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Re: World War II
[ Thread ][ Subject ][ Author ][ Date ]John M. Barrick
Sat, 07 Mar 1998 23:56:53 -0500
After typing an entire letter I lost it trying to save it out.
Here goes again. Hi, I did a DBAE lesson this past Fall on Norman
Rockwell. He has a set of 4 paintings which we scanned during our lesson
They are called the 4 Freedoms.It was his explanation of what WWII was
all about. "Freedom of Speech",Freedom from Want"(which is his famous
Thanksgiving Dinner scene)Freedom from fear"'and "Freedom of Worship".
One of oour projects was to make a cover of the "Saturday Evening
Post". Some of the classes picked themes. You could have WWII as one.
The other thing which came to mind was the WPA. Which was set up
at the end of the war. Maybe concentrating on what role Artist had in
this country with the WPA. Finally one of my favorite Artist when I was
in Art school a life time ago was "Max Beckman". A German Jew who
escaped Nazi Germany but had to leave his Paintings behind which inturn
were burned and destroyed. Concentrating on what the Art World was doing
at the time during WWII. Oh yes Beckman ended up in America after WWII
as did many Artist in the WPA. He taught Painting at Washington
University in St.Louis,MO which still has a vast collection of his work.
Sorry for Ranting,
Sandra Summers- Barrick
> artsednet-digest Saturday, March 7 1998 Volume 02 : Number 634
> This edition includes :
> block photo plans!
> Re: Re: mylar ideas?
> Re: Re: Teacher Burnout
> Foreign art educators exchange
> Unfinished work--Elementary level - response
> Re: General Info on Copper Tooling
> Re: supplies
> Re: HOWARD GARDNER'S 9 MULTIPLE INTELLIGENCES
> Re: LA art teachers...
> best tempera paint....
> Printing and publishing question
> Re: artsednet-digest V2 #632
> Re: Re: Art students and the Internet
> Re: best tempera paint....
> Re: Printing and publishing question
> "Cut" the paper, not "paper" the "cut" (Re: Interdisciplinary ideas in arts ed?)
> Re: Printing and publishing question
> different philosophy
> district art proposal
> math and art ideas
> destroyed work
> Re: MFA Abroad
> world war II art ideas
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:03:13 -0400
> From: Jackie Sacs <jsacs>
> Subject: block photo plans!
> does anyone out there have photography lesson plans for the first quarter
> of the year for BLOCK SCHEDULING?
> Can you share tree or four of them with me?
> please send directly to my e-mail address.
> thank you!
> jackie sacs
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:47:40 -0800 (PST)
> From: pbbrown
> Subject: Re: Re: mylar ideas?
> My choice for mylar ideas is as a full wallcovering. A mirror mylar to enlarge a small room.
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:29:37 -0800 (PST)
> From: felix
> Subject: Re: Re: Teacher Burnout
> I would be happy to assist you, as I have taught for 23 years, and have considered my career to be most successful. In the last few years, I have been a hard act to follow, even for myself. Last April, I went on disability, and I am still not back in the classroom...my life has changed and although I love to teach, I'm not sure if I can go back while still on meds. Mine is a classic case of denial and desperate attempts to forestall the inevitable by doing more, and being more.
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:18:10 EST
> From: PurpleArt <PurpleArt>
> Subject: Foreign art educators exchange
> Hello! I am an art teacher in the United States, and I have a friend who is a
> music teacher in Sweden. My friend and some of her colleagues in Sweden are
> looking for other art, music and physical education educators to communicate
> with via email. Would you be interested?
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:40:27 EST
> From: PicasoLovr <PicasoLovr>
> Subject: Unfinished work--Elementary level - response
> Yes, that's a problem I have in fourth and fifth grade due to large class
> sizes and mixed groups of gifted and slow learners in the same class. Many of
> the slower students do need at least three or more periods to finish a
> project. Without giving them the opportunity, they'll get a poor feeling for
> art. They'll never get above an "S" for satisfactory on their grades because
> they didn't get enough time to finish. By fifth grade, some have a distaste
> for art because of this. I've been learning throughout the years to give one
> day per every two weeks to finish up old projects. They have to check for
> their names on projects, put finalizing touches such as paint, glitter, more
> vivid colors, etc. I can't force them to complete a project, but the projects
> are available for them to complete. The rest can free draw for the day. I know
> it sounds chaotic, but if it can be done twice a month, it helps in grading.
> You can always tell the parents, yes the time was available, and no Johnny
> didn't get an exceptional grade in art, because he chose to free draw that day
> rather than give last minute touches to his work.
