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> TEACHERARTEXCHANGE Digest for Wednesday, February 28, 2007.
>
> 1. Re:Question about digital entries ??
> 2. Re: Re: Question about digital entries ??
> 3. Re: Re: Question about digital entries ??
> 4. thoughts about a SPED art class
> 5. Re: weblogs
> 6. Sketchbooks
> 7. African Art Lesson - Granary Doors - Personal Identity (Elem-MS)
> 8. RE: Early finishers
> 9. A good story about an "at-risk" student
> 10. YAM activities calendar
> 11. Re: A good story about an "at-risk" student
>
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> Subject: Re:Question about digital entries ??
> From: Donna Pauler <paulerlist@sbcglobal.net>
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 07:49:35 -0600
> X-Message-Number: 1
>
> Woody
> Resolution makes no difference. To tell the size of an image look at
> the total number of pixels and bit depth.
> You can set up a blank document in Photoshop (or whatever program you
> use) and put in the number of pixels across and horizontal and
> vertical. Then put in resolution...frequency of pixels per inch. No
> matter what number of pixels per inch you put in the total is the
> same defined by the number of pixels both horizontal and vertical.
> The dots per inch are only redistributing the number of pixels in the
> image. It is either compressing all the pixels into a smaller space
> or allowing them to be bigger (fewer) in the same amount of space.
> Bit depth (RGB, Grayscale, or Bit Map) also makes a difference is the
> total file size. I got to about 14 kb with a file set up at at the
> size you gave (4000 dpi) at bit map mode (black white only) These
> type files could be saved as GIF files (lossless file format).
> Hope that helps.
> Donna
>
> On Mar 1, 2007, at 1:01 AM, TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group
> digest wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Subject: Question about digital entries ??
>> From: Woody Duncan <woodyduncan@comcast.net>
>> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:27:51 -0700
>> X-Message-Number: 8
>>
>> Sorry for the long explanation. My question is at the end.
>>
>> I'm a bit perplexed. The NMWS has for a couple of years been
>> accepting (only) digital entries for our juried exhibits.
>> We do this via e-mail and later send the jpegs on to our
>> juror on a CD. It is working fine, sort of. There has been a
>> learning curve for some of our members. For the last two
>> exhibits, I have served as file manager. I download the jpegs
>> to my computer and put together a spread sheet.
>>
>> We planned this change to digital carefully. We set these standards
>> for entries:
>> jpeg only
>> 72 dpi
>> 700 pixels on the longest dimension (or as close as possible)
>> file name convention:
>> first 4 letters last name
>> first 4 letters first name
>> 2 digit month
>> 2 digit year (of exhibit)
>> A, B, or C for 1st, 2nd and 3rd entry
>> Example: duncwood0507A
>>
>> Of course not every entry follows the guidelines and I'm too nice a
>> guy
>> so I fix them or explain how to submit a corrected entry. Too many
>> people
>> try to do it themselves rather than get help from someone who knows
>> how.
>>
>> Now, finally my perplexing question: After the last exhibit I was
>> convinced
>> by others that the 72 dpi was not important. So I quit being
>> concerned that
>> some are 75, 96, 180 or 300. The monitor shows all those as if they
>> were 72.
>> If the image size is near 700 pixels on the longest side they will
>> all appear
>> similar to our juror. But today I got two entries at 4000 dpi. I have
>> no idea
>> how the digital pic was created. Will it matter ? If it's going to
>> look OK
>> then I guess it's no different than 180 or 300.
>>
>> It's longest dimension is only 480 pixels so I can't reduce the
>> resolution
>> in photoshop because it will just get unbelievably small.
>>
>> More groups are going to digital entries. I believe the standard is
>> 72dpi.
>> If our members send entries to other competitions that do not meet
>> every
>> criteria won't they be rejected ? That's my real concern. If anyone
>> can
>> share their wisdom with me I'd appreciate it.
>> Woody
>>
>> Woody Duncan woodyduncan@comcast.net
>>
>> Invitation to my exhibitions
>> http://www.taospaint.com/Painted/Horse.html
>>
>> January 19, 2009 Be Patience America
>>
>> Join the Campaign Now
>> John Edwards for President
>> http://johnedwards.com/splash/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Subject: Re: Question about digital entries ??
