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Now onto what I was writing about. I haven't had the discipline
problem you speak of but I would treat them like I would a preschooler
if they are going to act like one. TIMEOUT. We did use a chair out in
the hall I never had to use it past Kindergardeners though. I would not
hesitate to speak to a parent but I would first speak to the teacher.
If it is more than a few kids .Then everyone should spend the period
punished ie Head on desk. I'm sure the funny ones won't seem to funny
when everyone's in trouble. I wonder how you started the year? I ask
when I start out with a new class I go over all the rules if you have a
rowdy bunch it may take a few classes to get the point across but
it's worth it. Then you'll have the rest of the year to work. Perhaps
starting with Still life setups. Or group poses. One thing I did
was I went to the Art Students league from age 14-18 and I didn't laugh
plus our models were nude.My instructure would start out with gesture
drawings (30 second poses) they changed fast enough the kids probably
wouldn't alter them. So hang in there. Try different things stay intouch
with their teacher. Don't bribe them but perhaps reward them with praise
sounds like an age of not high self esteem,puberty,depression and of
course hormones. Maybe they should respect the girls more and since they
don't then maybe the girls should hold off modeling till the boys can
respect them. Try giving the comedians some self esteem perhaps they
could be the model. If muscular role up sleeve and have them just draw
I know I'm going on.
David Zimmerman wrote:
> I too am currently working as an artist-in-residence but I also have art
> education credentials. I had general education classes in classroom
> managment but these classes really didn't prepare me for what actually goes
> on in the art classroom. After teaching in a variety of situations for
> almost 20 years (most of which has been in my own classroom), I am having a
> few problems in this my newest teaching situation. Teaching in your own
> regular classroom is easy for classroom management as you set the rules,
> layout and classroom protocol. When you walk into someone else's room all
> that goes out the window and I have found that I have little real control.
> Each week when I visit a room, the kids are seated in new places and often
> the entire room has been rearranged. Trying to get classroom teachers to
> support and help with your particular form of management and organization
> seems fruitless.
> Try to be familiar with school rules and policies about behavior so you are
> comfortable enforcing exisiting rules and know your perameters. The only
> advice I can give is to learn to let go of some of the control or you'll go
> nuts. Try to have fun and work with the kids enthusiasm. When I have kids
> that are totally inappropriate or too out of control, I just have them
> clean up and go sit outside the room at a small desk. I've asked the
> teachers to provide reading or worksheets in another subject for this time.
> I will not punish with art reading or research (as we've discussed on this
> list because it turns the kids off to art). I feel if they can't behave in
> art, they won't have it at all.
> With the figure drawing, I try to set it up before hand by explaining how
> nude figure drawing is a big part of classical art training and why the
> figure is important in learning to draw. I descibe the figure drawing
> classes I've had and try to portray a tone of serious observation and
> study. There will always be a bit of discomfort for many students when
> they begin this activity, especially adolescents and young teens. Try to
> encourage the students by expressing your confidence in their maturity and
> ability to handle this "adult" activity. Stress that different body types
> are admired and necessary for models--no one is the same. I try not to get
> angry at giggles and such at first but if the behavior continues or gets
> demeaning to the model, I send the kid out of the room. If you set it up
> this way, the kids who act obnoxious are usually looked down on by their
> peers as being less mature than they are.
> Good luck, its a jungle out there!