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RE: artsednet digest: May 21, 2000
From: Fraher, Juli (JULIE.us)
Date: Mon May 22 2000 - 13:36:28 PDT
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Just 2 things:
1. Instead of pins for your rainsticks, I saw an episode of Donna's Day on
PBS and she took two long identical pieces of cardboard less than the
diameter of the tube, about the same length as the tube, and ran a bead of
glue down the center. After it was dry, she cross cut it every 1/2 inch or
so almost to the center and then bent each flap of the center in a different
direction. She inserted it down the middle of the tube. This allowed the
rice or beans to fall in different directions which is what you want. Hope I
made this clear enough to understand. I'm a visual person!!
2. I've taught calligraphy forever and a real motivator for students and
Roman lettering is to do Latin phrases. The kids really go for this
"foreign" language. I found some contemporary Latin phrases by searching on
the web.If I'm reading this right the site is
http://www.cowtown.net/humor/153.html They had some cute ones like "Vescere
bracis meis" loosely translated to "Bite my shorts", etc.
Hope this helps!
Juli in Illinois
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Subject: artsednet digest: May 21, 2000
ArtsEdNet Talk Digest for Sunday, May 21, 2000.
1. Re: taking a book from an office.......
2. Re: foreign travel
3. Re: More Italy stuff
4. Re: gifted kids problems--long post
5. spring flowers Woody
6. Re: Chair constuction- thinking outside the box
7. Re: Chair constuction- thinking outside the box
8. Re: Italy
9. Re: gifted kids problems
10. printing press
11. anagrams for fun
12. Re: printing press
13. Re: Egg dying Kits
14. Re: Pack-ratting
15. Artsednet contact from Paris?
16. Re: Rainsticks
17. Re: Rainsticks
18. Re: Rainsticks
19. Re: Rainsticks
20. Re: Egg dying Kits
21. Re: Rainsticks
22. Re: pantyhose sculpture (FWD from Janice)
23. calligraphy ideas?
24. Grounds for Sculpture
25. Gelato lovers...
26. Re: calligraphy ideas?
27. Re: Rainsticks
28. Re:"Packus Ratus Americanus"
29. Re: Rainsticks
30. Re: "Packus Ratus Americanus"
31. principals
32. Re: principals
33. Re: RE: art show incident
34. FOr Terri the pppppackrat
35. Re: Pack-ratting
36. Anna and the PRincipal
37. Re: Pack-ratting
38. glazes for elementary school
39. Judy from SAX
40. Re: Italy
41. Remember my Easter Greeting?--It does Work!
42. Re: calligraphy ideas?
43. Re: calligraphy ideas?
44. Re: calligraphy ideas?
45. Re: calligraphy ideas?
46. Re: Re: Rainsticks
47. Re: calligraphy ideas?
48. Re: Grounds for Sculpture
49. Re: calligraphy ideas?
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Subject: Re: taking a book from an office.......
From: Lori Graham <graham24>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 01:40:28 -0700
X-Message-Number: 1
Nope! Not without asking to come into my space. It was unacceptable, no
matter how "flattered" you think it might appear. Would you be
flattered if she walked into your home and took something?
When does the accountability for rude behavior become acceptable? It
seems the boundaries are becoming less clear to some students because no
one has taught them about respect for another's privacy, space, or
belongings.
> aren't you even a little bit flattered that the student thought it was
> important enough to want to use it??
>
> ---
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Subject: Re: foreign travel
From: Batmom44
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 08:50:51 EDT
X-Message-Number: 2
I did not tell my students that all beggars were gypsies. The rooster combed
beggars sitting outside Pere la Chaise or the other individuals sitting in
other areas were not described as gypies because they weren't. My French
frie
nds warned us of the gypsies in the tourist areas. They looked like gypsies,
they traveled in caravans like gypsies, and they camped wherever they
pleased
a right only accorded, in France, to the gypsies. The only ones who got in
our faces and were very persistent were the gypsies. They swarm the more
prominent tourist areas. They work in teams. And they are not poor.They
"camp" in Airstreams pulled by Mercedes. The clothing they wear is very
expensive. They live the lifestyle they live because they choose to. They
are
not the only people being discriminated against and murdered in the Eastern
European countries. They are not the only individuals slaughtered in the
holocaust. They are not the only persons begging on the streets of Europe.
But, they are by far, in my experience, the most aggressive, persistent and
beligerent.
I realize that the Romany are a much maligned and ancient group of people.
