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Re: RE: Re: Visual Culture & Students


From: Susan M Kipp (smkipp_at_TeacherArtExchange)
Date: Mon May 06 2002 - 15:52:54 PDT

Hi Henry, A little background: Last year was the 1st time since 1993 that
 my school had an art program. When I came on board 5 years ago, I found
that only a couple of the teachers were doing a bit of art with their kids
 and had had DBAE training in the late 80's (like I'd had). I taught the
 bilingual kinders for 2 years and regular 2nd for 1 year before I became
the visual arts teacher last year. I still find DBAE very useful. But after
immersing myself in this VCAE dialogue, I realize that I've been doing
that, too. I don't think that they necessarily have to be seen as
 incompatible. But then, I'm not a purist anything.
I, too, find my 1st, 2nd and 3rd graders doing better portraits than some
of my 4th and all of my 5th graders. Since I had many of the 4th graders
 either as kinders or 2nd graders, I'm thinking there's something to
 teaching conventions. I also think there may something Piagetian about kids
able to "get it" easier at an earlier developmental stage, or at least
before they reach the tweener-self-conscious-I-don't-risk-anybody-laughing-
 at-me stage.

As to going against the grain of originality, I believe that they have to
 know the "rules" before they can break them.

 BTW, que' significa tortolita?
 Susan In OR

> First and Second graders are doing better
> > faces than the 4th and 5th graders over all now. >
> > Building that liberty is a very important goal and one that wasn't
> > addressed in my art ed program. Kids grow initially it seems by moving
> > from new convention to new convention. I does seem to go against the
> > grain of original art to teach that way tho. You have to balance one
> > against the other. Having a decent convention will allow the transition
> > to originality to flow more smoothly I think. We'll see.
> >
> > cheers
> > -henry