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>
> artsednet-digest Saturday, March 7 1998 Volume 02 : Number 634
>
> This edition includes :
> block photo plans!
> Re: Re: mylar ideas?
> Re: Re: Teacher Burnout
> Foreign art educators exchange
> Unfinished work--Elementary level - response
> Re: General Info on Copper Tooling
> Re: supplies
> Re: HOWARD GARDNER'S 9 MULTIPLE INTELLIGENCES
> Re: LA art teachers...
> best tempera paint....
> Printing and publishing question
> Re: artsednet-digest V2 #632
> Re: Re: Art students and the Internet
> Re: best tempera paint....
> Re: Printing and publishing question
> "Cut" the paper, not "paper" the "cut" (Re: Interdisciplinary ideas in arts ed?)
> Re: Printing and publishing question
> different philosophy
> district art proposal
> math and art ideas
> destroyed work
> Re: MFA Abroad
> world war II art ideas
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:03:13 -0400
> From: Jackie Sacs <jsacs>
> Subject: block photo plans!
>
> does anyone out there have photography lesson plans for the first quarter
> of the year for BLOCK SCHEDULING?
>
> Can you share tree or four of them with me?
>
> please send directly to my e-mail address.
>
> thank you!
>
> jackie sacs
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:47:40 -0800 (PST)
> From: pbbrown
> Subject: Re: Re: mylar ideas?
>
> My choice for mylar ideas is as a full wallcovering. A mirror mylar to enlarge a small room.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:29:37 -0800 (PST)
> From: felix
> Subject: Re: Re: Teacher Burnout
>
> I would be happy to assist you, as I have taught for 23 years, and have considered my career to be most successful. In the last few years, I have been a hard act to follow, even for myself. Last April, I went on disability, and I am still not back in the classroom...my life has changed and although I love to teach, I'm not sure if I can go back while still on meds. Mine is a classic case of denial and desperate attempts to forestall the inevitable by doing more, and being more.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:18:10 EST
> From: PurpleArt <PurpleArt>
> Subject: Foreign art educators exchange
>
> Hello! I am an art teacher in the United States, and I have a friend who is a
> music teacher in Sweden. My friend and some of her colleagues in Sweden are
> looking for other art, music and physical education educators to communicate
> with via email. Would you be interested?
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:40:27 EST
> From: PicasoLovr <PicasoLovr>
> Subject: Unfinished work--Elementary level - response
>
> Hollyl,
>
> Yes, that's a problem I have in fourth and fifth grade due to large class
> sizes and mixed groups of gifted and slow learners in the same class. Many of
> the slower students do need at least three or more periods to finish a
> project. Without giving them the opportunity, they'll get a poor feeling for
> art. They'll never get above an "S" for satisfactory on their grades because
> they didn't get enough time to finish. By fifth grade, some have a distaste
> for art because of this. I've been learning throughout the years to give one
> day per every two weeks to finish up old projects. They have to check for
> their names on projects, put finalizing touches such as paint, glitter, more
> vivid colors, etc. I can't force them to complete a project, but the projects
> are available for them to complete. The rest can free draw for the day. I know
> it sounds chaotic, but if it can be done twice a month, it helps in grading.
> You can always tell the parents, yes the time was available, and no Johnny
> didn't get an exceptional grade in art, because he chose to free draw that day
> rather than give last minute touches to his work.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:56:24 -0500 (EST)
> From: Fran Marze <fmaiu+@pitt.edu>
> Subject: Re: General Info on Copper Tooling
>
> I have not done copper tooling since I taught elementary school. I have
> been at the high school since 1981 (remember teaching ENGLISH for 12
> years) so I can't remember but I'll ask my colleague who teaches art
> metal. We have a wide spectrum of art classes and since we have an art
> metal class, that teacher likes to do copper repousse there. However, I
> just had a brainstorm for my ARt Connections class. We do some craft or
> design with the various periods/cultures we study and i saw a slide of a
> book cover in silvergilt and ivory and thought maybe we could make a small
> book with an aluminum repousse cover. I don't know. Will have to try.
>
> Fran
>
> On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Bunki Kramer wrote:
>
> > Fran and Ginny....What gauge copper do YOU use for copper tooling?
> >
> > Bunki Kramer
> > Los Cerros Middle School
> > 968 Blemer Rd.