But they do live a lifestyle that separates them from the rest of society
wherever they are. And if you are traveling in Europe and don't believe they
and other individuals who make their living on the other side of the law,
will pick your pocket, then you may as well velcro your money to your shirt.
Reatha
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Subject: Re: More Italy stuff
From: Batmom44
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 08:57:07 EDT
X-Message-Number: 3
In a message dated 5/20/00 2:15:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
kimberly
writes:
<< I would like to give you a student's viewpoint. In high school I went to
Greece one year and Scotland and England another with the dance team. If
you
can, interview any potential chaperones and make sure they aren't likely to
teach your students the exact opposite of what you want them to learn by
traveling. In Greece they insisted we dress in shorts to visit a cathedral
and got mad when we were not allowed inside, complained that the Greeks did
not speak English like civilized people, and one told the captain of our
cruise ship that he was violating the first amendment by broadcasting the
Orthodox Easter Mass over the sound system (they are required to by Greek
law). I was mortified, and loved it when the captain told the bigot to go
home. In England and Scotland one chaperone kept trying to get me to buy
stuff I hated (high fashion dresses, wool sweaters I'm so allergic to wool
I
can't wear a wool skirt or pants without sneezing and itching). They
wouldn't let us eat fish and chips, because they thought they were
unsanitary. I developed an abiding hatred of McDonalds food after a week of
McDonalds for lunch every day. Our teacher was disgusted with their
behavior, but who chaperoned was not her decision. The booster club
president chose them - parents with travel experience, or business
experience abroad were never chosen. It was always her best pals, and we
had
to go on their fantasy shopping trips. We did not go to one museum in
London!
>>
Amen, amen, amen. I once had a co-chaperone not chosen by me who thought it
was terrible that the children had to eat French food. She even made
comments
when our French parent guides told us about things that they thought were
interesting. She would say things like, "Oh, I am SO glad they told us
that."
This person who taught social studies also wanted to know what was so
important about Fountainbleu (sp). She was such a WONDERFUL example for the
students.
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Subject: Re: gifted kids problems--long post
From: San D Hasselman <kprs>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 09:32:27 -0400
X-Message-Number: 4
Your problem reminds me of a 8th grade orientation story. I teach gifted
kids
and on orientation evening parents meet the teachers and learn about the
program. Gifted kids can choose to be in a separate program or go through
the
art program (8 classes). One parent came up with his kid and said "Rich,
here,
doesn't need to take the 8 classes because he is the best art student you
will
ever had, he can skip right into the advanced art course next year". I said
"how
nice, do you mind if I ask Rich a few questions?" Dad of course said, "go
ahead,
he'll answer them all". So I looked Rich (who is now a freelance
illustrationist,
graduate from Pratt) and said "which colors advance and which colors
recede?"
When he couldn't answer that, I asked "generally speaking, and using the
human
'head' as a measuring tool, how many heads tall is the human body?" Again,
blank
stare. Then I stared right at his old man and said...."all of my freshmen
can
answer those questions, and that is JUST the beginning." Needless to say,
gifted
Rich took all 8 art courses, and we had a good experience. Except he
refused to
take any advice when creating his portfolio, so I looked at him on his way
to his
interview and said "Rich, they will laugh at you at Cooper Union", and guess
what, they did...he came back with his tail between his legs, reworked his
portfolio using my recommendations, and got into Pratt no problem.(portfolio
problem--he insisted on putting in work from his imagination--colleges want
observational work) (Rich's air of superiority was a gift his father
bestowed on
him) Rich was also in my gifted class. Failure is a lesson that gifted
students
don't have experience in, generally being smarter than their peers, parents
and
grandparents.. I try to teach them to fail and survive! And they do, and we
laugh, and we work. Mind you, my program is NOT based on failure--I thought
I
would add that because I can just see the emails NOW ;-)
Only 17 more days...I think I can, I think I can, I think I can,
San D
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Subject: spring flowers Woody
From: Rdunkelart
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 09:37:31 EDT
X-Message-Number: 5
Thanks for sharing pics of your spring flowers - they are so beautiful!
Roberta
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Subject: Re: Chair constuction- thinking outside the box
From: John & Sandra Barrick <astroboy>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 09:36:09 -0400
X-Message-Number: 6
Gumart1 wrote:
>
> Sandra-
> You have my curiosity peaked. What do you mean by the accordian method
for
> building a chair?