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:56:24 -0500 (EST)
> From: Fran Marze <email@example.com>
> Subject: Re: General Info on Copper Tooling
> I have not done copper tooling since I taught elementary school. I have
> been at the high school since 1981 (remember teaching ENGLISH for 12
> years) so I can't remember but I'll ask my colleague who teaches art
> metal. We have a wide spectrum of art classes and since we have an art
> metal class, that teacher likes to do copper repousse there. However, I
> just had a brainstorm for my ARt Connections class. We do some craft or
> design with the various periods/cultures we study and i saw a slide of a
> book cover in silvergilt and ivory and thought maybe we could make a small
> book with an aluminum repousse cover. I don't know. Will have to try.
> On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Bunki Kramer wrote:
> > Fran and Ginny....What gauge copper do YOU use for copper tooling?
> > Bunki Kramer
> > Los Cerros Middle School
> > 968 Blemer Rd.
> > Danville, California 94526
> > bkramer.ca.us
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:58:09 -0500 (EST)
> From: Fran Marze <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Subject: Re: supplies
> I seem to think from my elem days that that gray bogus was pretty cheap
> and held temp paint well.when I use it now we do color caricatures ala
> John Johns on illustration board.
> On Fri, 6 Mar 1998, Gail1611 wrote:
> > Hi, I'm looking for paper that won't buckle when used with tempers paint.
> > Also a good , cheap tempera paint. Got any special or basic supply that works
> > well for you? Gail
> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 16:12:22 +0000
> From: kenney5
> Subject: Re: HOWARD GARDNER'S 9 MULTIPLE INTELLIGENCES
> this info is available throughthe getty publications which are listed in
> the catologue of same. He is the author of 1 that I know of and maybe
> more.You can purchase the publications by fax etc.
> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 17:52:26 +0000
> From: kenney5
> Subject: Re: LA art teachers...
> the girl's in circles wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> > I'm an art ed major, junior, in PA- and I'm going to be spending my spring
> > break just south of LA, the Redondu Beach area. I was wondering if any of
> > you out there would be interested in allowing me to observe your classroom for
> > part of a day.
> > Please email me privately if you are in the area, I dont know California at
> > all, so as close as I can get to Redondu Beach would be fantastic.
> > I really appreciate it!! :)
> > Renee
> > r567467h
> Hello Renee,
> Lucky you!!! I have been an arts educator in this
> area(called the SOUTH BAY)look on the map to see why.
> The area has been selected by the Presents' task
> force as a TYPICAL or model area. I can't imagine
> where you will be as most of the schools are not on
> year round schedules. I am sure I am full of
> resources that will be of use to you and I am willing
> to share. Joan, please respond if you please
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 18:02:41 -0700
> From: bkramer.us (Bunki Kramer)
> Subject: best tempera paint....
> >Hi, I'm looking for paper that won't buckle when used with tempers paint.
> >Also a good , cheap tempera paint. Got any special or basic supply that works
> >well for you? Gail
> On the best tempera paint....We went around and around on this issue last
> spring, about the best consistency, best color, best whatever. I was
> getting frustrated, trying several brands, and coming up short on the best
> "all-around" choice. After much searching and trying diff. brands, a few of
> us agreed our consensus "choice" is SAX True Color. It comes in gallon
> containers also with the pumps. This is the only paint I've tried so far
> that doesn't get clogged up inside the pumps...always ready to pump without
> fiddling with the openings. It is VERY reasonable in price compared with
> most other brands. The paint is not runny but not too thick either. The
> colors are true. I had a hard time finding both a good red and a good blue
> in the same brand. Sax True Color has both. It also comes in pints and
> quarts. If you're lookin' to save $, get the gallons. It'll go further. I
> am definitely not a salesperson for SAX...though there IS one on this
> listserv...but when I find something I really like, I like to tell others
> about it. Cya.............
> Bunki Kramer
> Los Cerros Middle School
> 968 Blemer Rd.
> Danville, California 94526
> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 21:07:20 -0600
> From: Chaney <lchaney>
> Subject: Printing and publishing question
> Hello All,
> I feel very stupid asking this question, but here goes. When going to
> art fairs in my home town I often see artists selling small prints of
> larger works. These prints are sold for a lower price than the original
> as expected. My question is how and where may an artist go to have
> these prints made? I can't imagine a high quality print from a place
> like Kinkos Copies. I know there must be places that provides this
> service. I'm also working on writing a childrens book and illustrating
> it but have no idea where to begin with publishers, etc.. Can anyone
> help me out?
