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Re: marbleizing paper

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Jerry Vilenski (jvilensk)
Sat, 27 Jun 1998 22:28:09 -0700


artsednet-digest wrote:
>
> artsednet-digest Friday, June 26 1998 Volume 02 : Number 826
>
> This edition includes :
> Re: Need names/info on Hispanic artists
> A Pear in a Bottle
> Re: Marbleizing paper
> Hispanic Artists
> Bouncing message
> Wanda Wulz
> Re: Need names/info on Hispanic artists
> Re: clay recommendations
> Teacher's Guides
> Re: artsednet-digest V2 #825
> Re: Bouncing message
> Debates?
> Re: Marbleizing paper
> Re: Bouncing message
> Re: clay recommendations/company contact/techniques for air dry
> Re: Marbleizing paper
> Re: Need names/info on Hispanic artists
> Re: Debates?
> Re: Bouncing Messages
> Re: Marbleizing paper
> just testing
> starch in marblizing technique
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 08:41:19
> From: Jerry & Anne Carman-Hendel <hendel>
> Subject: Re: Need names/info on Hispanic artists
>
> At 10:55 PM 6/25/98 EDT, you wrote:
> >I'm going to be teaching in a middle school this coming school year and it is
> >about 48% Hispanic. The principal has asked me to come up with some Hispanic
> >artists who have "made it" in the art world. The idea is to give the
> students
> >some real life role models. Any help you can give me will be appreciated.
> >Thanks.
> >
> >Annette Cairl
> >
> How about Picasso, Diego Rivera, Frida Kahlo and other mural artists?
> Also, you might want to check out the art of Mexico as it has some unique
> art forms such as yarn painting ( also called ofrnedas and nearikas) and
> bead work, check for web sites on the Huichol artwork. Also, the Cuna tribe
> in Panama create molas.
>
> I recently did some searching and found these web sites which I thought
> were helpful and provided some links, too.
>
> http://www.diegorivera.com
>
> http://www.cascaade.net/kahlo.html
>
> http://www.mexico.web.com.mx/english
>
> http://www.mola.com
>
> http://www.humanities-interactive.org/
>
> http://www.mexconnect.com
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> Anne C-H in the cornfields of Illinois
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:01:39
> From: Jerry & Anne Carman-Hendel <hendel>
> Subject: A Pear in a Bottle
>
> Joan, Joy & Louise,
> Thank you for responding to my question about A Pear in a Bottle. I did
> find information on the internet and found some good pictures. It does have
> crutches holding it up and looks like some netting, too. In the class I was
> taking, it came up as a problem solving task, and how our students may find
> some information unbelievable.
> Here are the web sites if you're interested. After my search, I had the
> strangest desire for chardonnay! :-) Many thanks again.
>
> Anne C-H
>
> http://www.ourniche.com/Kammer_pear.htm
>
> http://www.scotch.com/wwwboard/messages/111.shtml
>
> http://www.newscientist.com/lastword/answers/1wa383g.html
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 10:50:13 EDT
> From: Maahmaah
> Subject: Re: Marbleizing paper
>
> In a message dated 98-06-26 02:27:23 EDT, DESIGN18 writes:
>
> << Does anyone know substitute ingredients for the expensive ingredients you
> add
> to the water and paint when marbleizing? >>
>
> Hi everyone,
> I am interested in this too. I know the craft of marbling paper has very
> specific ingredients--one of them being ox gall (I think??). Anyway, that has
> always scared me away from marbling! It sounds slightly exotic and quite
> expensive. Then, just recently, I heard of someone marbling paper with just
> some water mixed with art paste (or wall paper paste). I think they got the
> solution to the point of a thin clear jel state. That way it held the paint
> on top of it but let it spread and be manipulated at the same time. If anyone
> has any experience with this simpler form of marbling, please! I would like
> to know your methods also! Otherwise I will be doing MANY hit and miss
> experiments of my own--which could be a lot of fun IF I had the time!
> Thanks,
> Lee
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 09:53:19 -0700
> From: Kathy Talley-Jones <talleyjones>
> Subject: Hispanic Artists
>
> Re the query on Hispanic artists
> You are in luck--there's much available on ArtsEdNet for a start. For
> example, there are lesson plans and information on Jesus Moroles, a
> contemporary sculptor. There is also much background and lesson ideas on
> Luis Jimenez, also a sculptor, as part of the Multicultural Art Print
> Series on Mexican American Artists. Check under the Lesson Plans and
> Curriculum Ideas section
> http://www.artsednet.getty.edu/education/teacherartexchange/resources/index.html.
>
> Also, check out Chicana/Chicano Space developed by Dr. Mary Erickson and
> the Hispanic Resource Center at Arizona State University.