> > Danville, California 94526
> > bkramer.ca.us
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 19:58:09 -0500 (EST)
> From: Fran Marze <fmaiu+@pitt.edu>
> Subject: Re: supplies
>
> I seem to think from my elem days that that gray bogus was pretty cheap
> and held temp paint well.when I use it now we do color caricatures ala
> John Johns on illustration board.
>
> On Fri, 6 Mar 1998, Gail1611 wrote:
>
> > Hi, I'm looking for paper that won't buckle when used with tempers paint.
> > Also a good , cheap tempera paint. Got any special or basic supply that works
> > well for you? Gail
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 16:12:22 +0000
> From: kenney5
> Subject: Re: HOWARD GARDNER'S 9 MULTIPLE INTELLIGENCES
>
> this info is available throughthe getty publications which are listed in
> the catologue of same. He is the author of 1 that I know of and maybe
> more.You can purchase the publications by fax etc.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 17:52:26 +0000
> From: kenney5
> Subject: Re: LA art teachers...
>
> the girl's in circles wrote:
> >
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I'm an art ed major, junior, in PA- and I'm going to be spending my spring
> > break just south of LA, the Redondu Beach area. I was wondering if any of
> > you out there would be interested in allowing me to observe your classroom for
> > part of a day.
> > Please email me privately if you are in the area, I dont know California at
> > all, so as close as I can get to Redondu Beach would be fantastic.
> > I really appreciate it!! :)
> > Renee
> > r567467h
> Hello Renee,
> Lucky you!!! I have been an arts educator in this
> area(called the SOUTH BAY)look on the map to see why.
> The area has been selected by the Presents' task
> force as a TYPICAL or model area. I can't imagine
> where you will be as most of the schools are not on
> year round schedules. I am sure I am full of
> resources that will be of use to you and I am willing
> to share. Joan, please respond if you please
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 18:02:41 -0700
> From: bkramer.us (Bunki Kramer)
> Subject: best tempera paint....
>
> >Hi, I'm looking for paper that won't buckle when used with tempers paint.
> >Also a good , cheap tempera paint. Got any special or basic supply that works
> >well for you? Gail
> .................
>
> On the best tempera paint....We went around and around on this issue last
> spring, about the best consistency, best color, best whatever. I was
> getting frustrated, trying several brands, and coming up short on the best
> "all-around" choice. After much searching and trying diff. brands, a few of
> us agreed our consensus "choice" is SAX True Color. It comes in gallon
> containers also with the pumps. This is the only paint I've tried so far
> that doesn't get clogged up inside the pumps...always ready to pump without
> fiddling with the openings. It is VERY reasonable in price compared with
> most other brands. The paint is not runny but not too thick either. The
> colors are true. I had a hard time finding both a good red and a good blue
> in the same brand. Sax True Color has both. It also comes in pints and
> quarts. If you're lookin' to save $, get the gallons. It'll go further. I
> am definitely not a salesperson for SAX...though there IS one on this
> listserv...but when I find something I really like, I like to tell others
> about it. Cya.............
>
> Bunki Kramer
> Los Cerros Middle School
> 968 Blemer Rd.
> Danville, California 94526
> bkramer.ca.us
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 21:07:20 -0600
> From: Chaney <lchaney>
> Subject: Printing and publishing question
>
> Hello All,
>
> I feel very stupid asking this question, but here goes. When going to
> art fairs in my home town I often see artists selling small prints of
> larger works. These prints are sold for a lower price than the original
> as expected. My question is how and where may an artist go to have
> these prints made? I can't imagine a high quality print from a place
> like Kinkos Copies. I know there must be places that provides this
> service. I'm also working on writing a childrens book and illustrating
> it but have no idea where to begin with publishers, etc.. Can anyone
> help me out?
>
> Melissa Chaney
> Cleveland, MO
> (near Kansas City)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 20:29:46 -0700
> From: "ALPHAME" <ALPHAME>
> Subject: Re: artsednet-digest V2 #632
>
> The soldiers who took off their shoes to cross deniel could smell defeet.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 21:19:24 -0800
> From: wkrueger (Walter Krueger)
> Subject: Re: Re: Art students and the Internet
>
> Hi Darryl:
>
> Please check out our web page of links relating to using technology of all
> kinds including the web to use with teaching elementary children. If you
> know of any new sites, please write us. Students can indeed access art
> from around the world using the internet.
