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Re: [teacherartexchange] When is it time to be "Mrs. Not Nice"


From: The Hammond Family (bhammond_at_TeacherArtExchange)
Date: Thu Jul 07 2005 - 05:13:06 PDT

I think we have another "troll"
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Subject: Re: [teacherartexchange] When is it time to be "Mrs. Not Nice"

I don't know what state you are in, but if we dump anything on a
student for misbehavior, that is a lawsuit waiting to happen!!
vicki in tn

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From: Jacqueline Sprat <>
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Sent: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 03:52:09 -0700
Subject: RE: [teacherartexchange] When is it time to be "Mrs. Not Nice"

    That is a very interesting question. I have found that the best way
to handle an entire class of disruptive students is to first identify
the ringleader. There is always one student who is in the center of the
disruptions and who encourages the others to act up. Once you identify
the ringleader, simply empty a glass of ice water onto this students
head in full view of the other students. This will humilate the
ringleader and he will lose the support of his followers. The other
students will then fall in line for fear that they will get a glass of
ice water poured on them next. I understand that this is an extreme
measure, but I find it quite effective. If you don't want to use ice
water out of safety concerns, you could substitute sand.

>From: "C Kerch" <>
>Reply-To: "TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group"
>To: "TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group"
>Subject: [teacherartexchange] When is it time to be "Mrs. Not Nice"
>Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 00:40:37 -1000
>Here's a question for my fellow art teachers. I've just been told
that I >need to stop being so nice to my students and that I need to be
stricter. >The "suggestion" comes on the heels of my awful year with my
5th graders. >This class was the largest I've had for Art and the most
disruptive. I >tried every strategy in the book to get these guys under
control and for a >while each technique would work or last for
approximately a week before >they became disruptive again. I've drawn
out contracts, flashed the >lights, blown the whistle, clapped my
hands, held my hand up with my index >finger to my mouth, wrote A R T
on the board and erased it for each >disruption, wrote behavior conduct
slips, had the VP come to my room to >monitor then admonish the kids,
and I've put students in time out or >penalty box. Nothing worked with
these guys... seriously, nothing. All my >other classes were perfect
and discipline problems were nil but this 5th >grade class was horrible
and I was warned by the 4th Grade teachers who had >them last year that
they were a bad group of kids. So, now I'm being >forewarned that I may
have some of these little troublemakers back for art >this fall as 6th
graders and that I need to set the LAW DOWN the first day >followed by
constantly writing these kids up and above all, I'm told to >stop being
sooo nice. So, exactly when is it time to be Mrs. Not Nice and >when do
I go back to my usual self? I've tried being the mean it doesn't >work
for these guys because they know that after a few weeks of being good
>I'll be nice again.
>I love all the posts on discipline and how to handle disruptive
behavior >BUT what do you do when it's an entire class of 25 students?
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