>
> Thank you
> -Ruth in IL
Of building a bridge/structure. You have two students come up and
try to figure out how to make 3 pieces of poster board strong enough
to hold up one of them when put between two chairs. They won't be
able to do it. Then you pull out another middle poster board which
is folded accordion style and sandwich it between the other and then
try again. ( I have a 9 year old who was 50 lb.). They will be able
to sit on it without falling through. try at home first. Anyway, I'm
use to the chair assembly with newspaper also. Never tried it with
paper bags. I think I would opt for a few materials, depending on
how old these kids are- frustration might set in not allowing them
to keep interest in this subject.I suppose assembly without use is
fine though.
Sandra
astroboy
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Subject: Re: Chair constuction- thinking outside the box
From: John & Sandra Barrick <astroboy>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 09:42:01 -0400
X-Message-Number: 7
Sorry i meant for the previous post to be sent privately.
Sandra
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Subject: Re: Italy
From: J Baas <wjbaas>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 08:48:22 -0600
X-Message-Number: 8
>
Hey someone that knows what Gelato is
Gave me a big smile today!
Been there 2x with students though not in charge. It's awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A
paradise for artists!
Enjoy!
Gelato
>
> just as well preserved. We also stopped at Assisi and got to go through
the
> cathedral pre-earthquake. I don't know if there's much left now. Have a
> wonderful time and have some gelato for me. (I am soooooo jealous.)
>
> paulette
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Subject: Re: gifted kids problems
From: Rdunkelart
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 10:06:46 EDT
X-Message-Number: 9
In a message dated 5/21/00 8:34:47 AM Central Daylight Time,
kprs writes:
<< I try to teach them to fail and survive! And they do, and we
laugh, and we work. >>
San D
Yes learning that you are not perfect is the key. I tell my kids to make
art
out of
mistakes - rarely give out extra paper for "messups" as they call them. I
tell them
create art out of that mistake and make suggestions for a possibility. I
tell them they are the artist and that there are gazillions ways of making
art. Of course they have
to follow the basics of the lesson. But as you say Rich received his
superiority gift
from his Dad - my gifted student has been told too many times that he is
"smart" by his also too smart mother - and so he can be a real pain - he
doesn't produce in his gifted class either. Roberta
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Subject: printing press
From: "croberts" <croberts>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 10:07:31 -0400
X-Message-Number: 10
We need to purchase a printing press, but it's been AGES since I've used
one.
Can only spend less than $500.
What do you suggest would be the easiest for us to use? Would like to be
able to print at least 10 to 12 inches wide.
Also...what other equipment would I need to purchase to go with this?
Carolyn Roberts
Kinston High School
Kinston NC 28501
croberts
http://cyber.lenoir.k12.nc.us/khs/departments/roberts.html (Computer Art
Lessons)
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Subject: anagrams for fun
From: Rdunkelart
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 10:24:00 EDT
X-Message-Number: 11
Non art fun for summer break sent to me by a friend: Roberta
The following anagrams are exceptionally clever. Someone out there either
has way too much time or is deadly at scrabble.
Dormitory = Dirty Room
Desperation = A Rope End's It
Slot Machines = Cash Lost In 'em
Mother-in-law = Woman Hitler
Snooze Alarms = Alas! No More Zs
Eleven plus two = Twelve plus one
Contradiction = Accord not in it
This one's truly amazing -----
"To be or not to be; That is the question, whether 'tis nobler in the mind
to suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune"
...and the anagram:
In one of the Bard's best thought of tragedies, our insistent hero, Hamlet,
queries on two fronts about how life turns rotten.
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Subject: Re: printing press
From: Bicyclken
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 11:56:48 EDT
X-Message-Number: 12
Look in the Dick Blick catalog and get thier etching press. Very good
results and reasonable in price. Don't fortget to get a push blanket.
Ken Schwab
San Jose CA
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Subject: Re: Egg dying Kits
From: Gail1611
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 12:01:23 EDT
X-Message-Number: 13
I have found a neat way to dye eggs. You put down a piece of clear plastic
scaran wrap. On top of that, you cut up pieces of tissue paper (that bleeds
well), spray a little water on tissue ,add egg to center and then pick up
plastic wrap plus tissue and curl around egg so it's cover by tissue and
then
plastic(to keep hands clean). Hold that way for 30 seconds or more, open,
peel away tissue and leave to dry in egg carton. Looks like a tie dye egg.
