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From: Bryan L. Huth (bryanlhuth_at_TeacherArtExchange)
Date: Sat Mar 03 2007 - 10:38:46 PST


 Hi Heather,
Hopefully this gets to you on the exchange. I'm not techie so have never
sent in mail. But this question on the special ed kids in class is right up
my ally. My oldest son was in sped classes throughout school. But always in
regular art classes. I started teaching inclusion classes in my art classes
with community service students. The community service students got a
regular elective grade for this and could do any of the assignments they
wanted. The community service student knew what this was before they signed
up and I would do some training w/the students before they got partnered up
the the challenged student. I would also spend some time w/the sponsor
teacher of the challenged students to pick out who would be appropriate for
regular ed. classes.
 I moved to new Mexico in 1994. Albuquerque had gotten rid of most of their
art teachers, so I went back to school at 43 and got my special ed
certification. I had lots of background w/my son. This really helped with
modifying my art lesson for my challenged students. We kept our numbers down
to 24 w/ the special students and the comm.ser. included in that number. The
students really bonded w/ each other thru empathy and understanding. They
would speak to each other in the halls and all over campus. Hope this gets
to you if not I'll call you.
Mary Jane Huth
505-291-8623
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> TEACHERARTEXCHANGE Digest for Wednesday, February 28, 2007.
>
> 1. Re:Question about digital entries ??
> 2. Re: Re: Question about digital entries ??
> 3. Re: Re: Question about digital entries ??
> 4. thoughts about a SPED art class
> 5. Re: weblogs
> 6. Sketchbooks
> 7. African Art Lesson - Granary Doors - Personal Identity (Elem-MS)
> 8. RE: Early finishers
> 9. A good story about an "at-risk" student
> 10. YAM activities calendar
> 11. Re: A good story about an "at-risk" student
>
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>
> Subject: Re:Question about digital entries ??
> From: Donna Pauler <paulerlist@sbcglobal.net>
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:49:35 -0600
> X-Message-Number: 1
>
> Woody
> Resolution makes no difference. To tell the size of an image look at
> the total number of pixels and bit depth.
> You can set up a blank document in Photoshop (or whatever program you
> use) and put in the number of pixels across and horizontal and
> vertical. Then put in resolution...frequency of pixels per inch. No
> matter what number of pixels per inch you put in the total is the
> same defined by the number of pixels both horizontal and vertical.
> The dots per inch are only redistributing the number of pixels in the
> image. It is either compressing all the pixels into a smaller space
> or allowing them to be bigger (fewer) in the same amount of space.
> Bit depth (RGB, Grayscale, or Bit Map) also makes a difference is the
> total file size. I got to about 14 kb with a file set up at at the
> size you gave (4000 dpi) at bit map mode (black white only) These
> type files could be saved as GIF files (lossless file format).
> Hope that helps.
> Donna
>
> On Mar 1, 2007, at 1:01 AM, TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group
> digest wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Subject: Question about digital entries ??
>> From: Woody Duncan <woodyduncan@comcast.net>
>> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:27:51 -0700
>> X-Message-Number: 8
>>
>> Sorry for the long explanation. My question is at the end.
>>
>> I'm a bit perplexed. The NMWS has for a couple of years been
>> accepting (only) digital entries for our juried exhibits.
>> We do this via e-mail and later send the jpegs on to our
>> juror on a CD. It is working fine, sort of. There has been a
>> learning curve for some of our members. For the last two
>> exhibits, I have served as file manager. I download the jpegs
>> to my computer and put together a spread sheet.
>>
>> We planned this change to digital carefully. We set these standards
>> for entries:
>> jpeg only
>> 72 dpi
>> 700 pixels on the longest dimension (or as close as possible)
>> file name convention:
>> first 4 letters last name
>> first 4 letters first name
>> 2 digit month
>> 2 digit year (of exhibit)
>> A, B, or C for 1st, 2nd and 3rd entry
>> Example: duncwood0507A
>>
>> Of course not every entry follows the guidelines and I'm too nice a
>> guy
>> so I fix them or explain how to submit a corrected entry. Too many
>> people
>> try to do it themselves rather than get help from someone who knows
>> how.
>>
>> Now, finally my perplexing question: After the last exhibit I was
>> convinced
>> by others that the 72 dpi was not important. So I quit being
>> concerned that
>> some are 75, 96, 180 or 300. The monitor shows all those as if they
>> were 72.