>> From: <rpopek@verizon.net>
>> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:47:23 -0600 (CST)
>> X-Message-Number: 9
>>
>> From what I know the computer screen will show a picture at 72dpi
>> no matter what the original resolution is. The problem with a
>> higher resolution is sending a photo via e-mail and the file size
>> you have to store on your hard drive takes up far more space.
>> Resolution is essentially for printing. A 72dpi will not print as
>> an 8x10 as nicely as a 300dpi. Most home printers will not handle a
>> resolution of larger than 300dpi Why they would send you a file at
>> 4000 is beyond me? For your purposes of viewing them on a computer
>> screen higher resolutions are not necessary Does this help? Hope so.
>> Renee Popek
>>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Re: Question about digital entries ??
> From: rpopek@verizon.net
> Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2007 07:56:18 -0600 (CST)
> X-Message-Number: 2
>
> The 4000dpi sounds very strange to me? The higher the resolution the
> higher=
> the file size so I'm not sure whats going on with that picture? Again
> reso=
> lution is generally for printing. In order to know what they did I'd have
> t=
> o see it in photoshop. However if you use the crop tool you can set the
> siz=
> e and the resolution to whatever it is you want. The pictures dimensions
> ca=
> n be smaller and the resolution still high then photoshop asks you file
> siz=
> e before you save and you can choose high medium or low. If they choose
> low=
> or medium then you can have a high resolution with a low file size Not
> sur=
> e why you would want to do this? I think they just didn't know what they
> we=
> re doing. My guess.
> Another concern that might be interesting is that different monitors show
> c=
> olors differently. I can use photoshop to enhance the colors of a painting
> =
> (and I often do that when putting students work on the web) to just show
> it=
> at it's best. I tend to want to brighten things up a bit. The original
> oft=
> en looks less illuminated when not on a monitor. =20
> I just got my Artists magazine, the April issue. They have an article in
> =
> it that addresses just what you are considering. I looked at it briefly
> thi=
> s morning before heading off to work. I think it has some good
> information.
> Renee
>
>
>
>>From: Woody Duncan <woodyduncan@comcast.net>
>>Date: 2007/02/28 Wed PM 06:14:17 CST
>>To: TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group
>><teacherartexchange@lists.pub.gett=
> y.edu>
>>Subject: Re: [teacherartexchange] Question about digital entries ??
>
>>Renee, Thanks -
>>I follow what you are telling me.
>>We also say we will not except a file size
>>larger than 500 K. Because of the space problem
>>you mentioned. I'm looking at one image now.
>>It is 4000 dpi, 400 x 293 pixels yet the file size is only 10.5 KB.
>>Is that possible ? I thought the greater the dpi the much higher
>>the file size. I have other images that meet the requirements
>>yet have much higher files ????
>>=09=09Woody
>>
>>On Feb 28, 2007, at 4:47 PM, <rpopek@verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> From what I know the computer screen will show a picture at 72dpi =20
>>> no matter what the original resolution is. The problem with a =20
>>> higher resolution is sending a photo via e-mail and the file size =20
>>> you have to store on your hard drive takes up far more space. =20
>>> Resolution is essentially for printing. A 72dpi will not print as =20
>>> an 8x10 as nicely as a 300dpi. Most home printers will not handle a =20
>>> resolution of larger than 300dpi Why they would send you a file at =20
>>> 4000 is beyond me? For your purposes of viewing them on a computer =20
>>> screen higher resolutions are not necessary Does this help? Hope so.
>>> Renee Popek
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Woody Duncan <woodyduncan@comcast.net>
>>>> Date: 2007/02/28 Wed PM 05:27:51 CST
>>>> To: TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group =20
>>>> <teacherartexchange@lists.pub.getty.edu>
>>>> Subject: [teacherartexchange] Question about digital entries ??
>>>
>>>> Sorry for the long explanation. My question is at the end.
>>>>
>>>> I'm a bit perplexed. The NMWS has for a couple of years been
>>>> accepting (only) digital entries for our juried exhibits.
>>>> We do this via e-mail and later send the jpegs on to our
>>>> juror on a CD. It is working fine, sort of. There has been a
>>>> learning curve for some of our members. For the last two
>>>> exhibits, I have served as file manager. I download the jpegs
>>>> to my computer and put together a spread sheet.