Kids love it!!! Gail
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Subject: Re: Pack-ratting
From: NMoore9017
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 12:15:15 EDT
X-Message-Number: 14
Pat,
Yes, yes, yes!! I too cannot bear to part with anything. There are
things in my storage room at school that I'm sure go back 20-25 years. Yet,
I say to myself, if I throw it out - the day might come when I would surely
be sorry that I got rid of it. And I do prove myself right occasionally
when
I finally use something that has been stored for years. I never say no to
freebies from the principal, PTO, etc. And my desk is piled high with
hummocks. I think the desk calendar is still on March. The last time I
changed it was from December to March.
Nina
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Subject: Artsednet contact from Paris?
From: Stephanie Billingsley <teekart>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 12:25:42 -0400
X-Message-Number: 15
I second the request to post info. I went to Paris last summer-saw the
Louvre and Versailles but did not make it to Giverny. It is in my "life
plan". So please do post online so that we can all learn. sb
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Subject: Re: Rainsticks
From: NMoore9017
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 12:28:53 EDT
X-Message-Number: 16
Pam,
Thanks for the great idea. I won't have time to do it in clay since
this
will be for a two week Summer Enrichment class. Was thinking about using
paper towel rolls, paper mache and some type of beans.
Nina
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Subject: Re: Rainsticks
From: NMoore9017
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 12:31:42 EDT
X-Message-Number: 17
Donna,
Thanks for the great idea. Just am not sure how I can get 60+ of those
heavy tubes by June 26th. Is it worth doing using paper towel rolls?
Nina
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Subject: Re: Rainsticks
From: vranck
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 10:11:33 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 18
yes, paper towel rolls work very well, but i prefer wrapping paper rolls. i
dont know what else they told you to use for the thorns, but i use large
paper clips unfolded. I get excellent results.
vicki
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Subject: Re: Rainsticks
From: vranck
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 10:12:42 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 19
nina, also, i use a combination of rice and beans, pretty sound.
vicki
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Subject: Re: Egg dying Kits
From: John & Sandra Barrick <astroboy>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 13:34:00 -0400
X-Message-Number: 20
Gail1611 wrote:
>
> I have found a neat way to dye eggs. You put down a piece of clear plastic
> scaran wrap. On top of that, you cut up pieces of tissue paper (that
bleeds
> well), spray a little water on tissue ,add egg to center and then pick up
> plastic wrap plus tissue and curl around egg so it's cover by tissue and
then
> plastic(to keep hands clean). Hold that way for 30 seconds or more, open,
> peel away tissue and leave to dry in egg carton. Looks like a tie dye egg.
> Kids love it!!! Gail
Gail I did this last year, having done it successfully for years-
but when we pulled off the tissue to our surprise there was nothing.
Walah- we had non bleeding tissue- AAAAHHHH!
Make sure you use the (bloody)bleeding kind. I had mixed some of my
old tissue in with the new, my director thought improved tissue.
Sandra
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Subject: Re: Rainsticks
From: John & Sandra Barrick <astroboy>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 13:35:52 -0400
X-Message-Number: 21
NMoore9017 wrote:
> Donna,
> Thanks for the great idea. Just am not sure how I can get 60+ of
those
> heavy tubes by June 26th. Is it worth doing using paper towel rolls?
> Nina
We used pringle cans- make a plea now for contributions.
Sandra
astroboy
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Subject: Re: pantyhose sculpture (FWD from Janice)
From: NMoore9017
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 13:38:32 EDT
X-Message-Number: 22
Janice,
Do you think we could paint a coat of gesso in the place of the white
paint over the dried paper mache? I seem to have more gesso than white
paint
left at the end of this school year. My Art Club is meeting Wednesday the
24th. Thanks again.
Nina
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Subject: calligraphy ideas?
From: "Litesal" <litesal>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 14:19:45 -0400
X-Message-Number: 23
Dear Colleagues,
I am teaching a calligraphy class this summer (soon, June!) to 4, 5, and 6th
graders. I will have them for three hours a day, three days a week for
three weeks. So far, I plan to introduce them to the major alphabets
(Roman, Uncial, Blackletter, Italic, and Book hand). With these, I plan to
have them letter a quote, a poem, an invitation, a greeting card, a business
card, an announcement, a poster, a certificate and an award. I am getting a
bunch of quotes together for them to choose from, but I'd like some ideas on
how to approach the poem. I'd also like to have them working on other
projects between practicing and tedious line measuring. I thought we could
marbelize paper, make paper, do Chinese calligraphy, make paste paper (would
it be good to do calligraphy on), and make books. In addition, I'd like to
teach them to letter their names in Egyptian heiroglphics and Mayan glyphs.