>> If the image size is near 700 pixels on the longest side they will
>> all appear
>> similar to our juror. But today I got two entries at 4000 dpi. I have
>> no idea
>> how the digital pic was created. Will it matter ? If it's going to
>> look OK
>> then I guess it's no different than 180 or 300.
>>
>> It's longest dimension is only 480 pixels so I can't reduce the
>> resolution
>> in photoshop because it will just get unbelievably small.
>>
>> More groups are going to digital entries. I believe the standard is
>> 72dpi.
>> If our members send entries to other competitions that do not meet
>> every
>> criteria won't they be rejected ? That's my real concern. If anyone
>> can
>> share their wisdom with me I'd appreciate it.
>> Woody
>>
>> Woody Duncan woodyduncan@comcast.net
>>
>> Invitation to my exhibitions
>> http://www.taospaint.com/Painted/Horse.html
>>
>> January 19, 2009 Be Patience America
>>
>> Join the Campaign Now
>> John Edwards for President
>> http://johnedwards.com/splash/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Subject: Re: Question about digital entries ??
>> From: <rpopek@verizon.net>
>> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:47:23 -0600 (CST)
>> X-Message-Number: 9
>>
>> From what I know the computer screen will show a picture at 72dpi
>> no matter what the original resolution is. The problem with a
>> higher resolution is sending a photo via e-mail and the file size
>> you have to store on your hard drive takes up far more space.
>> Resolution is essentially for printing. A 72dpi will not print as
>> an 8x10 as nicely as a 300dpi. Most home printers will not handle a
>> resolution of larger than 300dpi Why they would send you a file at
>> 4000 is beyond me? For your purposes of viewing them on a computer
>> screen higher resolutions are not necessary Does this help? Hope so.
>> Renee Popek
>>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Re: Question about digital entries ??
> From: rpopek@verizon.net
> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 07:56:18 -0600 (CST)
> X-Message-Number: 2
>
> The 4000dpi sounds very strange to me? The higher the resolution the
> higher=
> the file size so I'm not sure whats going on with that picture? Again
> reso=
> lution is generally for printing. In order to know what they did I'd have
> t=
> o see it in photoshop. However if you use the crop tool you can set the
> siz=
> e and the resolution to whatever it is you want. The pictures dimensions
> ca=
> n be smaller and the resolution still high then photoshop asks you file
> siz=
> e before you save and you can choose high medium or low. If they choose
> low=
> or medium then you can have a high resolution with a low file size Not
> sur=
> e why you would want to do this? I think they just didn't know what they
> we=
> re doing. My guess.
> Another concern that might be interesting is that different monitors show
> c=
> olors differently. I can use photoshop to enhance the colors of a painting
> =
> (and I often do that when putting students work on the web) to just show
> it=
> at it's best. I tend to want to brighten things up a bit. The original
> oft=
> en looks less illuminated when not on a monitor. =20
> I just got my Artists magazine, the April issue. They have an article in
> =
> it that addresses just what you are considering. I looked at it briefly
> thi=
> s morning before heading off to work. I think it has some good
> information.
> Renee
>
>
>
>>From: Woody Duncan <woodyduncan@comcast.net>
>>Date: 2007/02/28 Wed PM 06:14:17 CST
>>To: TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group
>><teacherartexchange@lists.pub.gett=
> y.edu>
>>Subject: Re: [teacherartexchange] Question about digital entries ??
>
>>Renee, Thanks -
>>I follow what you are telling me.
>>We also say we will not except a file size
>>larger than 500 K. Because of the space problem
>>you mentioned. I'm looking at one image now.
>>It is 4000 dpi, 400 x 293 pixels yet the file size is only 10.5 KB.
>>Is that possible ? I thought the greater the dpi the much higher
>>the file size. I have other images that meet the requirements
>>yet have much higher files ????
>>=09=09Woody
>>
>>On Feb 28, 2007, at 4:47 PM, <rpopek@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> From what I know the computer screen will show a picture at 72dpi =20
>>> no matter what the original resolution is. The problem with a =20
>>> higher resolution is sending a photo via e-mail and the file size =20
>>> you have to store on your hard drive takes up far more space. =20
>>> Resolution is essentially for printing. A 72dpi will not print as =20
>>> an 8x10 as nicely as a 300dpi. Most home printers will not handle a =20
>>> resolution of larger than 300dpi Why they would send you a file at =20
>>> 4000 is beyond me? For your purposes of viewing them on a computer =20
>>> screen higher resolutions are not necessary Does this help? Hope so.