> Melissa Chaney
> Cleveland, MO
> (near Kansas City)
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 20:29:46 -0700
> From: "ALPHAME" <ALPHAME>
> Subject: Re: artsednet-digest V2 #632
> The soldiers who took off their shoes to cross deniel could smell defeet.
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 21:19:24 -0800
> From: wkrueger (Walter Krueger)
> Subject: Re: Re: Art students and the Internet
> Hi Darryl:
> Please check out our web page of links relating to using technology of all
> kinds including the web to use with teaching elementary children. If you
> know of any new sites, please write us. Students can indeed access art
> from around the world using the internet.
> - -Walter Krueger http://www.teleport.com/~pava/artstech.shtml
> At 12:11 AM 3/6/98, darrylt wrote:
> >I came across your message by accident and would love to get a copy of the
> >information on sites used by students to access art. I am an Art teacher
> >in Australia and teach computer art to year 5, 6 and 7 students. I am very
> >new to this aspect of their art education and am always on the look out
> >for ways of using the new technology in a creative and interesting way.
> >Thanks for your help,
> >Darryl Tome.
> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 09:05:14 -0500
> From: rojul (Rosa Juliusdottir)
> Subject: Re: best tempera paint....
> Is SAX True Color tempera paint non toxic? thanks in advance and for all
> your good input Bunki.
> Regards from the far north, Rosa
> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 08:50:44 -0500
> From: p-lstudio (betti longinotti)
> Subject: Re: Printing and publishing question
> I've often wondered too where these kind of printers are. You see alot
> of these kind of prints from illlustrators, or in some frame and gallery
> shops too, as well as at arts & crafts fairs. I am wondering if it is
> considered a lithographic print process. But again like you where do
> these companies exist. I have found several sources or companies for
> photographic reproductions to be made, on postcards, greeting cards etc.
> There are a few companies that I have found that cater to the
> reproduction of student art onto products as a fund raising device. I
> have also found a couple of companies that cater to professionals and
> deliver high quality printing at a fairly moderate cost. Because I do
> stained glass I am looking for a company that will print a transparency
> print in volume, that attaches/sticks to a window without adhesive. I
> purchased a couple of greeting cards a couple of years ago of Tiffany
> windows that had a transparency insert like that, and I wondered where
> to find such a company to produce these. My local photofinishing
> company for custom photo processes does not do any of this. They do
> make what they call a 'durotrans' which is like a large transparency or
> slide, but not as flexible as what I am looking for and does not cling
> to a window surface. Also it is very expensive for a single print.
> In Art & Life,
> Betti L.
> or on the www at
> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 09:16:41 EST
> From: TinaLee33 <TinaLee33>
> Subject: "Cut" the paper, not "paper" the "cut" (Re: Interdisciplinary ideas in arts ed?)
> Thank you all for your reply (both via personal emails and this list). I'll
> compose a summary soon to share all the wonderful ideas with you.
> Just a quick note: yes, you can xerox or scan the papercuts, but they are no
> longer papercuts anymore! :-) The essence of papercuts is the "cut" not the
> paper! :-) (especially those delicate cuts, you have to handle it to believe
> it!), Just as you can take a picture of a painting or of a beanie baby, but
> the picture is not a painting nor a beanie baby. :-)
> Thanks again,
> >I just visited a Chinese papercut web site (www.sci-net.net/artsofchina).
> >colorful site. Worth checking out.
> >I would like to use the papercuts in my arts class. Here are my ideas.
> >pressed on a window
> >Since my school is an Arts alternative school, I was wondering how other
> >teachers in my school could use them in their classes. (I would like to have
> >other teachers help pay for them.)
> >Any ideas out there?
> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 07:34:14 -0800
> From: Maggie White <mwhite>
> Subject: Re: Printing and publishing question
> Chaney wrote:
> > as expected. My question is how and where may an artist go to have
> > these prints made? I can't imagine a high quality print from a place
> > like Kinkos Copies. I know there must be places that provide this
> > service. I'm also working on writing a childrens book and illustrating
> > it but have no idea where to begin with publishers, etc.. Can anyone
> > help me out?
> > Melissa Chaney
> The Artist's Magazine has a number of ads of companies that do this.
> Maggie**remove x in address to reply
> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 10:10:05 EST
> From: BOL7060 <BOL7060>
> Subject: different philosophy
> I'm hoping someone out there can offer me some advice on what they've done
> when their colleague has a different philosophy about art ed. than their own.
