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RE: artistic integrity


From: Hillmer, Jan (HillmJan_at_TeacherArtExchange)
Date: Fri Mar 11 2005 - 06:13:26 PST

Good point, Pam. Also, I think back to the original episode and how the
appropriating teacher said that she'd use that technique in her class.
Had she simply said things a bit differently, perhaps we'd not even be
having this conversation. What you say is important, but how you say it
is also very important.


-----Original Message-----
From: Pam Wellington []
Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 8:34 AM
To: ArtsEdNet Talk
Subject: artistic integrity

There were so many posts on this topic, and most of them were stating
obvious. Of course every artist uses ideas from other works. There is
new thing under the sun. Creativity is not about coming up with
brand new, it is about taking what already exists or has been done and
putting a new spin on it, a new variation, a new point of view. There
absolutely nothing wrong about using other ideas from other sources.
see something you admire, you incorporate it into your own work as "part
something you are working on. Or you see a great lesson plan and you use
"with the permission of the originator", and adapt it to your students,
to your own ideas. There is a huge difference between that sharing of
ideas, blending and merging of ideas and techniques, and the compliment
being copied, and the outright ripping off "whole cloth" of someone
creation without their permission. One is a compliment, fine, legal, the

other is wrong, sleazy, dishonest, and in many cases, downright illegal
pladgerism. Sometimes the line is fuzzy in this art world of post-modern

"appropriation", but most of the time the line in the sand is pretty
We know when we cross it and we know when others do too. This site is a

perfect example. We all post our lesson plans which we know work for
with the knowledge and hope that other art teachers will use our tried
true lessons in their own classroom. I love the idea that some of you
there are in your classrooms hundreds of miles across the country trying
my mixed media lesson to their high school students. I tried the lovely

shaded shell lesson with my drawing students last semester and it worked

quite well. But I didn't copy any of the works and put my name on it,
allow my students to copy the examples and sign their name to it. Big,