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> Hi Mark and Thom...
> Thom wrote:
> I've never seen any of the one- or two-point perspective drawing
> >>exercises that looked anything like real. Kids don't learn to see by
> >>formulae.Thanks for listening.
> >>thom
>
> Mark wrote...
> >And as for the kids learning by formula, your comments echo mine as I
> >expressed during the Monart drawing debate a few weeks ago. I guess I
> >needed a reminder.
> .........................................
>
> Here I go again....disagreeing but for certain reasons! When I was in 5th
> grade, our traveling art teacher came into the room and gave us rulers,
> other tools, to draw 1-pt. perspective and a big demonstration on the
> board. Only two of us "got it" and the other fellow wasn't known for his
> artistic ability. No one else seemed to understand. Because of that
> experience, I don't teach TRUE 1-pt. perspective until the 7th-8th grades
> using rulers. Drawing with true perspective in these grades is much easier!
> Yes, they do understand and yes they can draw in real perspective at this
> age. Collecting 1-pt. room pictures from house, home, architectural
> magazines and "finding the perspective lines in them" is one source. (BTW,
> these are great examples of a photographer's vanishing pt. by "how" the
> pictures are taken. Most often they will be at creative angles like sitting
> on the floor or looking up above.) Showing the simple basics by drawing
> boxes is another. Doing a directed-drawing on the overhead, doing their
> names or words is another, etc. Once they get the basics, they are given
> the task to create a room or area in 1-pt. and "think of the unusual". I've
> had rooms, stores, stables, bird's eye views of bridges, train tunnels,
> locker hallways, indoor swimming meets, haunted rooms, alleyways, tons of
> really neat stuff (their creativity stuns me)! And their "right on" drawing
> is outstanding! There are always a few (2-3) who have trouble at first
> "getting it" (like any project) and it always surprises me who the kids are
> and artistic "talent" isn't necessarily the key. Because of this I'm
> convinced it takes alot of left brain work as well as right brain work to
> do perspective! Kids at this age CAN learn and see by the "formula" (as in
> vanishing pt. and parallel and perpendicular lines). They are really
> excited to learn how to draw as an architect or draftsman would. I wouldn't
> attempt this with my 6th graders. I don't think they are ready but then,
> they always surprise me!
>
> Two-pt. and 3-pt. come into play in my ART 2 course of 7th, 8th graders.
> The 3-pt. blows them away and they love it!
>
> >From another viewpoint (in perspective!).
>
> Bunki Kramer
> Los Cerros Middle School
> 968 Blemer Road
> Danville, California 94526
> sch.# 510-552-5620
> bkramer.ca.us
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