>>>>
>>>> We planned this change to digital carefully. We set these standards
>>>> for entries:
>>>> jpeg only
>>>> 72 dpi
>>>> 700 pixels on the longest dimension (or as close as possible)
>>>> file name convention:
>>>> first 4 letters last name
>>>> first 4 letters first name
>>>> 2 digit month
>>>> 2 digit year (of exhibit)
>>>> A, B, or C for 1st, 2nd and 3rd entry
>>>> Example: duncwood0507A
>>>>
>>>> Of course not every entry follows the guidelines and I'm too nice =20
>>>> a guy
>>>> so I fix them or explain how to submit a corrected entry. Too many
>>>> people
>>>> try to do it themselves rather than get help from someone who =20
>>>> knows how.
>>>>
>>>> Now, finally my perplexing question: After the last exhibit I was
>>>> convinced
>>>> by others that the 72 dpi was not important. So I quit being
>>>> concerned that
>>>> some are 75, 96, 180 or 300. The monitor shows all those as if they
>>>> were 72.
>>>> If the image size is near 700 pixels on the longest side they will
>>>> all appear
>>>> similar to our juror. But today I got two entries at 4000 dpi. I have
>>>> no idea
>>>> how the digital pic was created. Will it matter ? If it's going to
>>>> look OK
>>>> then I guess it's no different than 180 or 300.
>>>>
>>>> It's longest dimension is only 480 pixels so I can't reduce the
>>>> resolution
>>>> in photoshop because it will just get unbelievably small.
>>>>
>>>> More groups are going to digital entries. I believe the standard is
>>>> 72dpi.
>>>> If our members send entries to other competitions that do not meet =20
>>>> every
>>>> criteria won't they be rejected ? That's my real concern. If =20
>>>> anyone can
>>>> share their wisdom with me I'd appreciate it.
>>>> Woody
>>>>
>>>> Woody Duncan woodyduncan@comcast.net
>>>>
>>>> Invitation to my exhibitions
>>>> http://www.taospaint.com/Painted/Horse.html
>>>>
>>>> January 19, 2009 Be Patience America
>>>>
>>>> Join the Campaign Now
>>>> John Edwards for President
>>>> http://johnedwards.com/splash/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>Woody, Retired in Albuquerque
>> mailto:woodyduncan@comcast.net
>>
>>35 Quality Middle School Art Lessons
>>in powerpoint format, on one CD $17 (includes shipping)
>>http://www.taospaint.com/QualityLessons.html
>>Ordering Address: PO Box 91703
>>Albuquerque, NM 87199-1703
>>
>>=93The function of the overwhelming majority of your artwork
>>is simply to teach you how to make the small fraction
>>of your artwork that soars.=94 from: =93Art & Fear=94
>>
>>Woody's Watercolor Portfolio:
>>http://www.taospaint.com/Portfolio/Watercolors.html
>>
>>Invitation to my exhibitions
>>http://www.taospaint.com/Painted/Horse.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Subject: Re: Re: Question about digital entries ??
> From: "Jen Ellis" <just.jen.ellis@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:19:29 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 3
>
> Donna and Renee have hit it spot on. Resolution higher than 72dpi is
> not necessary for web viewing. The person should not be sending in a
> file of that resolution. Working in print the standard is usually
> 300dpi, it may change to 600dpi at some point, but I doubt any
> printers could even utilize the quality of a 4000dpi file.
>
> If you are having problems with resizing the file a quick fix is
> taking a screen shot, pasting it into a graphics program and resaving.
>
> For your question:
> If our members send entries to other competitions that do not meet every
> criteria won't they be rejected ?
>
> Most definitely yes. It's an easy way for them to weed out entries.
> I've had it happen to friends. Directions must be followed very
> carefully. It is the same as if you had to mail in a photograph. If
> you sent in a huge picture it would get set aside. Graduate school is
> the same.
>
> Jen
> Cleveland, OH
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: thoughts about a SPED art class
> From: Heather_Hayes@roundrockisd.org
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:12:59 -0600
> X-Message-Number: 4
>
> My middle school has a high population of SPED students, many of which are
> very low level, or have profound disabilities. We've already developed a
> specialized PE class where students with severe disabilities are partnered
> with regular ed students to play games and exercise - it's been a
> wonderful success.