Any ideas, thoughts, tips or websites to help me in this endeavor would be
greatly appreciated.
Sincerely, Leah
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Subject: Grounds for Sculpture
From: Patricia Knott <pknott>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 14:40:51 -0400
X-Message-Number: 24
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A couple of weeks ago I posted a message inviting those of you in the
Philadelphia area to join me at the Grounds for Sculpture in Trenton, NJ on
Saturday June 17. I'm planning on it. Although I have to go back to school
on the 19th, the 16th will be the last day I see children in the building
and I can't wait to see them go. (Not only my seniors, but ALL of them have
"bagged" it this marking period. And I want out as much as they do. Some
time I will vent about our screwy grading system that allows a student to
fail two markings periods but if he/she passes the final it's a passing
grade for the course. )
I have amassed several of my art teacher friends from around here to go with
me on the 17th. If some of you show up it will almost be a convention.
Let me say again what an incredible place this is. Even if you don't like
the art the gardens will amaze you.
Meet at the Museum Building (Info center) at 11:00 A.M. Somehow I think we
will recognize each other.
I'm sure Red Grooms will be a great end of the year experience.
Hope to see some of you there.
Patty
If you need directions:
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Subject: Gelato lovers...
From: "Christy Kane" <claygoddess31>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 15:05:19 EDT
X-Message-Number: 25
To those of you fondly remembering real gelato,
if you are ever in western PA, in a little town called
Kittanning(ki-tan'-ing) there's a new icecream parlor called the Mulberry
St. Creamery. They make heavenly gelato as well as other frozen goodies! The
family is from Italy, so I am assuming they know what they are doing!:)
Christy
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Subject: Re: calligraphy ideas?
From: gregjuli
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 14:14:08 -0500
X-Message-Number: 26
How about an Old English letter and illuminate it. I've had kids create
borders
and patterns from the basic strokes ( it puts a new twist to the practice of
strokes) and then do an Old English in the center of the calligraphed paper.
alos , I ve seen calligraphy used inside the shape of the word being done,
for
example- calligraphy the word apple many times inside the outline of an
apple.
MaryB
Litesal wrote:
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> I am teaching a calligraphy class this summer (soon, June!) to 4, 5, and
6th
> graders. I will have them for three hours a day, three days a week for
> three weeks. So far, I plan to introduce them to the major alphabets
> (Roman, Uncial, Blackletter, Italic, and Book hand).
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Subject: Re: Rainsticks
From: "The Austin's" <whest177>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 15:19:56 -0500
X-Message-Number: 27
I have always done them with paper towel rolls, with the "cool" tubes such
as wrapping paper rolls, heavy, etc. being optional for those who had them.
That way, if the student really wants to do theirs differently the option is
there, but I don't have to deal with coming up with supplies. I must say I'm
excited about trying them with clay next year. Cool idea! How many little
"peg things" do they attach inside?
Michal
> Thanks for the great idea. Just am not sure how I can get 60+ of
those
> heavy tubes by June 26th. Is it worth doing using paper towel rolls?
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Subject: Re:"Packus Ratus Americanus"
From: Teri Brudnak <tbrudnak>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 13:31:02 +0000
X-Message-Number: 28
I confess..I am a professional pack rat (and that's a good thing for my
art classes). We are at the end of a thematic unit on animals in the
beginning classes and finishing with a wire animal scupture. In addition
to the 16-14 gau. mild steel wire I gave students, I have a huge bundle
of phone wire begged from a friend who repairs pay phones.
We have to cut the plastic casing off (which I do) to get to the bundles
of multicolor strands but the work is worth it. We have added colored
beads as well as the colored wire and students will paint the sculptures
(with a brush and acrylic paint) a color that reflects the mood of the
animal they wish to express.
Our artist example was Deborah Butterfield. Students loved her horse
sculptures and we talked about how they express her love of the animals
and how she sees them.
Its a good thing my husband is so patient with my junk collecting and we
have a big garage!!!
Teri Brudnak
Corona del Mar High School
Newport Beach, CA
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Subject: Re: Rainsticks
From: Rdunkelart
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:30:04 EDT
X-Message-Number: 29
In a message dated 5/21/00 12:12:38 PM Central Daylight Time,
vranck writes:
<< what else they told you to use for the thorns, >>
For the younger kids I poked holes in the sides with a pottery needle and
then
they stuck toothpicks into the holes. Sometimes they had to cover their
thumb with a paper towel so that the toothpick wouldn;t hurt their skin.
