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jennifer_at_TeacherArtExchange
Date: Thu Oct 15 2009 - 07:16:20 PDT


We have report cards with grades 1-4, 4 exceeding the standards, 3 meeting the standards, 2 working to the standards, 1 below standard.

I report grades in Trimesters. I do not have to give a daily grade, but behavior is one of the areas assessed in the report card.

I assess each project based on a few simple and tangible expectations for each project such as, the project has symmetry, or uses warm colors.

I meet the classes once a week for 45 minutes

I teach in Vermont

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>TEACHERARTEXCHANGE Digest for Wednesday, October 14, 2009.
>
>1. Re: Grading Elementary Art
>2. Re: grading elementary art
>3. Re: budget survey
>4. RE: grading elementary art
>5. Re: Budget survey
>6. Re: grading elementary art
>7. Re: Budget survey
>8. Re: budget survey
>9. Re: grading elementary art
>10. RE: grading elementary art
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>Subject: Re: Grading Elementary Art
>From: "Roshanda Burtscher" <rburtsch@artbyro.com>
>Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 05:58:23 -0400
>X-Message-Number: 1
>
>1. I am required to give a grade to every student, every time they are in my
>class.
>2. I can choose from several options: check, check +, check -, Letter
>grades, Points, 0-4 scoring scale, happy - sad face, etc
>3. As far as I know, I don't have a required number of assessments (first
>year at school).
>4. I see my students once a week for 45 minutes.
>5. I teach in Ohio.
>
>Hope this is helpful!
>Roshanda Burtscher
>
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>Subject: Re: grading elementary art
>From: Gayle Parent <gayleparent@gmail.com>
>Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:14:21 -0700
>X-Message-Number: 2
>
>1) There is no "requirement" for daily, weekly or monthly grades.
>
>2) N/A
>
>3) No
>
>4) Once every three days at one school, every other day at my
>smaller school. This for 1/2 of the year.
>
>5) Arizona
>
>Our new Fine Arts leader is looking at assessment and would like to
>ramp it up. I think that parents and students would look a little
>differently at the fine arts if grades were given, but I am a little
>on the fence about this. I think that the kids that give it their
>all should have their "A", I guess. The kids who goof off (not many)
>would get their usual "D". Personally, I really have a hard time
>deciding if I think a more formal grading structure should exist. I
>definitely try to ignore the additional work it represents for me.
>
>I would love to hear from someone who has experienced both!
>
>
>On Oct 13, 2009, at 6:31 PM, jeryl HOLLINGSWORTH wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> My principal asked me to gather some input for her to present to
>> our deputy superintendent - she wondered if I knew any art
>> teachers? Duh. Anyway, I know this has been discussed before and I
>> could probably search the archives which I tried without much
>> success. So I'm asking if you could take a quick minute to respond
>> to these questions. Currently we give an S (satisfactory) or an N
>> ( not meeting expectations) on report cards for our students -1st
>> grade through 6th. This is supposed to be based on the students
>> participating 80% of the time. Now they want us to still give s or
>> n but we will have to post at least 3 assessments for each grade
>> level for each nine weeks. Our principals think this is unrealistic
>> for what is considered an exploratory class at the elementary
>> level. So here are my questions for any elementary art folks who
>> could respond.
>> 1. Are you required to give grades?
>> 2. If so, what are the grades (ex. A, B, or E, S,)
>> 3. Do you have a required number of assessments for each nine
>> weeks? or a semester?
>> 4. How many times do you see your students? ( we meet once a week
>> for 45 minutes)
>> 5. What state do you teach in?
>> Thanks in advance for the help. I'm frustrated with this whole
>> situation since we spent a long time developing a grading system
>> several years ago within the related arts teacher community in our
>> district and then the new administration changed it all without
>> getting any input from us. Now they want to change it again and at
>> least my principal is trying to give us a voice - so I feel I
>> should get her some data. thanks again
>> side note- I did origami with 4 year olds today- you know you are
>> in trouble when you say, today we are going to make our art project
>> by folding paper and a sweet little one says, what is folding? It
>> actually turned out really well and they were thrilled with their
>> fire dogs!
