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drawing and risk taking

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Rdunkelart_at_TeacherArtExchange
Date: Sun Nov 05 2000 - 07:57:03 PST


In a message dated 11/5/00 6:19:23 AM Central Standard Time,
lseiler@ez-net.com writes:

<< Its a scary venture. One...to draw from a live model. Two, to be honest
at
their age, when appearance and finding acceptance is everything...to
discover and not cover their imperfections. Three...the contemplative
prospective of peering into their own soul thru the window of their eyes. >>

Larry and all - the comments made on drawing with kids was very insightful
and well said. Because of constant problems with my fifth grade boys I asked
our school counselor to observe my three day rotation of those classes. We
were drawing
from a model - the person that sits near or across from them (mirrors would
be broken or stolen) I said that the portrait did not have to look exactly
like that person
but to look human with the right proportion and feature placement. We had
practiced
drawing each feature and the placement of each correctly before this lesson.
So they began drawing using several hardnesses of pencils. Some were so off
task
giggling, goofing and causing disturbances - more than usual. The serious
people
did some very fine rendering of the human face and handled the shading of the
face very well. When talking with the counselor later regarding her
observations she remarked that perhaps because this age is so ill confident
and self concious that
drawing the face and having someone study theirs might be too personal and
even threatening and those immature ones cannot handle it.
So I am wondering 1, if this might be true 2. and if drawing from their
own photograph would be less threatening or even more interesting to do?

Also has anyone out there had good luck drawing with pastels with fifth
graders?
Alot again created total messes of very simple trees - blended when asked to
keep
colors fresh and overlap rather than blend. The same immature ones even put
their
whole hands in and rubbed around. they then were given crayons to finish - a
great dissapointment to me. The same ones that succeeded above succeeded
with this
project. Like I am teaching several ages of children in one grade!

So another question arises - would it be right to anticipate the immaturity
of certain
people and give them a younger version of the lesson - or is that also asking
for
certain trouble. Some days I wish I was a PE teacher and could make these
clowns run the track till they dropped and didn;t have breath to cause
anymore
trouble. Sigh of frustration. Just kidding.

Thanks for any input. Roberta Dunkel