At 08:57 AM 3/13/02 -0800, you wrote: >. . . . could he use some wire for an armature and leave it to melt. out in >the kiln. Would this work? >susie Wire is probably not suitable in clay to be fired because the clay has to dry before firing. It shrinks as it dries. Since the wire does not shrink, the clay cracks. Simple forms can be made around wads of paper that compress as the clay shrinks. Punch a hole in the bottom to vent the piece. The one exception might be to use paperclay, but I have not tried this myself. Paperclay has lots of paper pulp mixed with the clay and it may dry without cracking. It is much more forgiving. It can be fired like regular clay. I would test it with a very simple quick form of the same size before spending lots of time on a figure. Ordinary steel wire will be damaged by the firing, but that may not be a problem. Protect the kiln bottom or kiln shelf with a slab of fired clay to be on the safe side. There are ads in Ceramics Monthly to buy paperclay, or you can make your own by blending paper in water and mixing it with clay. Sculptors do work on metal armatures with Plasticine (oil based clay) (or pottery clay that is not permitted to dry). These are not fired, but piece molds are made from them. The sculpture is then cast in the molds. Marvin ---