>> Jeryl in SC
>>
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>Subject: Re: budget survey
>From: Jerry Vilenski <jvilenski@yahoo.com>
>Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 06:49:24 -0700 (PDT)
>X-Message-Number: 3
>
>I would like to add my support to what Jen had to say regarding this issue. We ALL supplement our budgets by seeking and utilizing donated materials. The real issue here, as it is in many school districts across this nation, is the continuing low priority the arts have as part of the education of our children. Visual art teachers are still regarded as an enrichment activity, or as one of my principals stated, "something fun for the kids to get them ready for REAL learning"! Ask any other teacher in virtually any other discipline, and you will rarely find anyone spending their spare time begging and cajoling businesses or individuals for the raw materials they need to teach with.
>
>All of this is continuing to happen in districts all over the place, in spite of research that directly links success in school to visual art experiences. I have stated this before: It is time for art educators to stop apologizing for being art teachers, and start more aggressive advocating for their chosen field. It is beginning to appear that it is easier and less uncomfortable for some of you out there to simply find a way around it by being "more creative" than to confront head-on the obvious marginalizing of what you do for kids every day. If you are dedicated to your chosen profession you will do something about it--that is, unless you believe you aren't all that important either. Remember, it is also easier for an administrator to remind you how lucky you are to even have a job, even though you as an art educator should have the attitude that they are lucky to have you on the faculty!
>
>Jerry
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>Subject: RE: grading elementary art
>From: Heather_Hayes@roundrockisd.org
>Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:22:37 -0500
>X-Message-Number: 4
>
>1. Are you required to give grades? Yes
>
>2. If so, what are the grades (ex. A, B, or E, S,)Ours is a bit
>complicated. K-2 have a # system. 4 = demonstrates abililty ABOVE grade
>level, 3= MASTERY of skill or concept, 2 = exibits skill/comcept w/
>minimal guidance, 1 = needs direct guidance. Obviously, most kids wind up
>with a 2. We've had some issues with parents not understanding the
>system, they want their kid to have a 3 or 4, because they're thinking
>that those translate into Excellent and satisfactory, and a 2 must be
>unsatisfactory. We use the same systems to assess both concepts AND
>participation (kid gets 2 grades).
>3-5, we give numerical grades that instead of translating into A, B, C,
>etc - translate into Excellent, Satisfactory, Needs improvement and
>unsatisfactory. I think the letter and the number are both printed on the
>report card.
>
>3. Do you have a required number of assessments for each nine weeks? or a
>semester? For 3-5, We're required to have at least 2 categories of
>assessment (I do projects and participation) with at least 3 grades in
>each category.
>
>4. How many times do you see your students? Once a week for 50 minutes,
>with an occasional 25 minute extra class thrown in
>
>5. What state do you teach in? TX
>
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>Subject: Re: Budget survey
>From: "Sharon Kawczynski" <sharynn@elknet.net>
>Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:44:05 -0500
>X-Message-Number: 5
>
>Wisconsin
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "jjennifer west" <jenniferjoycewest@yahoo.com>
>To: "TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group"
><teacherartexchange@lists.pub.getty.edu>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 9:40 PM
>Subject: Re: [teacherartexchange] Budget survey
>
>
>Thanks Sharon, Can I ask what state you teach in?
>
>Best,
>
>Jen
>
>--- On Sun, 10/11/09, Sharon Kawczynski <sharynn@elknet.net> wrote:
>
>> From: Sharon Kawczynski <sharynn@elknet.net>
>> Subject: Re: [teacherartexchange] Budget survey
>> To: "TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group"
>> <teacherartexchange@lists.pub.getty.edu>
>> Date: Sunday, October 11, 2009, 5:10 AM
>> I teach about 440 students in grades
>> K-5.
>> My budget has been 2700 for about the last 5
>> years. I used to get extra money every year but it has
>> been at this amount for a while. I have shown my
>> principal how supplies have gone up and remind him that I
>> also take extra groups of kids to work on special projects
>> for gifted and talented, but this is the limit on the
>> budget. I use a lot of recyclables with projects.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "jjennifer west"
>> <jenniferjoycewest@yahoo.com>
>> To: "TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group"
>> <teacherartexchange@lists.pub.getty.edu>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:10 PM
>> Subject: [teacherartexchange] Budget survey
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm sorry that I don't usually participate more actively in
>> these on-line conversations, but I have been an active
>> lurker for over ten years:) (participating sporadically).