>
> http://mati.eas.asu.edu:8421/ChicanArte/html_pages/Protest-home.html
>
> There are many many other resources out there--but these are good places
> to start.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:38:34 EDT
> From: Maahmaah
> Subject: Bouncing message
>
> In a message dated 98-06-26 12:31:23 EDT, Mailer-Daemon.us writes:
>
> << Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to:
>
> Cheryl Firestien (Mailbox or Conference is full.) >>
>
> Hey, Cheryl!
> Clean out your mailbox!:-)
>
> This is the third or fourth time messages are bouncing back to me from you!
> - -Lee
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:47:33 -0500 (CDT)
> From: amanda clarke <clarkea@s-cwis.unomaha.edu>
> Subject: Wanda Wulz
>
> Please help!
>
> I am looking for information on a photographer, Wanda Wulz. In
> particular, I am looking for information on her photograph "Lo & Gatto".
>
> I have tried the internet, but all I have found so far is a reveiw of an
> entire show dedicated to women photographers. (Nice info, but not what I
> need.)
>
> I am interested in background information, and reviews of her work by art
> critics.
>
> Also, I am interested in a, I believe Baroque artist, who did work similar
> to the photo. He made numerous sketches and drawings of people/animals.
> If I remeber correctly, the idea was to show the person's personality by
> incorporating parts of an animal with similar characteristics.
>
> In case you have not seen the photo, it is a self-portrait of her and her
> cat. She combined the two negatives to create the image. I absolutely
> love the idea.
>
> Can anyone help?
>
> Thanks,
> Amanda
> clarkea@s-cwis.unomaha.edu
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:26:02 EDT
> From: Zoomzaam
> Subject: Re: Need names/info on Hispanic artists
>
> There are many but Frida Kahlo & Diego Rivera stand out and are outstanding in
> my mind.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:53:52 -0500
> From: "Jasmine Preston" <jdp30>
> Subject: Re: clay recommendations
>
> Seems like you'll have your hands full. It can be done, though. I taught
> 25min classes from a cart to elementary students for two years. We met once
> a week. If you have your own classroom, you can make sure to have all prep
> work done before they get there to maximize use of your time. I would also
> take advantage of parent volunteers as much as possible. At the elementary
> level, they are much easier to find and they are a lifesaver.
>
> One clay project that I did was puppets. The students made the heads out
> of air-dried clay. They made a round ball and put an opening in the bottom
> large enough for their finger and some fabric. They painted the heads and
> then I sprayed them with a sealer to protect them. We then made clothing.
> I also used the air-dried clay for students to make Egyptian mummies. The
> basic shape was pretty simple and then they could carve in the details.
>
> Don't try to plan projects that you will finish in one class period. Many
> of my projects took weeks to accomplish. Just break it down into steps
> that can be successfully finished in 20 minutes or so. The kids don't mind
> and they will remember well enough from one class to the next what is going
> on. Taking a long time to finish each project also taught them to take them
> time and do a good job.
>
> Hope this helps. Good luck.
>
> Jasmine
> jdp30
>
> - ----------
> > From: Vicki Bean <vickibean>
> > To: artsednet.edu
> > Subject: clay recommendations
> > Date: Friday, June 26, 1998 8:10 AM
> >
> > I am a graphic artist turned art teacher for the coming year.
> >
> > I would like to introduce some clay work to the students (K-12). It's
> > been years since the school has done this due to block scheduling (30
> > minute classes for elementary students) and budget cuts.
> >
> > Although I'm stuck with the 30 minute classes for elementary students,
> > I'm still trying to figure out a way to work it in.
> >
> > The middle and high school students have hour long classes, so time is
> > not really an issue with them.
> >
> > Any suggestions on lesson plans that utilize clay, and can be done in 20
> > minute classes, twice weekly?
> >
> > Any suggestions on materials since we have no kiln?
> >
> > Thank,
> >
> > Vicki Bean
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 14:04:15 -0400
> From: Amy Sundback <AmySundback>
> Subject: Teacher's Guides
>
> Hi all~~
>
> I'm looking for examples of teacher's guides on how to integrate museum
> collections/museum visits into the classroom and curricula. I'm
> interested particularly in 3 things: guides that focus on ancient
> collections; guides that were created with the input of classroom
> teachers; or guides that encourage the non-art teacher to use the art
> museum as a resource.
>
> Have you, as a teacher, collaborated with a museum on a guide like this?
>
> Have you used any guides like this to plan a visit to a museum?
> Do you know of any guides from other museums?
> How about examples that exist on the web?
>
> Any and all responses appreciated (even if they don't fall within my
> particularities!). Thanks in advance.