>>> Renee Popek
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Woody Duncan <woodyduncan@comcast.net>
>>>> Date: 2007/02/28 Wed PM 05:27:51 CST
>>>> To: TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group =20
>>>> <teacherartexchange@lists.pub.getty.edu>
>>>> Subject: [teacherartexchange] Question about digital entries ??
>>>
>>>> Sorry for the long explanation. My question is at the end.
>>>>
>>>> I'm a bit perplexed. The NMWS has for a couple of years been
>>>> accepting (only) digital entries for our juried exhibits.
>>>> We do this via e-mail and later send the jpegs on to our
>>>> juror on a CD. It is working fine, sort of. There has been a
>>>> learning curve for some of our members. For the last two
>>>> exhibits, I have served as file manager. I download the jpegs
>>>> to my computer and put together a spread sheet.
>>>>
>>>> We planned this change to digital carefully. We set these standards
>>>> for entries:
>>>> jpeg only
>>>> 72 dpi
>>>> 700 pixels on the longest dimension (or as close as possible)
>>>> file name convention:
>>>> first 4 letters last name
>>>> first 4 letters first name
>>>> 2 digit month
>>>> 2 digit year (of exhibit)
>>>> A, B, or C for 1st, 2nd and 3rd entry
>>>> Example: duncwood0507A
>>>>
>>>> Of course not every entry follows the guidelines and I'm too nice =20
>>>> a guy
>>>> so I fix them or explain how to submit a corrected entry. Too many
>>>> people
>>>> try to do it themselves rather than get help from someone who =20
>>>> knows how.
>>>>
>>>> Now, finally my perplexing question: After the last exhibit I was
>>>> convinced
>>>> by others that the 72 dpi was not important. So I quit being
>>>> concerned that
>>>> some are 75, 96, 180 or 300. The monitor shows all those as if they
>>>> were 72.
>>>> If the image size is near 700 pixels on the longest side they will
>>>> all appear
>>>> similar to our juror. But today I got two entries at 4000 dpi. I have
>>>> no idea
>>>> how the digital pic was created. Will it matter ? If it's going to
>>>> look OK
>>>> then I guess it's no different than 180 or 300.
>>>>
>>>> It's longest dimension is only 480 pixels so I can't reduce the
>>>> resolution
>>>> in photoshop because it will just get unbelievably small.
>>>>
>>>> More groups are going to digital entries. I believe the standard is
>>>> 72dpi.
>>>> If our members send entries to other competitions that do not meet =20
>>>> every
>>>> criteria won't they be rejected ? That's my real concern. If =20
>>>> anyone can
>>>> share their wisdom with me I'd appreciate it.
>>>> Woody
>>>>
>>>> Woody Duncan woodyduncan@comcast.net
>>>>
>>>> Invitation to my exhibitions
>>>> http://www.taospaint.com/Painted/Horse.html
>>>>
>>>> January 19, 2009 Be Patience America
>>>>
>>>> Join the Campaign Now
>>>> John Edwards for President
>>>> http://johnedwards.com/splash/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>Woody, Retired in Albuquerque
>> mailto:woodyduncan@comcast.net
>>
>>35 Quality Middle School Art Lessons
>>in powerpoint format, on one CD $17 (includes shipping)
>>http://www.taospaint.com/QualityLessons.html
>>Ordering Address: PO Box 91703
>>Albuquerque, NM 87199-1703
>>
>>=93The function of the overwhelming majority of your artwork
>>is simply to teach you how to make the small fraction
>>of your artwork that soars.=94 from: =93Art & Fear=94
>>
>>Woody's Watercolor Portfolio:
>>http://www.taospaint.com/Portfolio/Watercolors.html
>>
>>Invitation to my exhibitions
>>http://www.taospaint.com/Painted/Horse.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
> Subject: Re: Re: Question about digital entries ??
> From: "Jen Ellis" <just.jen.ellis@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:19:29 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 3
>
> Donna and Renee have hit it spot on. Resolution higher than 72dpi is
> not necessary for web viewing. The person should not be sending in a
> file of that resolution. Working in print the standard is usually
> 300dpi, it may change to 600dpi at some point, but I doubt any
> printers could even utilize the quality of a 4000dpi file.
>
> If you are having problems with resizing the file a quick fix is
> taking a screen shot, pasting it into a graphics program and resaving.
>
> For your question:
> If our members send entries to other competitions that do not meet every
> criteria won't they be rejected ?
>
> Most definitely yes. It's an easy way for them to weed out entries.
> I've had it happen to friends. Directions must be followed very
> carefully. It is the same as if you had to mail in a photograph. If
> you sent in a huge picture it would get set aside. Graduate school is
> the same.