>> Over that time I have worked all over the country and most
>> recently over the past several years I have been teaching
>> art in Santa Monica, CA. I love my job, but budget has all
>> of a the Jen West
>> Art Teacher, Santa Monica, CA
>>
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>Subject: Re: grading elementary art
>From: "M. Austin" <whest177@wheatstate.com>
>Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:54:49 -0500
>X-Message-Number: 6
>
>
>
>
>1. Are you required to give grades? Yes
>
> 2. If so, what are the grades (ex. A, B, or E, S,) A,B,C,D,F
>
>
> 3. Do you have a required number of assessments for each nine weeks? No
>
>4. How many times do you see your students? 50 min a week
>
>
>5. What state do you teach in? KS
>
>Note: I give them all A's. Why is Art weighted so much more heavily than the
>other classes? The students have math for 50 minutes a DAY. I see them for
>less than 8 hours total each 9 week period, and a good portion of that is
>dedicated to finding their seats, quieting down, getting out supplies, &
>clean up. There is not a realistic amount of time for me to truely instruct
>and for the students to practice their new knowledge. What do you do when a
>student is absent? If they miss one class period how on earth can they make
>up the time missed? I told my administrator that I didn't believe we should
>mess with "good learning" with assessments. He agrees, so I just give the
>elementary students A's. In the last 10 years I have had 0 office referrals.
>Students are engaged in art while in my classroom. My principal has 2
>daughters in my program, one very talented, the other - well, not so much.
>Yet it is obvious that they are both learning about art. I love not having
>the stress about grading - I do have to give grades at the middle & high
>schools, but even those are for the sake of "playing the game". I appreciate
>the fact that I am supported in my program. Many of my students go on into
>art related careers, so I must be doing something right!
>~Michal
>3-12 Kansas Art Teacher
>HS Digital Communications
>Technology Integration Specialist
>http://www.geocities.com/theartkids
>http://www.usd492.org
>
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>Subject: Re: Budget survey
>From: Denise Pannell <cen_aca_dp@nwoca.org>
>Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 20:03:51 -0400
>X-Message-Number: 7
>
>I teach elementary art in Ohio and see approximately 540 students per year. Each year, $5.00 of the students' book fees is designated as an art fee, so I typically have around $2500-$2800 for "consumables". If I need equipment or tools, it is typically ordered for me separately for another budget. I have never been turned down for something that I tell my principal I NEED to teach for the year (well, no SmartBoard yet, but I am on the list!) Paper is also on another budget- I order the paper for the entire school, but this doesn't come from the art budget.
>
>In addition, our Booster (PTO) club allots each teacher up to $150 per year as long as they help with the school carnival. I also hold family Pottery Nights up to 5 times per year, which brings in an additional $500 or more. Artsonia brings in a little- $250 last year. I almost have enough for that printing press!
>
>So, in all, I believe that I am very fortunate, especially after reading about some of your budgets.
>
>Denise Pannell
>http://mrspicassosartroom.blogspot.com/
>http://www.artsonia.com/schools/school.asp?id=36837
>
>
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>Subject: Re: budget survey
>From: Marcia Beckett <marciadotcom@yahoo.com>
>Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:14:58 -0700 (PDT)
>X-Message-Number: 8
>
>
>I've taught at 3 different schools..
>1. A public middle school in Illinois.. I think I received approximately $2000 for about 350 kids (I think) I taught 6 classes a day on the quarter system, so I rotated through all those kids throughout the year. That budget in my opinion was adequate and I was able to buy a sufficient amount of supplies.
>
>2. A public elementary school in WI.. I can't remember the exact amount but it was probably between $1700 and 2000? That also was a good amount for supplies.. It was a K-4 school and I had about 150 kids (again, I can't remember exact numbers).
>
>3. Finally I am at a private school in WI and our budget is $3000 for K-8, about 180 students. This is a great budget, however it is assumed that the art supplies will occasionally be used for special projects when teachers need them (for example, paint and paper for class play scenery, construction paper for projects, etc.... of course, the classroom teachers get money for supplies, but they will use the art room supplies on occasion).
>
>In all my jobs, I have sent out donation lists to families and gotten great responses for fabric, yarn and other odds and ends. I have used artsonia and earned approximately $300 each year to supplement our supply budget. I will ask for money for special projects or visiting artists through various funds in the school system, or ask the parent organization.
>
>Another thing that I have done at my current school is to add one or two items to the school supply list at the beginning of the year.... so for example, all first graders might bring in 3 glue sticks for general use. I will collect all of them for community use in my classroom. It adds up if every kid brings in a little something. If for some reason some kids don't bring in the supplies, at least you have some collected supplies to start with.