Then pour in rice before capping it off. Roberta
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Subject: Re: "Packus Ratus Americanus"
From: Rdunkelart
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:47:01 EDT
X-Message-Number: 30
"packus ratus americanus"
I confess..I am a professional pack rat (and that's a good thing for my
art classes) Teri Brudnak
This is the creature that creates all those hummocks. Roberta
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Subject: principals
From: KHeifetz
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 17:58:42 EDT
X-Message-Number: 31
After a lengthy discussion with some of my colleagues over what they thought
made principals supportive of their art programs .......we decided it was
how
they interacted with the art teacher and the students by giving them
encouragement and acknowledgement......do any of you agree with this...how
does your principal support your art program? anna
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Subject: Re: principals
From: San D Hasselman <kprs>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 18:08:12 -0400
X-Message-Number: 32
My principal supports the art program by contuously praising the students in
the
program when walking in the door, by making me an integral part of the
heirachy
of the school by insisting that I am on the important committees and making
no
major policy decisions without asking my opinion, by allowing my colleague
and I
to try anything and do most anything, by trusting us. For example, this
year our
school wide objective will be an art objective accomplished through the
history
department. He allows us to take field trips, and will and has supported us
when
possible at administrative meetings. In all truth he has supported us over
our
supervisor (who is a Foreign Language teacher). Probably the key is that
our
principal has a masters degree in art history, and collects antiques. When
he
taught, he was a history teacher.
San D
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Subject: Re: RE: art show incident
From: Alasann1
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 18:13:36 EDT
X-Message-Number: 33
If you let that lady take things from your desk, she is reinforced for
stealing. Yes, stealing. She knew it was a teacher's desk- kids desk's don't
look like that. But it would have been wrong to take it from any desk for
that matter. I feel dismayed that an adult has been given the impression
that
it is OK just because they are an older adult.
Perhaps suggesting where these things have been purchased and asking for
them
back would have been easier.
Perhaps pointing out that you didn't have enough for everyone to take them.
Many kids were looking at you to be a leader then.
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Subject: FOr Terri the pppppackrat
From: Alasann1
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 18:29:09 EDT
X-Message-Number: 34
I have used the phone wire for several years. The color element as well as
the flexibility it provides fro young hands is great. You can't beat the
price either. So cool to hear of someone recycling like me with this really
great material. Thanks for sharing.
Alice Noel
Artist in Resident, Kentucky Arts Council
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Subject: Re: Pack-ratting
From: "L. P. Skeen" <lpskeen@living-tree.net>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 18:31:55 -0400
X-Message-Number: 35
OMG I love this thread. I am not teaching art at the moment, but still am a
packrat. Unfortunately, my partner is NOT a packrat, or rather, what she
views as "pack-rattable" and what I view as "pack-rattable" are entirely
different.
I make hummocks all over the place. If you say to me, "Where is the lesson
plan that Sandra sent you?", I can tell you which hummock it's in.
Eventually the hummocks get on my nerves and I "de-hum" - which usually ends
up with about 25% of the hummock in the recycle bin, then the rest is packed
away....somewhere.
Our closets are full. The office is full. The garage, AKA my studio, is
full. The storage room is full. My partner is threatening to throw it all
away!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAck!
L
----- Original Message -----
From: <NMoore9017>
To: ArtsEdNet Talk <artsednet>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2000 12:15 PM
Subject: Re: Pack-ratting
> Pat,
> Yes, yes, yes!! I too cannot bear to part with anything. There are
> things in my storage room at school that I'm sure go back 20-25 years.
Yet,
> I say to myself, if I throw it out - the day might come when I would
surely
> be sorry that I got rid of it. And I do prove myself right occasionally
when
> I finally use something that has been stored for years. I never say no to
> freebies from the principal, PTO, etc. And my desk is piled high with
> hummocks. I think the desk calendar is still on March. The last time I
> changed it was from December to March.
>
> Nina
>
> ---
>
>
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Subject: Anna and the PRincipal
From: Alasann1
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 18:33:26 EDT
X-Message-Number: 36
Anna- I have the best.
My principal goes to the PTA board meetings and bats for me. She begs for
money to support my program-which is an Artist in Residence Program.
She makes sure that I have materials to work with. She also makes me
accountable to those that fund me.
She makes sure I am shared with a reasonable number of students. Our school
is too crowded and will be for one more year until a new school is
completed.
Thus, I have lost the art room. She makes that as bearable as possible by
giving me time between classes to get from one place to another and maybe
even use the potty in between if I have to.