>
> - -Walter Krueger http://www.teleport.com/~pava/artstech.shtml
>
> At 12:11 AM 3/6/98, darrylt wrote:
> >I came across your message by accident and would love to get a copy of the
> >information on sites used by students to access art. I am an Art teacher
> >in Australia and teach computer art to year 5, 6 and 7 students. I am very
> >new to this aspect of their art education and am always on the look out
> >for ways of using the new technology in a creative and interesting way.
> >Thanks for your help,
> >Darryl Tome.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 09:05:14 -0500
> From: rojul (Rosa Juliusdottir)
> Subject: Re: best tempera paint....
>
> Is SAX True Color tempera paint non toxic? thanks in advance and for all
> your good input Bunki.
> Regards from the far north, Rosa
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 08:50:44 -0500
> From: p-lstudio (betti longinotti)
> Subject: Re: Printing and publishing question
>
> Melissa,
> I've often wondered too where these kind of printers are. You see alot
> of these kind of prints from illlustrators, or in some frame and gallery
> shops too, as well as at arts & crafts fairs. I am wondering if it is
> considered a lithographic print process. But again like you where do
> these companies exist. I have found several sources or companies for
> photographic reproductions to be made, on postcards, greeting cards etc.
> There are a few companies that I have found that cater to the
> reproduction of student art onto products as a fund raising device. I
> have also found a couple of companies that cater to professionals and
> deliver high quality printing at a fairly moderate cost. Because I do
> stained glass I am looking for a company that will print a transparency
> print in volume, that attaches/sticks to a window without adhesive. I
> purchased a couple of greeting cards a couple of years ago of Tiffany
> windows that had a transparency insert like that, and I wondered where
> to find such a company to produce these. My local photofinishing
> company for custom photo processes does not do any of this. They do
> make what they call a 'durotrans' which is like a large transparency or
> slide, but not as flexible as what I am looking for and does not cling
> to a window surface. Also it is very expensive for a single print.
>
> In Art & Life,
> Betti L.
> p-lstudio
> or on the www at
> http://www.angelfire.com/nc/plstudio
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 09:16:41 EST
> From: TinaLee33 <TinaLee33>
> Subject: "Cut" the paper, not "paper" the "cut" (Re: Interdisciplinary ideas in arts ed?)
>
> Hi,
>
> Thank you all for your reply (both via personal emails and this list). I'll
> compose a summary soon to share all the wonderful ideas with you.
>
> Just a quick note: yes, you can xerox or scan the papercuts, but they are no
> longer papercuts anymore! :-) The essence of papercuts is the "cut" not the
> paper! :-) (especially those delicate cuts, you have to handle it to believe
> it!), Just as you can take a picture of a painting or of a beanie baby, but
> the picture is not a painting nor a beanie baby. :-)
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Tina
>
> >Hi,
> >I just visited a Chinese papercut web site (www.sci-net.net/artsofchina).
> Neat
> >colorful site. Worth checking out.
> >I would like to use the papercuts in my arts class. Here are my ideas.
>
> >Mobiles
> >stencils
> >pressed on a window
>
> >Since my school is an Arts alternative school, I was wondering how other
> >teachers in my school could use them in their classes. (I would like to have
> >other teachers help pay for them.)
>
> >Any ideas out there?
>
> >Tina
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 07:34:14 -0800
> From: Maggie White <mwhite>
> Subject: Re: Printing and publishing question
>
> Chaney wrote:
> >
> >
> > as expected. My question is how and where may an artist go to have
> > these prints made? I can't imagine a high quality print from a place
> > like Kinkos Copies. I know there must be places that provide this
> > service. I'm also working on writing a childrens book and illustrating
> > it but have no idea where to begin with publishers, etc.. Can anyone
> > help me out?
> >
> > Melissa Chaney
>
> Melissa,
>
> The Artist's Magazine has a number of ads of companies that do this.
>
> Maggie**remove x in address to reply
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 10:10:05 EST
> From: BOL7060 <BOL7060>
> Subject: different philosophy
>
> Hello,
> I'm hoping someone out there can offer me some advice on what they've done
> when their colleague has a different philosophy about art ed. than their own.
> I myself am very DBAE and my colleague is basically studio or project
> oriented. She sees no need to discuss elements of art, famous artists,
> multicultural art or aesthetics. She barely follows the curriculum that we
> have. It's a very touchy situation and when I've suggested an idea for her to
> incorporate into a lesson she seems defensive. I want to have a good working
> relation with her but it is a challenge, especially since our work ethic is
> also different (she doesn't feel commited to our school).
