching students that art is a
>salt map or a pumpkin or a Christmas tree - I have been a supervisor and
>state presenter and Board Member of our state association and attending
>NAEA conventions for years and years and years ----- and what I have seen
>and observed so very many times is that people think they are teaching
>art by using patterns and season to motivate students.... this is not
>truly a DBAE approach------------- I also believe and live in a way that
>other subject areas become a part of teaching art WHEN IT IS A NATURAL
>AND REAL CONNECTION - I have fought this fight for most of my teaching
>career and I hate to see new and experienced teachers fall into the
>danger of creating sloppy and shallow programs - all for the sake of
>integration ---of course I integrate many, many, many times - but I truly
>make sure that it is APPROPRIATE for the goal or measure I am teaching
>for art. I hope I am making myself clear......Sorry to step on so many
>toes!!
>Most humbly and respectfully,
>Lynn
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You're comments have made me very angry and I haven't written until now so
that I could cool down before I responded.

You have mentioned that you are an experienced teacher, a supervisor, a
presenter, a state board member and attendee of several conventions.
Unfortunately that does not necessarily make a "good" teacher or one whose
opinion should be validated. Although I understand your opinions, I cannot
agree with them. Any art experience is better than no experience...be it
pumpkins or trees, etc. Those schools which have no formal art teacher must
rely on who is available to teach them and if people like you undermine the
self-confidence of those who try, you will have taken away something from
these very students.

How could you EVER say..."people think they are teaching art by using
patterns and seasons to motivate students. This is truly not a DBAE
approach." Perhaps you need to update your information about DBAE
approaches. Pattern is one of the 7 elements of design. What do you think
kaleidoscope design is other than a study in pattern? It most DEFINITELY
has a place in the artroom!
Are you telling me that Victor Vaserely (father of Pop Art) and M.C. Escher
are not considered artists as well as scientists and mathematicians? Art
intergrates with everything EVERYWHERE and ANYWHERE at ANYTIME. There is
absolutely nothing wrong with intergrating art with math, science, social
studies, etc. in the artroom at ANYTIME!!! I'll strongly defend that with
anyone!!! I truly believe art should not be taught with a "tight-lipped"
approach. It's meant to be beautiful, wonderful, enlightening, engrossing,
spiritual, meaningful, jubilent, worldly, personal, colorful, entertaining,
intergrating and hugged with your very being. It's not meant to be taught
with just one approach!!

Sorry to be so vocal. Guess I need to cool off some more. I just did not
care for your flippent reply to someone who was asking a genuine question
on resources for kaleiscopes. I think we need to "care" for one another in
this world....and who better to ask than art teachers!!!

Bunki Kramer
Los Cerros Middle School
968 Blemer Road
Danville, California 94526
sch.# 510-552-5620
bkramer.ca.us