Simple pleasures that go a long way. Her name is Mary Evans and she is at
Cumberland Trace Elementary and we have worked together for 5 years. This is
in Bowling Green Ky.
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Subject: Re: Pack-ratting
From: "croberts" <croberts>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 18:53:24 -0400
X-Message-Number: 37
I'm a terrific pack-rat...I save everything too....good thing I'm not
married to one...we'd have no place to "live"....hee hee
On Friday morning, I quickly had to find something on my "desk" that was in
one of the hummocks...and I forgot which hummock it was in...and now I have
NO hummocks...everything is all spread out.
Now, tomorrow morning, I've got to straighten up all my hummocks before I
can begin classes...tomorrow's the last day for classes for me...Tuesday I'm
going on a field trip and taking 4 students...leaving the rest of them with
a sub...joy, joy...and then exams begin....but I'm going to miss every one
of my students. They've been so much fun this year...my first year at high
school...that is after YEARS at middle school. Can't believe I waited so
long to change over....
Carolyn
Carolyn Roberts
Kinston High School
Kinston NC 28501
croberts
http://cyber.lenoir.k12.nc.us/khs/departments/roberts.html (Computer Art
Lessons)
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Subject: glazes for elementary school
From: "christine kotarsky" <ernst85>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:08:00 PDT
X-Message-Number: 38
I'd like to order some glazes for next year and I was wondering what the
most economical and efficient way would be. I'm not very familar with
glazes. Should I just get the underglaze and paint right on to the
greenware? buut how does the firing work? Would we have to put on a clear
glaze and fire again? This is elementary level and time is a factor. Can
someone give me a brefing on glazes? Thank you, Glazeless in S.C.
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Subject: Judy from SAX
From: Jeanalice2
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 19:11:59 EDT
X-Message-Number: 39
Judy please contact me, I have a couple questions about ordering art
supplies
for our six elementary schools. Thanks Jean in Michigan
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Subject: Re: Italy
From: "Felsecker" <felsecker>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 19:31:58 -0500
X-Message-Number: 40
Hi Everyone!
I just want to thank everyone who contributed to my line of questions about
"fanny pacs" versus "money belts" and any other threads that developed from
that! This will be my first trip as a leader and I feel my group is
fantastic, yet I do have some "fluttering" in my tummy about how the trip
will go. But, all of you have helped by giving me some invaluable tips that
will help me enormously! Whenever I have a question, I know I can count on
this group to come up with great suggestions! You guys are priceless!!
Barb F.
----- Original Message -----
From: J Baas <wjbaas>
To: ArtsEdNet Talk <artsednet>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2000 9:48 AM
Subject: Re: Italy
>
>
> >
>
> Hey someone that knows what Gelato is
> Gave me a big smile today!
> Been there 2x with students though not in charge. It's
awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!! A
> paradise for artists!
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Gelato
>
> >
> > just as well preserved. We also stopped at Assisi and got to go through
the
> > cathedral pre-earthquake. I don't know if there's much left now. Have a
> > wonderful time and have some gelato for me. (I am soooooo jealous.)
> >
> > paulette
> > ________________________________________________________________________
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Subject: Remember my Easter Greeting?--It does Work!
From: "mdecker" <mdecker>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 20:11:23 -0400
X-Message-Number: 41
We are having our wrap up meeting for our district wide show on Tuesday.
There were many "minor" problems with the show that needed fixing. I was
able to fix many of them using the Getty ArtEd Talk list principle, "Do unto
other as you would have others do unto you". I solved many others just by
sending floods of e-mail so I finally would get an answer (smile). I am
having so much fun now. I know I will never get the other "seasoned" staff
members to admit the error of their ways....I am going to share joining the
list again to them so they can see themselves...and enjoy this caring and
sharing. Our new staff member had absolutely no problems this year with the
show and she is very appreciative of my efforts. I worked hard to please her
and to welcome her. I see these two quotes that were posted the other day
helpful.
"If it's a good idea . . . go ahead and do it. It is much
easier to apologize than it is to get permission."
--Grace M. Hopper
"There are no victims...Just volunteers" (I know this was on the list but I
couldn't find who said it). Let those who think they are "walking all over
you" know how much you enjoy the hard work...that really gets them....see? I
am having fun.
I just wanted to let you know how my Easter Greeting at school worked,
too....with great success! Don't ever think you can not make a difference in
the way we as staff members treat one another. I don't really care about the
administrators...they are supposed to cause me grief (smile). I am a royal
pain to mine....but I really think that is what he likes about me.