>
> Amy Sundback
> Project Educator, Art of Discovery
> Worcester Art Museum
> email: amysundback
> http://www.worcesterart.org
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 11:07:01 -0700
> From: "ALPHAME" <ALPHAME>
> Subject: Re: artsednet-digest V2 #825
>
> Eagle Scout
> How about a poster teaching children not to talk to strangers
> not to smoke
> be kind to animals
> do well in school
> Actually he could create a cartoon hero that could teach on separate
> posters these and other safety lessons.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 14:35:00 -0400
> From: "croberts" <b2w6w4kn>
> Subject: Re: Bouncing message
>
> Everytime I send something to ArtsEdNet...I get this message also.
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Maahmaah <Maahmaah>
> To: artsednet.edu <artsednet.edu>
> Date: Friday, June 26, 1998 2:17 PM
> Subject: Bouncing message
>
> >In a message dated 98-06-26 12:31:23 EDT, Mailer-Daemon.us
> writes:
> >
> ><< Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to:
> >
> > Cheryl Firestien (Mailbox or Conference is full.) >>
> >
> >Hey, Cheryl!
> >Clean out your mailbox!:-)
> >
> >This is the third or fourth time messages are bouncing back to me from you!
> >-Lee
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 21:31:12 +0100
> From: "Hoor" <chagall>
> Subject: Debates?
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:29:25 EDT
> From: Juncture
> Subject: Re: Marbleizing paper
>
> Hello Lee-
> I saw once on the Home&Garden channel that You can use Borax in the water -
> I think it was only about a tablespoon per gallon maybe 2 -long time ago-
> don't remember - Maybe You could contact them. I think they were using
> Acrylics...Good Luck - Bill
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:52:56 -0400
> From: John & Sandra Barrick <astroboy>
> Subject: Re: Bouncing message
>
> Me three!! I think it's stopped now. It coincides with my not
> receiving any messages. Do they have brown outs on computers?? Is
> Cheryl Firestein a real person or a domain? Because I don't believe
> that I ever responded to her,yet I've had things bounce back.
> Sandra
>
> croberts wrote:
> >
> > Everytime I send something to ArtsEdNet...I get this message also.
> >
> >
> > >In a message dated 98-06-26 12:31:23 EDT, Mailer-Daemon.us
> > writes:
> > >
> > ><< Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to:
> > >
> > > Cheryl Firestien (Mailbox or Conference is full.) >>
> > >
> > >Hey, Cheryl!
> > >Clean out your mailbox!:-)
> > >
> > >This is the third or fourth time messages are bouncing back to me from you!
> > >-Lee
> > >
>
> - --
> john barrick
> Sandra Barrick
> astroboy
> http://home.fuse.net/astroboy
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:40:14 EDT
> From: Juncture
> Subject: Re: clay recommendations/company contact/techniques for air dry
>
> Hi Vicki,
> Check w/ your local Clay Supplier - I have a kiln but I also order non firing
> clay from them. It costs the same per pound as their regular clay -- it is
> made w/ tree rosin. The company is in Mebane NC near Durham. They are
> Piedmont Pottery Supply/The Man who owns it has an MFA in Ceramics so he could
> tell you if it is available else/where/you live - all the air dry I've ever
> seen in catalogues is expensive as Haggis.
> Their # is 1-800-pie-clay cute huh?
> I have the kids start w/ a 1/2 pound ball of clay I premeasure & weigh w/ a
> food scale
> & tell them to pull head / neck & legs from the clay ball & be sure to taper-
> legs /tell them not to worry about the likeness - the paintjob will make it
> look more like
> a leopard or whatever-I show them Outsider Art /Self Taught/Primative. I would
> avoid the traditional use of break-off-add-on w/ slip b/c water isn't binding
> it- rosin is.
> I had them make an animal they were studying 1st-farm animals/ 2cnd-dinosaurs/
> 3rd-rainforest animals/ 4th-NC animals/ 5th-rain forest animals/ 6th-
> endangered species. Only the 6th used airdry b/c it was for a biome project
> - -so no time to wait for firing-outside of class project. Good Luck!..Bill
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:52:11 EDT
> From: Gail1611
> Subject: Re: Marbleizing paper
>
> Yes there is a chalk you can scrape and let the particles drop into water
> and pick up with water color paper. I saw it at art convention in Chicago.
> It's in my notes somewhere or at school with my ordering supplies. Does
> anyone else remember the name of the chalk? Gail
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:05:28 -0700 (PDT)
> From: carla schiller <charwitt.us>
> Subject: Re: Need names/info on Hispanic artists
>
> frido kahlo and diego rivera come immediately to mind.
> - --carla
>
> Carla Schiller, Esq.
