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Re: [teacherartexchange] No Perfect "Top Ten" images - here is the list so far


From: wendy free (wendypaigefree_at_TeacherArtExchange)
Date: Fri Jul 15 2005 - 06:21:35 PDT

not a challenge, just a question i've been
considering: what is the purpose of a top 10 artists

my thoughts - what i need my students to know about
artists: they come from all over the world, from
prehistory - now, use many different materials, and
make art to say something. if students "get" this,
hopefully they'll recognize themselves as artists as
well as many others around them. if we look at faith
ringgold, a living african american woman who makes
story quilts, we can make the connection that
grandmother's quilt is art, and that the pieces of
cloth + the way they are put together tells us things.
 this is how i want my students to think of art
history and its relation to what i ask them to think
about and create.

other important concepts: examples of style of
representation: realistic, abstract, and nonobjective

if you're gonna do picasso=abstract, you've got to
tell the story of its connection to african masks, and
thn how about mark ecko's
rhino logo? ok, monet: connect to aboriginal dot
painting and pixels.

imho, a tops list would have to include representation
from many more peoples: hokusai, diego rivera... who
from russia? india? australia? the group of seven
from canada? native american... i understand the
limited time argument but pop culture loads kids up
with leonardo et al. as an art teacher, i feel like
my job is to tell the rest of the story, that art
isn't just oil paintings by, you know, dead white

also, many important works are "anonymous", what about
those? i'd like students to have some sort of
intelligent answer if they were asked, "what were the
first kinds of art ever made by people?"

a parallel: "great" musicians "we" all know
(non-euro)? even contemporary mainstream music is
pretty uninformed. how come britney and 50 cent
aren't tapping into kabuki traditions or ululating?
it'd be novel and it grabs ya! maybe this is one area
where we art eds have music eds beat (since they've
beaten us silly w/ advocacy).

glad to have summer time and the list to allow for
such ponderings!

:D wendy free


--- wrote:

> Hello all,
> I agree, I would have a hard time picking just ten
> too. But, they could
> serve a jumping off point for an internet workshop.
> I have students go
> out on the web and find an artist of interest to
> them that relates to
> what we are studying at the time and then bring back
> what they have
> learned to share with everyone else. I've also
> toyed with students
> making a time line (as a group)containing all the
> time periods, but
> with artists they like...
> vicki
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deborah Kaye <>
> To: TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group
> <>
> Sent: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:21:44 -0400
> Subject: [teacherartexchange] No Perfect "Top Ten"
> images - here is the
> list so far
> Hi Group,
> This has been a great discussion.... There is no way
> I could pick just
> ten. What I would like to see.... is maybe ten new
> images selected
> each year. Maybe Carol could approach their PTO to
> buy some 22 x 28
> frames. Display the Top Ten for each year throughout
> the school with
> information about the artist (or culture) displayed
> with the print.
> Every child needs to know who Monet was.... Sad
> thing is, the tech guy
> at my school had no clue who Monet (or
> Impressionism) was. He sure
> didn't have a very good art teacher when he was a
> kid.
> In my mind.... if we are to get those "enduring
> ideas" across to the
> kids, they need to see more than one representation.
> I would like for
> them to see more than one haystack (or waterlilies)
> - more than one
> Impressionist artist. And what African mask would
> you pick? from which
> cultural group? Which Pueblo potter would you pick?
> Which African
> American artist?
> Here is the list so far.....more than ten.
> Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel (and/or David - Pieta)
> The Parthenon (architecture covered)
> Leonardo da Vinci's Mona Lisa
> David's The Death of Marat
> George Seurat's Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La
> Grand Jatte
> Vincent Van Gogh's Starry Night
> Edvard Munch's The Scream
> Pablo Picasso's Guernica (or other cubist work)
> Grant Wood's American Gothic
> Salvador Dali's The Persistence of Memory
> Georgia O'Keeffe's Orange Poppy (or skull)
> Claude Monet - Water lilies
> Henri Matisse - any cut paper (one from Jazz series
> Andy Warhol - Soup Can
> Miro - Blue Series
> Modigliani - Portrait of Jean
> Henri Moore - sculpture
> Alexander Calder - Mobile or stabile
> Frank Lloyd Write - architecture
> Add some Cultural images
> Need ethnic works... women....
> I think Carol needs to think about the Big
> Ideas/Enduring Ideas she
> wants to get across to her students... then find the
> image(s) that
> meets that goal. I;ll recommend Carol get a
> Shorewood catalog as many
> of these prints are available (don't think they have
> sculpture
> though.... she will need Take 5 for that).
> Pick ten art teachers.... and you will get ten
> different top ten
> artists/prints...and that is a good thing.
> Deborah
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