If you are reading Gina...I will get to you soon....still trying to help
others....just keep on smiling.
Janice I know you are out there....you would not believe how nice I was to
one of our staff members when I got a nasty e-mail.....I actually won her
over. See...you were just a student teacher and you have more wisdom than
many seasoned teahers. I have been at this (teaching) for many years and am
still learning......and becoming stronger all the way.
I am ending with more words of wisdom. Be careful who you complain to....and
know who you can trust. It just takes time to know.
Judy Decker
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Subject: Re: calligraphy ideas?
From: skygeoff
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 21:40:38 -0700
X-Message-Number: 42
Dear Leah,
I have a great calligraphy project for you. Have the children make early
American Fracturs. These are birth or wedding announcements done in
calligraphy
on parchment paper. We used the golden yellow parchment paper and burned
the
edges. You could also tear them and color them brown. The children made
announcements about their own births or the birth of a sibling or a new
baby-to-be. They made wedding announcements for their parents. Some even
made
birth announcements for their pets. They said things like: "On this day,
the
fourth of June, Joe So-and-So was born". There may be a website on
fracturs.
My lesson on fracturs was published in Susan Rodriguez' book "Culture
Smart".
They really were a hit with the parents, too.
Sky
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Subject: Re: calligraphy ideas?
From: skygeoff
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 21:55:40 -0700
X-Message-Number: 43
I just went to my favorite search tool "Dogpile" and I found wonderful
websites
showing frakturs. I just typed in frakturs and got dozens of incredibles
websites. Anyone who wants to see some examples of this artform should
check
out these websites. Even if you just want to see some beautiful, inspiring
art
work please look at frakturs. They are so joyful and fun.
Sky
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Subject: Re: calligraphy ideas?
From: Holly112
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 21:59:07 EDT
X-Message-Number: 44
I went to dogpile and found none! What am I doing wrong?
Holly :0)
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Subject: Re: calligraphy ideas?
From: Holly112
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 22:02:11 EDT
X-Message-Number: 45
In a message dated 05/21/2000 9:54:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
skygeoff writes:
<< I just went to my favorite search tool "Dogpile" and I found wonderful
websites
showing frakturs. I just typed in frakturs and got dozens of incredibles
websites. Anyone who wants to see some examples of this artform should
check
out these websites. Even if you just want to see some beautiful, inspiring
art
work please look at frakturs. They are so joyful and fun.
Sky >>
Sorry, I meant to paste in your above email...... I wrote "frakturs" in the
search box, and came up with nothing....... :0(
Holly :0)
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Subject: Re: Re: Rainsticks
From: Gail1611
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 23:40:52 EDT
X-Message-Number: 46
If you use the paper towels, they are hard to punch holes. We ended up using
the thickest push pins we could find and then putting in the nails, with
rice
beans and small stones. If you cover it with the brown craft paper it takes
less work and is a good backround for painting on. Gail
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Subject: Re: calligraphy ideas?
From: Maggie White <mwhiteaz>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 21:15:06 -0700
X-Message-Number: 47
Litesal wrote:
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> I am teaching a calligraphy class this summer (soon, June!) to 4, 5, and
6th
> graders. I will have them for three hours a day, three days a week for
> three weeks. <snip.
> Any ideas, thoughts, tips or websites to help me in this endeavor would be
> greatly appreciated.
Leah,
Your class sounds like fun! My students have enjoyed making and writing on
"parchment." It's done on cheap white paper towels with amber shellac. If
you
like, I could send you part of a handout I gave at NAEA a few years ago on
creating illuminated pages.
Besides that, how 'bout they create a family tree and use their new skills?
Maggie
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Subject: Re: Grounds for Sculpture
From: Iteachart7
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 00:33:31 EDT
X-Message-Number: 48
In a message dated 5/21/00 2:42:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
pknott
writes:
<<
I have amassed several of my art teacher friends from around here to go
with
me on the 17th. If some of you show up it will almost be a convention.
L >>
Patty!
In my mind I'm already there!
Can't Wait!
Gabrielle
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Subject: Re: calligraphy ideas?
From: Artemis420
Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 01:11:24 EDT
X-Message-Number: 49
In a message dated 5/21/00 12:24:16 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
gregjuli writes:
<< ve seen calligraphy used inside the shape of the word being done, for
example-calligraphy the word apple many times inside the outline of an
apple.
MaryB >>
I have seen it written around the paper like a rectangular spiral, ending in
the center with the name.
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