> Teacher, Highly Gifted Magnet
> North Hollywood High School, CA
> e-mail: charwitt.us
> webpage index: http://lausd.k12.ca.us/~charwitt/index.html
> *************************************************************************************
> "When you know a thing, to hold that you know it; and when you do not
> know a thing, to allow that you do not know it--this is knowledge."
> - --Kongzi (Confucius)
> *************************************************************************************
>
> On Thu, 25 Jun 1998 ARTAC wrote:
>
> > I'm going to be teaching in a middle school this coming school year and it is
> > about 48% Hispanic. The principal has asked me to come up with some Hispanic
> > artists who have "made it" in the art world. The idea is to give the students
> > some real life role models. Any help you can give me will be appreciated.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Annette Cairl
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:05:23 -0500
> From: gregjuli
> Subject: Re: Debates?
>
> Hoor wrote:
>
> > Anyone know a chat program or e-mail thing where people talk about or
> > debate about different issues and stuff in art?
> >
> >
> > Dear Hoor,
> >
> > Talk City has a room called Art City for chatting. Although, often
> > the discussion doesn't seem to be about art. But you might want to
> > check it out. They also have Educhat and there are a few art teacher
> > that frequent that chat room.
> > Artfully,
> > MaryB.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 20:01:59 -0400
> From: John & Sandra Barrick <astroboy>
> Subject: Re: Bouncing Messages
>
> Okay this is a paste up because some how I have jinxed myself and
> either
> Croberts,Lee(Maahmaa)or art net is bouncing it back. So I'm just
> sending it to the group and if it bounces back then I'll know.
> Here's the message again:
>
> Me three!! I think it's stopped now. It coincides with my not
> receiving any messages. Do they have brown outs on computers?? Is
> Cheryl Firestein a real person or a domain? Because I don't believe
> that I ever responded to her,yet I've had things bounce back.
> Sandra
>
> croberts wrote:
> >
> > Everytime I send something to ArtsEdNet...I get this message also.
> >
> >
> > >In a message dated 98-06-26 12:31:23 EDT, Mailer-Daemon.us
> > writes:
> > >
> > ><< Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to:
> > >
> > > Cheryl Firestien (Mailbox or Conference is full.) >>
> > >
> > >Hey, Cheryl!
> > >Clean out your mailbox!:-)
> > >
> > >This is the third or fourth time messages are bouncing back to me from you!
> > >-Lee
>
> - --
> john barrick
> Sandra Barrick
> astroboy
> http://home.fuse.net/astroboy
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 19:31:35 -0500
> From: gregjuli
> Subject: Re: Marbleizing paper
>
> DESIGN18 wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know substitute ingredients for the expensive ingredients you add
> > to the water and paint when marbleizing?
>
> Hi all,
> I found a great web site that has printing supplies- Maiwa Handprints Ltd.
> http://www.maiwa.com
> They have workshops, lectures and a catalogue available. They do carry marbling
> supplies along with fabrics, dyes, and other printing stuff. Hope this helps!
> Artfully,
> MaryB.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 21:55:56 -0400
> From: "McGugan" <McGugan>
> Subject: just testing
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 23:27:36 -0400
> From: Kurt Hasselman <kprs>
> Subject: starch in marblizing technique
>
> For everyone who asked:
>
> Take a shallow pan, and pour in a gallon of liquid starch. You can then
> "drop" drops of acrylic paint (watered down so it "drops") onto the
> starch, take a feather or comb, and comb it, or swirl it, and then lay
> the object to be marbleized on top of that and "pull" it off. The colors
> can be removed from the top of the starch with a paper towel, or
> newspaper, the same way you would "clean" in the other methods you have
> seen or used.
>
> The starch can be reused.
>
> I like using starch because I can use my acrylic paints and don't have
> to use oil paints.
>
> We have not only marbleized paper, but plaster sculptures as well using
> the starch method.
>
> San D.
>
> ------------------------------
>
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Lee, I have used two distinctly different methods of marbleizing paper
over the years, with good results from each. The first is done with a
solution of water and carragean, or powdered kelp, called Marbelthix.
It comes in a small container (available from SAX and others). You
simply dissolve the marblethix in a bucket of water and let stand
overnight. I use acrylic airbrush paint for color, because it floats
evenly on the solution. Makes great waterproof sheets in a variety of
colors. For 3-D work, I use a mixture of water and borax, which floats
oil based paint on top. Usually, I use oil-based model paints because
of the intense pigmentation, but thinned oil based house enamels work
also. Simply drip the color onto the surface of the water with a
popscicle stick and dip the object in the water. Works great, but must
be handled with rubber gloves or the oil paint will stain. Hope this
helps---------Jerry