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Barbara - thanks!


From: Judy Decker (jdecker_at_TeacherArtExchange)
Date: Wed Jul 23 2003 - 06:30:17 PDT

>>> that dishonesty is not acceptable behavior.

I was honest with my students....I answered their questions truthfully. Some
teachers don't do that.
My administrator didn't know how to be honest. I certainly did not want my
kids to turn out like him.
He lied to me - lied to the kids - lied to the parents. I caught him in many
lies. I don't know how some people can lie so easily - that really bothers
During the school year - If you see the topic of dishonesty/honesty come up.
Do me a favor and repost how you deal with it for all to see. So many sign
off for the summer.
I am going to share this with the other lists soon....but today I am going
out of town.


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Subject: doing artwork with students

When it was mentioned that a student got an F on art belonging to another
it made me want to share my view of this problem. One of the jobs I have is
to teach the students to respect the art of all students, including their
own, and honor all learning time. For example, I give points on extra
credit based on the amount of effort and time, not talent, that is placed
into an art piece's production. Knowing that 'Johnny' is turning in work
that is not his, I give him plenty of opportunity to be honest. My
questions on how he did what he did and how long it took him to do a certain
part give him the opportunity to back down and say 'I was just fooling you'.
 I will compliment and pump up the points somewhat as we go through the
talking process, Then I tell him to watch me put his grade down. I always
have each student do this as a form of insurance when recording any grade.
As I put the grade down I do not get upset but just state as a mater-of-fact
'do not ever try this again' and type a minus in front of the points. This
might not be 'kosher' to some but I am willing to take any negative feed
back to be able to feel that I have taught the majority of these students
that dishonesty is not acceptable behavior. I feel that they look at the
F' or '0' as what they would have gotten either way so why not try turning
in found work. With this method, which is in my first of the year letter
home to the parents under discipline procedures and behavior expectations, I
have found successful for over 20 years.

Barbara E. Rhodes