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RE: Speaking of Restrooms....


From: Kimberly Herbert (kherbert_at_TeacherArtExchange)
Date: Thu Jul 24 2003 - 15:29:43 PDT

We have had a problem of vandalism in the 5th/1st grade bathrooms (the
school is sort of U shaped. We get blamed and then the administration
says that the kids can't go to the bathroom by themselves. The problem
is that the 1st/5th grade bathrooms are off the cafeteria, and at lunch
get used by all 650+ kids! I let my kids go to the bathroom when they
are doing independent work. Since I've been self-contained, I didn't
have much sympathy for the ones who waited for me to be teaching and
then need to go to the bathroom. I also had a problem with a certain set
of girls taking way to long 30 - 40 min. but I often did not have
documentation. So this year we are going to have a sign out sheet. Each
child will have their own sheet in a class binder by the door. They put
down time out circle where they are going and sign back in. This way I
have proof in the child's handwriting how long they were out of the

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought
without accepting it. - Aristotle
-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry & Mary B []
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 7:52 AM
To: ArtsEdNet Talk
Subject: Speaking of Restrooms....

Just curious, what is the policy for most of you art educators.
Sometimes I feel like I am in the minority at school , in that if the
kids ask politely( are not "frequent flyers") I let them go to the
restroom. Many teachers at our school do not let students go during
class. One scenario is if it is one of the later periods of the morning
or end of the day , some kids really got to go. So by the time they get
to art..... you know what I mean :-). We have 3 minutes between
classes. Now for some young ladies in puberty 3 minutes doesn't cut it.
I do tell kids if they need the restroom to tell me right away before
the bell rings and that way they won't be marked late.
Bottom line - you know who the abusers of rest room use and who
legitimately needs it. If a kid has been working well and needs to
leave during work time( not during demos unless emergency), why torture
them. I do not understand the policy of some who refuse to let kids go.

artappeal wrote:

>Makes me thankful that our kids are taught to say, "May I use the