>
> I've had students with severe disabilities mixed into my regular art
> classes the past 2 years, and I often feel like they get neglected. Yes,
> they have aides with them - and yes, I work with them individually as much
> as I can, but it's extremely hard with 25 regular ed students in the room
> who also need attention and help.
>
> I've been approached by one of the SPED teachers about developing an art
> class similar to the PE class they have - where the severely impaired kids
> get partnered with regular ed students to help them. I often do that in
> my the art classes they're in now, and while the "regular" kids are
> usually great helpers, they enrolled in the class expecting to be able to
> do their own individual art, and sometimes they just want to do their own
> work (totally understandable). I was thinking that it would be a great
> idea to have a class specifically set aside - where the regular ed kids
> know going into it that the focus will be on helping the SPED kids.
>
> Any thoughts? I'd like to be able to present the idea to admin in the
> very near future.
>
> Heather Hayes
> Visual Art
> Ridgeview Middle School
> 512-424-8471
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: weblogs
> From: "Jen Ellis" <just.jen.ellis@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 11:26:41 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 5
>
> Chantal-
>
> Some blogs only allow comments from those who have a blog with the
> same vendor. Others allow anyone to comment. Both almost always have
> the ability to delete comments. So do you want your students to be set
> up to have their own blog? Do you want anyone to see and comment?
> There are pros and cons to both.
>
> You might also want to look at image loading. Some have unlimited
> storage, others have a certain amount of space.
>
> I would definitely try to create one.
>
> Great Comments:
> http://www.weblogg-ed.com/why-weblogs
>
> Jen
> Cleveland, OH
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Sketchbooks
> From: "Maureen" <mmorris@theleonardo.org>
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 09:58:42 -0700
> X-Message-Number: 6
>
> Sketchbooks are invaluable and underutilized, and not just in the art
> room.
> Our doors are not yet open, The Leonardo is a fully interactive, hands-on
> art, culture and science center inspired by Leonardo's ability to
> integrate
> across art and science. We will exist in one of two international style
> buildings here in Salt Lake City. Located on library square, our main
> library won the award for 'Library of the Year' 2006. Library Square is
> the
> second most visited site in the state. We are very excited since we are
> forging ahead with a new model for museums as well as integrate
> sustainability into the design and operation. Anyway, we have a sketchbook
> project on our educational resources page if anyone is interested. It is
> an
> evolving project which eventually will have flash drive interfaces. In the
> next few months I am hoping to have student sketchbooks displayed along
> side
> the lesson plans. Feel free to contact me with any questions.
> www.theleonardo.org
>
> Maureen Morris
> Arts Ed Specialist
>
> The Leonardo
> 210 East 400 South
> Salt Lake City, Utah 84111
> (801) 531-9800
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: African Art Lesson - Granary Doors - Personal Identity (Elem-MS)
> From: "Judy Decker" <judy.decker@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:32:01 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 7
>
> Dear Art Educators,
>
> Annamae Heimen submitted her lesson for African Granary Doors -
> Personal and Cultural Identity:
> http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/Heiman-doors.htm
>
> This lesson was done with 6th grade - but is also suitable for upper
> elementary.
>
> Might be interesting to try it with clay relief (using carving and
> additive techniques) - Then give finished work a wood look patina
> (using brown and black acrylic paint). Make door and door frame from
> clay slab - wire door on after firing and painting.
>
> I have her lesson linked to elementary and middle school lesson page.
>
> Her lesson also includes a mini lesson in perspective drawing.
