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Re: [teacherartexchange] When is it time to be "Mrs. Not Nice"


Date: Mon Jul 18 2005 - 21:11:52 PDT

I've been on vacation for a few weeks....and at this point I believe that
"Sprat" is "Darren" in disguise!!! Hopefully as I get through the rest of
the emails that have accumulated, I come across an email that proclaims that
these two are banned from our list....These two remind me of some of my more
obnoxious and annoying students....

----- Original Message -----
From: "The Hammond Family" <>
To: "TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group"
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: [teacherartexchange] When is it time to be "Mrs. Not Nice"

> I think we have another "troll"
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <>
> To: "TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group"
> <>
> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [teacherartexchange] When is it time to be "Mrs. Not Nice"
> I don't know what state you are in, but if we dump anything on a
> student for misbehavior, that is a lawsuit waiting to happen!!
> vicki in tn
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jacqueline Sprat <>
> To: TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group
> <>
> Sent: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 03:52:09 -0700
> Subject: RE: [teacherartexchange] When is it time to be "Mrs. Not Nice"
> That is a very interesting question. I have found that the best way
> to handle an entire class of disruptive students is to first identify
> the ringleader. There is always one student who is in the center of the
> disruptions and who encourages the others to act up. Once you identify
> the ringleader, simply empty a glass of ice water onto this students
> head in full view of the other students. This will humilate the
> ringleader and he will lose the support of his followers. The other
> students will then fall in line for fear that they will get a glass of
> ice water poured on them next. I understand that this is an extreme
> measure, but I find it quite effective. If you don't want to use ice
> water out of safety concerns, you could substitute sand.
> >From: "C Kerch" <>
> >Reply-To: "TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group"
> ><>
> >To: "TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group"
> ><>
> >Subject: [teacherartexchange] When is it time to be "Mrs. Not Nice"
> >Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 00:40:37 -1000
> >
> >Here's a question for my fellow art teachers. I've just been told
> that I >need to stop being so nice to my students and that I need to be
> stricter. >The "suggestion" comes on the heels of my awful year with my
> 5th graders. >This class was the largest I've had for Art and the most
> disruptive. I >tried every strategy in the book to get these guys under
> control and for a >while each technique would work or last for
> approximately a week before >they became disruptive again. I've drawn
> out contracts, flashed the >lights, blown the whistle, clapped my
> hands, held my hand up with my index >finger to my mouth, wrote A R T
> on the board and erased it for each >disruption, wrote behavior conduct
> slips, had the VP come to my room to >monitor then admonish the kids,
> and I've put students in time out or >penalty box. Nothing worked with
> these guys... seriously, nothing. All my >other classes were perfect
> and discipline problems were nil but this 5th >grade class was horrible
> and I was warned by the 4th Grade teachers who had >them last year that
> they were a bad group of kids. So, now I'm being >forewarned that I may
> have some of these little troublemakers back for art >this fall as 6th
> graders and that I need to set the LAW DOWN the first day >followed by
> constantly writing these kids up and above all, I'm told to >stop being
> sooo nice. So, exactly when is it time to be Mrs. Not Nice and >when do
> I go back to my usual self? I've tried being the mean it doesn't >work
> for these guys because they know that after a few weeks of being good
> >I'll be nice again.
> >
> >I love all the posts on discipline and how to handle disruptive
> behavior >BUT what do you do when it's an entire class of 25 students?
> >
> >
> >Mahalo,
> >Cathy
> >
> >
> >
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