>
> Jen
> Cleveland, OH
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: thoughts about a SPED art class
> From: Heather_Hayes@roundrockisd.org
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:12:59 -0600
> X-Message-Number: 4
>
> My middle school has a high population of SPED students, many of which are
> very low level, or have profound disabilities. We've already developed a
> specialized PE class where students with severe disabilities are partnered
> with regular ed students to play games and exercise - it's been a
> wonderful success.
>
> I've had students with severe disabilities mixed into my regular art
> classes the past 2 years, and I often feel like they get neglected. Yes,
> they have aides with them - and yes, I work with them individually as much
> as I can, but it's extremely hard with 25 regular ed students in the room
> who also need attention and help.
>
> I've been approached by one of the SPED teachers about developing an art
> class similar to the PE class they have - where the severely impaired kids
> get partnered with regular ed students to help them. I often do that in
> my the art classes they're in now, and while the "regular" kids are
> usually great helpers, they enrolled in the class expecting to be able to
> do their own individual art, and sometimes they just want to do their own
> work (totally understandable). I was thinking that it would be a great
> idea to have a class specifically set aside - where the regular ed kids
> know going into it that the focus will be on helping the SPED kids.
>
> Any thoughts? I'd like to be able to present the idea to admin in the
> very near future.
>
> Heather Hayes
> Visual Art
> Ridgeview Middle School
> 512-424-8471
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: weblogs
> From: "Jen Ellis" <just.jen.ellis@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:26:41 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 5
>
> Chantal-
>
> Some blogs only allow comments from those who have a blog with the
> same vendor. Others allow anyone to comment. Both almost always have
> the ability to delete comments. So do you want your students to be set
> up to have their own blog? Do you want anyone to see and comment?
> There are pros and cons to both.
>
> You might also want to look at image loading. Some have unlimited
> storage, others have a certain amount of space.
>
> I would definitely try to create one.
>
> Great Comments:
> http://www.weblogg-ed.com/why-weblogs
>
> Jen
> Cleveland, OH
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Sketchbooks
> From: "Maureen" <mmorris@theleonardo.org>
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:58:42 -0700
> X-Message-Number: 6
>
> Sketchbooks are invaluable and underutilized, and not just in the art
> room.
> Our doors are not yet open, The Leonardo is a fully interactive, hands-on
> art, culture and science center inspired by Leonardo's ability to
> integrate
> across art and science. We will exist in one of two international style
> buildings here in Salt Lake City. Located on library square, our main
> library won the award for 'Library of the Year' 2006. Library Square is
> the
> second most visited site in the state. We are very excited since we are
> forging ahead with a new model for museums as well as integrate
> sustainability into the design and operation. Anyway, we have a sketchbook
> project on our educational resources page if anyone is interested. It is
> an
> evolving project which eventually will have flash drive interfaces. In the
> next few months I am hoping to have student sketchbooks displayed along
> side
> the lesson plans. Feel free to contact me with any questions.
> www.theleonardo.org
>
> Maureen Morris
> Arts Ed Specialist
>
> The Leonardo
> 210 East 400 South
> Salt Lake City, Utah 84111
> (801) 531-9800
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: African Art Lesson - Granary Doors - Personal Identity (Elem-MS)
> From: "Judy Decker" <judy.decker@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:32:01 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 7
>
> Dear Art Educators,
>
> Annamae Heimen submitted her lesson for African Granary Doors -
> Personal and Cultural Identity:
> http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/Heiman-doors.htm
>
> This lesson was done with 6th grade - but is also suitable for upper
> elementary.
>
> Might be interesting to try it with clay relief (using carving and
> additive techniques) - Then give finished work a wood look patina
> (using brown and black acrylic paint). Make door and door frame from
> clay slab - wire door on after firing and painting.
>
> I have her lesson linked to elementary and middle school lesson page.
>
> Her lesson also includes a mini lesson in perspective drawing.
