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Re: [teacherartexchange] When is it time to be "Mrs. Not Nice"


Date: Thu Jul 07 2005 - 05:07:15 PDT

Hey Reatha,
I agree. Not that I haven't wanted to douse a few, but in my class they
would think I was playing and it would be an all out water fight!
Definitely have to hit them where it hurts by removing activities that
they like. I have found that writing art vocabulary is not much fun for
middle school students.

-----Original Message-----
To: TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group
Sent: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 07:41:58 EDT
Subject: Re: [teacherartexchange] When is it time to be "Mrs. Not Nice"

       I have to agree with all of the ideas stated below. They have all
worked wonders for me with high school students even. I have to say
that I am not in favor of the ice water thing. In my district that
would be the fast road to job hunting.
  In a message dated 7/7/2005 7:38:50 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, writes:
  With a group like that, (and yes we have all had them), you have to
find a
consequence that matters to them.
Loss of recess, afterschool detention, phone calls home to parents.
You have not said what consequences you have in place for those who
the rules.
Invite parents in to visit on a daily basis.
How does their classroom teacher get anything done ?? What system does
he/she have in place for this group??

Does their behavior in your class , carry over to their regular
or do they behave differently for you ?
Do the consequences for their behavior impact them outside of your room,
loss of field trips, special parties , extra computer time etc.???

You might have to be tough ALL YEAR with this group. Have them slowly
back the freedoms that the other groups enjoy,  like getting out of
seat to get supplies, talking during work time,. It will be more work
you to give out supplies etc. and not let them get up from their seats,
it will be better in the long run.
Fun projects with the OTHER groups that can handle the freedom , peer
often works wonders with groups like this.
If they see other 4th graders doing something different, they might come

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