>
> Judy Decker
> --
> Incredible Art Department
> http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/
> Incredible Art Resources
> http://www.princetonol.com/groups/iad/lessons/middle/
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: RE: Early finishers
> From: "Deb"<surreal70@myway.com>
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:31:08 -0500 (EST)
> X-Message-Number: 8
>
>
>
>
> my kids enjoy the tessellations coloring sheets. while i am not a big fan
> of coloring, they have to visaulize patterns and pick them out while
> coloring. deb kent
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Sun 02/18, Marybeth Bortzfield < zbort@comcast.net > wrote:
>
> From: Marybeth Bortzfield [mailto: zbort@comcast.net]
>
> To: teacherartexchange@lists.pub.getty.edu
>
> Date: Sun, 18 Feb 2007 11:19:42 -0500
>
> Subject: [teacherartexchange] Early finishers
>
>
>
> Help! I need suggestions for upper elementary students, particularly
> grade <br>5,<br>who finish a project early and then choose to sit and
> socialize or waste <br>materials. I have noticed that my students
> have<br>become very social rather then putting forth their best
> effort.<br><br>I have plenty of independent opportunities, a closet full
> of materials and <br>mediums that may be used<br>during "free time", a
> sketchbook suggestion can filled with idea starters, <br>individual
> sketchbooks, tear sheets in binders of<br>magazine photographs of animals,
> people, sea life, etc. all organized and <br>labeled. Art history books
> and tons of how to draw<br>books; and cans of modeling clay (which tends
> to be let's waste time <br>center).<br><br>Does anyone have ideas or
> suggestions for me as to how to keep my students <br>independently working
> rather than just hanging out and merely scribbling to <br>look busy? I
> must add I am fortunate that they are not discipline problems,
> <br>nor are they rude, I just feel they could use their time more
> effectively. <br>My younger grades are always enthusiastic and creatively
> productive during <br>their free-time, what can I do to keep my older
> elementary kids engaged?<br><br>I'm thinking of requiring early finishers
> to choose one of the many art <br>reproductions I have hanging around the
> room and to draw from it, then I <br>could hang the reproduction and the
> student work in the hallway with a focus <br>on both artists. Any
> comments?<br><br>Thank you,<br>Marybeth <br><br><br>---<br>To unsubscribe
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> Subject: A good story about an "at-risk" student
> From: Heather_Hayes@roundrockisd.org
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 15:44:10 -0600
> X-Message-Number: 9
>
> I have a 6th grade student that has been ID'd as "at risk" because
> he has failed the state's standardized tests, and math is one of his
> weakest points. While we were doing clay, I made a large coil pot
> of my own that all the kids have been incredibly impressed with.
> This student came up to me during class one day and we had the
> following conversation:
>
> C: "Miss Hayes, how much does a box of clay cost?"
> Me: "Well, I'm not exactly sure, but I think you can get 50 lbs of
> it for about $20."
> C: "How much clay did you use in your project?"
> Me: "I don't know - probably 10 lbs."
> C: "So...you could make 5 of those with a box of clay."
> Me: "Yeah, that's about right."
> C: "And how much do you think you could sell it for?"
> Me: "I don't know for sure - but I could probably get about $50 for
> it. Hand made clay items usually sell for a lot, especially if
> you're a well known artist, which I'm not."
> C: "So...you could sell 5 of these pots for 50 each. That's $250.
> And your cost was only $20, so you'd make $230 in profit! That's
> Awesome!"
> Me: "You're right, C."
> C: "How much time did you spend making it?"
> Me: "Ummm...I don't know for sure. Maybe 5 hours."
> C: "So, 5 hours for each one - that's 25 hours. So...$230 in 25
> hours - that's about $9 dollars an hour, right? And if you could
> sell them for more, you'd make more money per hour!"
> Me: "I guess so, I'm not sure about the math. Let's get a
> calculator and check."
>
> So we checked it, and he was right.
>
> Me: "C, you're a walking word problem today! Good job using those
> math skills!"
>
>
> Isn't that awesome???
>
> Heather
>
>
>
> Heather Hayes
> Visual Art
> Ridgeview Middle School
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: YAM activities calendar
> From: "go4art@juno.com" <go4art@juno.com>
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:45:41 GMT
> X-Message-Number: 10
>
> Hi All, as part of Youth Art Month I developed a calendar of =
>
> activities that require basic supplies. Many relate to artists on =
>
> their birthdays! I send it to teachers in the building for them to =
>
> use, post, hand out to students, etc. I also give them out during our =
>
> Arts In Action night and other venues. =
>
>
> Thought I would share. Feel free to use, modify, distribute, etc. =
>
>
> I don't think that I can send here as an attachment?! I have posted on =
>
> my web page if you would like to get it from there. It is in both =
>
> Word and as a PDF....hopefully fonts stay the same. It is part way =
>
> down on the left. http://www.rrms.wlwv.k12.or.us/KielingL/YAM/07.htm
>
> creatively, Linda
>
>
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>
> Subject: Re: A good story about an "at-risk" student
> From: "Amy Broady" <AmyBroady@alumni.duke.edu>
> Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 21:02:21 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 11
>
> Heather, that is a wonderful story! I am so glad you shared it with us.
> Thank you!
>
> Amy in TN
>
>
>
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