> I feel it's so important to give middle school kids a well rounded view of art
> before they leave 8th gr., because some of them may never take art in high
> school.
> I love my job, but it gets depressing to work with someone who doesn't feel
> the same enthusiasm as I feel. I'm open to suggestions so that it works out
> well for me, the colleague and the kids.
> Thanks,
> Peri
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 08:17:52 -0700
> From: Ruth WIlson <RWilson>
> Subject: district art proposal
>
> The district my kids attend has a dilema. There has been in the past
> attempts to have art teachers provided when a school chooses to spend
> their money for this, hit or miss approach. Now they had a bond election
> telling voters they would replace prograams that have been lost or
> overlooked if it passed (art as 1). It passed but now they have decided
> to mandate that all elementary schools will have to provide instruction
> in art, music, PE, technology, have a counselor, and GT (gifted &
> talented) but they can decide how they will provide this (either a
> certified teacher, parent volunteers, para pros, classroom teachers). My
> question is what do you think of this? Is it legal to have un certified
> people working with kids on a long term basis? How are these schools
> held accountable for district, state, & national standards? Won't they
> eventually lose their accredidation? Our charter schools have full time
> certified teachers in all these positions. Just frustrated and wish I
> had ideas to help the upper level art teachers who have forever been
> fighting for art in the elementary level. When they rewrite the
> curriculum for the elementary level if it is written for any volunteer
> they feel they will eliminate any future possibilities? Keep in mind I
> know that the people volunteering have good intentions and great hearts.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 08:44:09 -0700
> From: Ruth WIlson <RWilson>
> Subject: math and art ideas
>
> I have had a 2nd. and 6th. grade teacher ask me for ideas to present a
> lesson on fractions using art that they could do with their classes
> combined. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
> Also, here's another of my favorite lessons: I have hung floor to
> ceiling butcher roll paper (dark blue) to create a room inside my room.
> In this enclosed area I have a CD playing of hunderstorms and rain. The
> children come in and I have newspaper available, no scissors or other
> supplies. They listen to the rain, I flash the lights on and off to
> simulate lightning. After quietly absorbing the effects they are asked
> without talking to communicate with others (teams of 2-3) or alone
> create something they would do in the rain (they mime playing games like
> baseball, make rain gear out of the newspaper, make origami boats, rain
> hats, etc). Fun project to integrate with their unit on weather.
> elementary level. Ruth
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 10:50:04 -0500 (EST)
> From: Didij
> Subject: destroyed work
>
> Lynda, as I'm sure you know, there is a difference between the child who
> makes "mistakes" along the way, wishing to start over and the child who
> destroys completed (or nearly completed) artwork. It's easy enough to provide
> a child with another sheet of paper, if that is all s/he needs in order to
> find satisfaction in artmaking. That's what most of us would do ourselves, if
> we didn't like the way something was coming out. But it sounded like you were
> more concerned about children who destroy work at the end of the process. In
> the middle of a busy class, it is hard to step back and see why a child would
> choose to do this. If you later look for patterns in that child's behavior
> during art class, you may find some answers. I check in with classroom
> teachers, and occasionally call parents if I am concerned. It's a good idea
> to talk with the child at a time other than art class. Say what you have been
> noticing, and see how they respond. Together you can set up a plan for
> success in art class. Ultimately, the process is more valuable than the
> product, but I know it is disappointing to see a wonderful work of art become
> trash.
>
> Diane Jaquith
> Burr School
> Newton, MA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 13:25:44 EST
> From: JUDIEJ48 <JUDIEJ48>
> Subject: Re: MFA Abroad
>
> Duffy, the University of Georgia in Athens, Georgia has a program in Cortona,
> Italy. It is a pretty popular program and I think they offer sculpture,
> drawing, painting, jewelry, art history, etc. Sorry I don't have the info for
> contacting them, but you could probably find the information in your college
> counselor's office or perhaps the library.
>
> Good luck! Cortona is beautiful!!!
>
> Judie J
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 12:29:08 -0700
> From: Ruth WIlson <RWilson>
> Subject: world war II art ideas
>
> any ideas of artists, or lesson ideas appropriate for 6th. graders
> studying World War II ? thanks Ruth
>
> ------------------------------
>
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