> I myself am very DBAE and my colleague is basically studio or project
> oriented. She sees no need to discuss elements of art, famous artists,
> multicultural art or aesthetics. She barely follows the curriculum that we
> have. It's a very touchy situation and when I've suggested an idea for her to
> incorporate into a lesson she seems defensive. I want to have a good working
> relation with her but it is a challenge, especially since our work ethic is
> also different (she doesn't feel commited to our school).
> I feel it's so important to give middle school kids a well rounded view of art
> before they leave 8th gr., because some of them may never take art in high
> I love my job, but it gets depressing to work with someone who doesn't feel
> the same enthusiasm as I feel. I'm open to suggestions so that it works out
> well for me, the colleague and the kids.
> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 08:17:52 -0700
> From: Ruth WIlson <RWilson>
> Subject: district art proposal
> The district my kids attend has a dilema. There has been in the past
> attempts to have art teachers provided when a school chooses to spend
> their money for this, hit or miss approach. Now they had a bond election
> telling voters they would replace prograams that have been lost or
> overlooked if it passed (art as 1). It passed but now they have decided
> to mandate that all elementary schools will have to provide instruction
> in art, music, PE, technology, have a counselor, and GT (gifted &
> talented) but they can decide how they will provide this (either a
> certified teacher, parent volunteers, para pros, classroom teachers). My
> question is what do you think of this? Is it legal to have un certified
> people working with kids on a long term basis? How are these schools
> held accountable for district, state, & national standards? Won't they
> eventually lose their accredidation? Our charter schools have full time
> certified teachers in all these positions. Just frustrated and wish I
> had ideas to help the upper level art teachers who have forever been
> fighting for art in the elementary level. When they rewrite the
> curriculum for the elementary level if it is written for any volunteer
> they feel they will eliminate any future possibilities? Keep in mind I
> know that the people volunteering have good intentions and great hearts.
> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 08:44:09 -0700
> From: Ruth WIlson <RWilson>
> Subject: math and art ideas
> I have had a 2nd. and 6th. grade teacher ask me for ideas to present a
> lesson on fractions using art that they could do with their classes
> combined. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
> Also, here's another of my favorite lessons: I have hung floor to
> ceiling butcher roll paper (dark blue) to create a room inside my room.
> In this enclosed area I have a CD playing of hunderstorms and rain. The
> children come in and I have newspaper available, no scissors or other
> supplies. They listen to the rain, I flash the lights on and off to
> simulate lightning. After quietly absorbing the effects they are asked
> without talking to communicate with others (teams of 2-3) or alone
> create something they would do in the rain (they mime playing games like
> baseball, make rain gear out of the newspaper, make origami boats, rain
> hats, etc). Fun project to integrate with their unit on weather.
> elementary level. Ruth
> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 10:50:04 -0500 (EST)
> From: Didij
> Subject: destroyed work
> Lynda, as I'm sure you know, there is a difference between the child who
> makes "mistakes" along the way, wishing to start over and the child who
> destroys completed (or nearly completed) artwork. It's easy enough to provide
> a child with another sheet of paper, if that is all s/he needs in order to
> find satisfaction in artmaking. That's what most of us would do ourselves, if
> we didn't like the way something was coming out. But it sounded like you were
> more concerned about children who destroy work at the end of the process. In
> the middle of a busy class, it is hard to step back and see why a child would
> choose to do this. If you later look for patterns in that child's behavior
> during art class, you may find some answers. I check in with classroom
> teachers, and occasionally call parents if I am concerned. It's a good idea
> to talk with the child at a time other than art class. Say what you have been
> noticing, and see how they respond. Together you can set up a plan for
> success in art class. Ultimately, the process is more valuable than the
> product, but I know it is disappointing to see a wonderful work of art become
> Diane Jaquith
> Burr School
> Newton, MA
> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 13:25:44 EST
> From: JUDIEJ48 <JUDIEJ48>
> Subject: Re: MFA Abroad
> Duffy, the University of Georgia in Athens, Georgia has a program in Cortona,
> Italy. It is a pretty popular program and I think they offer sculpture,
> drawing, painting, jewelry, art history, etc. Sorry I don't have the info for
> contacting them, but you could probably find the information in your college
> counselor's office or perhaps the library.
> Good luck! Cortona is beautiful!!!
> Judie J
> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 12:29:08 -0700
> From: Ruth WIlson <RWilson>
> Subject: world war II art ideas
> any ideas of artists, or lesson ideas appropriate for 6th. graders
> studying World War II ? thanks Ruth
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