The discusion of art and art ed is one side. Invite your freinds and
stangers taht are artist and not educators( in the formal way) to join
the group and input. We can debate the things we feel are important but
in order to grow we need to communcate with the ones who have been taught
by our system to help us evaluate the system. Invite any artist author
musician etc who you know to imput open up to the others and ourselves so
that we can learn to be better teachers and artist.