>
>I do agree that some administrators and the general public need to realize that they will get what they pay for. At a previous school I was at they decided to cancel all after school activities because a referendum did not pass. I believe the next time a referendum was up, it was passed. The community realized more money was needed to support the programs they valued. Teachers should not pay for supplies out of their own pocket. I know sometimes they feel it is the only way to provide a quality program, but how will the school and community realize that more money is needed if the teacher is producing student work with supplies they bought themselves? When you are stating your case for budget increases, I would show the prices in a catalog and explain to the admin. that with X amount of money, this is what I can buy, so I will not be able to do clay or painting with the kids.. or whatever.. Make it tangible to them. Good luck!!
>
>Marcia in WI
>
>
>
>
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>Subject: Re: grading elementary art
>From: Woody Duncan <woodyduncan@comcast.net>
>Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:30:14 -0600
>X-Message-Number: 9
>
>
>On Oct 14, 2009, at 4:54 PM, M. Austin wrote:
>
>> 1. Are you required to give grades? Yes
>>
>> Note: I give them all A's.
>
>Bless you Michal,
> Woody
>
>
>> Why is Art weighted so much more heavily than the other classes? The
>> students have math for 50 minutes a DAY. I see them for less than 8
>> hours total each 9 week period, and a good portion of that is
>> dedicated to finding their seats, quieting down, getting out
>> supplies, & clean up. There is not a realistic amount of time for me
>> to truely instruct and for the students to practice their new
>> knowledge. What do you do when a student is absent? If they miss one
>> class period how on earth can they make up the time missed? I told
>> my administrator that I didn't believe we should mess with "good
>> learning" with assessments. He agrees, so I just give the elementary
>> students A's. In the last 10 years I have had 0 office referrals.
>> Students are engaged in art while in my classroom. My principal has
>> 2 daughters in my program, one very talented, the other - well, not
>> so much. Yet it is obvious that they are both learning about art. I
>> love not having the stress about grading - I do have to give grades
>> at the middle & high schools, but even those are for the sake of
>> "playing the game". I appreciate the fact that I am supported in my
>> program. Many of my students go on into art related careers, so I
>> must be doing something right!
>> ~Michal
>> 3-12 Kansas Art Teacher
>> HS Digital Communications
>> Technology Integration Specialist
>> http://www.geocities.com/theartkids
>> http://www.usd492.org
>
>Woody, Retired in Albuquerque
> mailto:woodyduncan@comcast.net
>
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>Subject: RE: grading elementary art
>From: "The Ericksons" <familyerickson@cox.net>
>Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:09:35 -0500
>X-Message-Number: 10
>
>Hi Jeryl,
>1. Yes we call them grades.
>2. E S N U
>3. No requirements on number. I usually have 3 or 4 per 9 wks.
>One of my grades is EAB (Effort, Attitude, Behavior)
>4. Once a week 30 - 45 min. dep. on grade
>5. Oklahoma
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jeryl HOLLINGSWORTH Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 8:31 PM
>To: TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group
>Subject: [teacherartexchange] grading elementary art
>
>Hi All,
> My principal asked me to gather some input for her to present to our
>deputy superintendent - she wondered if I knew any art teachers? Duh.
>Anyway, I know this has been discussed before and I could probably search
>the archives which I tried without much success. So I'm asking if you could
>take a quick minute to respond to these questions. Currently we give an S
>(satisfactory) or an N ( not meeting expectations) on report cards for our
>students -1st grade through 6th. This is supposed to be based on the
>students participating 80% of the time. Now they want us to still give s or
>n but we will have to post at least 3 assessments for each grade level for
>each nine weeks. Our principals think this is unrealistic for what is
>considered an exploratory class at the elementary level. So here are my
>questions for any elementary art folks who could respond.
>1. Are you required to give grades?
>2. If so, what are the grades (ex. A, B, or E, S,)
>3. Do you have a required number of assessments for each nine weeks? or a
>semester?
>4. How many times do you see your students? ( we meet once a week for 45
>minutes)
>5. What state do you teach in?
>Thanks in advance for the help. I'm frustrated with this whole situation
>since we spent a long time developing a grading system several years ago
>within the related arts teacher community in our district and then the new
>administration changed it all without getting any input from us. Now they
>want to change it again and at least my principal is trying to give us a
>voice - so I feel I should get her some data. thanks again
>side note- I did origami with 4 year olds today- you know you are in trouble
>when you say, today we are going to make our art project by folding paper
>and a sweet little one says, what is folding? It actually turned out really
>well and they were thrilled with their fire dogs!
> Jeryl in SC
>
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