>
> Judy Decker
> --
> Incredible Art Department
> http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/
> Incredible Art Resources
> http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: RE: Early finishers
> From: "Deb"<surreal70@myway.com>
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:31:08 -0500 (EST)
> X-Message-Number: 8
>
>
>
>
> my kids enjoy the tessellations coloring sheets. while i am not a big fan
> of coloring, they have to visaulize patterns and pick them out while
> coloring. deb kent
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Sun 02/18, Marybeth Bortzfield < zbort@comcast.net > wrote:
>
> From: Marybeth Bortzfield [mailto: zbort@comcast.net]
>
> To: teacherartexchange@lists.pub.getty.edu
>
> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:19:42 -0500
>
> Subject: [teacherartexchange] Early finishers
>
>
>
> Help! I need suggestions for upper elementary students, particularly
> grade <br>5,<br>who finish a project early and then choose to sit and
> socialize or waste <br>materials. I have noticed that my students
> have<br>become very social rather then putting forth their best
> effort.<br><br>I have plenty of independent opportunities, a closet full
> of materials and <br>mediums that may be used<br>during "free time", a
> sketchbook suggestion can filled with idea starters, <br>individual
> sketchbooks, tear sheets in binders of<br>magazine photographs of animals,
> people, sea life, etc. all organized and <br>labeled. Art history books
> and tons of how to draw<br>books; and cans of modeling clay (which tends
> to be let's waste time <br>center).<br><br>Does anyone have ideas or
> suggestions for me as to how to keep my students <br>independently working
> rather than just hanging out and merely scribbling to <br>look busy? I
> must add I am fortunate that they are not discipline problems,
> <br>nor are they rude, I just feel they could use their time more
> effectively. <br>My younger grades are always enthusiastic and creatively
> productive during <br>their free-time, what can I do to keep my older
> elementary kids engaged?<br><br>I'm thinking of requiring early finishers
> to choose one of the many art <br>reproductions I have hanging around the
> room and to draw from it, then I <br>could hang the reproduction and the
> student work in the hallway with a focus <br>on both artists. Any
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> Subject: A good story about an "at-risk" student
> From: Heather_Hayes@roundrockisd.org
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:44:10 -0600
> X-Message-Number: 9
>
> I have a 6th grade student that has been ID'd as "at risk" because
> he has failed the state's standardized tests, and math is one of his
> weakest points. While we were doing clay, I made a large coil pot
> of my own that all the kids have been incredibly impressed with.
> This student came up to me during class one day and we had the
> following conversation:
>
> C: "Miss Hayes, how much does a box of clay cost?"
> Me: "Well, I'm not exactly sure, but I think you can get 50 lbs of
> it for about $20."
> C: "How much clay did you use in your project?"
> Me: "I don't know - probably 10 lbs."
> C: "So...you could make 5 of those with a box of clay."
> Me: "Yeah, that's about right."
> C: "And how much do you think you could sell it for?"
> Me: "I don't know for sure - but I could probably get about $50 for
> it. Hand made clay items usually sell for a lot, especially if
> you're a well known artist, which I'm not."
> C: "So...you could sell 5 of these pots for 50 each. That's $250.
> And your cost was only $20, so you'd make $230 in profit! That's
> Awesome!"
> Me: "You're right, C."
> C: "How much time did you spend making it?"
> Me: "Ummm...I don't know for sure. Maybe 5 hours."
> C: "So, 5 hours for each one - that's 25 hours. So...$230 in 25
> hours - that's about $9 dollars an hour, right? And if you could
> sell them for more, you'd make more money per hour!"
> Me: "I guess so, I'm not sure about the math. Let's get a
> calculator and check."
>
> So we checked it, and he was right.
>
> Me: "C, you're a walking word problem today! Good job using those
> math skills!"
>
>
> Isn't that awesome???
>
> Heather
>
>
>
> Heather Hayes
> Visual Art
> Ridgeview Middle School
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: YAM activities calendar
> From: "go4art@juno.com" <go4art@juno.com>
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:45:41 GMT
> X-Message-Number: 10
>
> Hi All, as part of Youth Art Month I developed a calendar of =
>
> activities that require basic supplies. Many relate to artists on =
>
> their birthdays! I send it to teachers in the building for them to =
>
> use, post, hand out to students, etc. I also give them out during our =
>
> Arts In Action night and other venues. =
>
>
> Thought I would share. Feel free to use, modify, distribute, etc. =
>
>
> I don't think that I can send here as an attachment?! I have posted on =
>
> my web page if you would like to get it from there. It is in both =
>
> Word and as a PDF....hopefully fonts stay the same. It is part way =
>
> down on the left. http://www.rrms.wlwv.k12.or.us/KielingL/YAM/07.htm
>
> creatively, Linda
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: A good story about an "at-risk" student
> From: "Amy Broady" <AmyBroady@alumni.duke.edu>
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:02:21 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 11
>
> Heather, that is a wonderful story! I am so glad you shared it with us.
> Thank you!
>
> Amy in TN
>
>
>
>
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