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Re: 35 students!! in one class! yikes!


From: Frances Marze (fmaiu_at_TeacherArtExchange)
Date: Fri Nov 23 2001 - 11:49:24 PST

OK I may hold the record but back in the 60's I had a class of 9th graders
of 45 students! Our desks were nailed to rails and did not move and we had a
sink that looked out of an old rest room in an old gas station in some rural

Now I am so blessed as 24 is my largest group. I almost hate to think of
retirement as conditions are so much better now. I also remember moving from
floor to floor nd out to portable classrooms without water when I taught
elementary art.

Since I taught English for a number of years, I hate to have writing
assignments as punishment, especially when it's difficult to teach students
to like to write.
I use humor a lot and try and have a rapport with my students and have them
help the class in some way (like extra cleanup!) I always think part of the
problem is that some students work so slowly and others work fast and the
difference in the timing results in problems so there always needs to be
Keep your sense of humor. Fran
----- Original Message -----
From: "Judy Decker" <>
To: "ArtsEdNet Talk" <>
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2001 11:15 AM
Subject: 35 students!! in one class! yikes!

> The most I ever had on one class was 34....certainly more than I could
> handle effectively. So today I am thankful (note thankful yes -with an L
> on the end for anyone who read my post thoroughly yesterday) my largest
> class this year is 24 students.
> What has been most helpful for me is recording discipline infractions
> away -- but not necessarily making it a "bad thing". I have a "Book for
> Naughty Boys and Girls" and even write my own name in it from time to
> time --- I suppose the best time was when a student came up and wrote my
> name in when I said "oh crap" (While trying to help a student on a ceramic
> project -- I knocked a piece off -- easily fixed it though). My
> record may be found at:
> If interested - I will send you the Word file.
> Using this "Behavior Contract" has also been very helpful:
> I can not take full credit for the contract -- a list member sent it to me
> and I revised it. I have used writing assignments since subbing days
> at a local school. I do not make students copy it word for word the first
> time -- I tell them to read and then write in their own words --I have
> received some beautiful apologies back from students (kind of touch my
> heart). (ditto - I will send Word file)
> Rewards are also important.... Whole class rewards and individual
> (punishing a whole class is a different story -- fortunately, I haven't
> to do that). Gone are the days when kids will behave just because they are
> supposed to -- just because it is the right thing to do....This past
> Monday, all of my students who earned ten million dollars (giggle),
> received pizza for lunch (at my expense -- they could choose a gel pen
> instead if they wished). I think I spent a total of $80.00 --- I still
> out ahead though -- Think of all the $$$ I have save on my own kid
> (tee-hee --- he makes himself earn good grades --straight 4.0 since first
> grade....and was satisfied with a quarter from the tooth fairy -- I am one
> lucky mom!)
> At last -- I have put "Mona Bucks" online --- she/he (smile) was a "hot"
> item over the summer:
> Grab them while you can ---grab a sandwich and a coke first -- huge
file --
> cause once I am out of server space, I will remove them. I used Duchamp's
> Mona since we do not have any women on $$$ in our culture (only coins):
> All of the files above are linked from:
> And on more for Jennie -- Hopefully, they will see the "error of their
> ways" in this and break the class into two sections in upcoming
> But -- as we have often seen, logic is not a trait of some administrators
> (giggle) --- but on the other hand having two of me in class was always
> nice for discipline.... (I have had two student teachers over the years).
> Funny students (even the ornery ones) were begging for two of
> this past trimester -- it was so sweet.
> Fabulous Friday!
> Judy
> P.S. Today I am finally calling for an eye appointment -- I guess I do
> help catching typos.
> ---