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> From: artsednet-digest <owner-artsednet-digest.edu>
> To: artsednet-digest.edu
> Subject: artsednet-digest V2 #537
> Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 3:47 AM
>
>
> artsednet-digest Friday, January 16 1998 Volume 02 : Number
537
>
>
>
> This edition includes :
> Re: Mac vs. PC
> Fused glass
> Re: Mac vs. PC
> Time spent on elemenatry art projects
> Re: Fused glass
> Re: Time spent on elemenatry art projects
> a small dose of inspiration for artists & art teachers and art students
> Re: Mac vs. PC
> Please pardon the intrusion
> Please pardon the intrusion
> Re: elementary report cards
> Re: elementary report cards
> Re: music in art room
> Re: music in art room
> Re: Art Projects in East Africa
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:07:02 -0500 (EST)
> From: Wade Cox <wc21808>
> Subject: Re: Mac vs. PC
>
> In reply to your question, I think that you will find that most people
> will be biased toward whatever machine they have had experience with.
For
> me, it would have to be a Mac. If price is that much of an issue, then
> I think it would just a little more shopping around, maybe through
> catalogues and such, but I'm sure that you can find a excellent Mac for
a
> decent price. I would also have to agree with Christine Merriam, tell
> your hubby to see what kind of computers the professionals are using...
> maybe that will give him a better idea.
>
>
> Wade Cox
> wc21808
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:55:57 -1000
> From: David Zimmerman <fastedy>
> Subject: Fused glass
>
> Christy:
>
> I run a summer art program in which we did fused glass with kids aged 6 -
> 12. I also took a workshop on it last fall. We made some wonderful
> tropical fish in bright colors and mask-like faces. The pieces can be
made
> into jewelry, refridgerator magnets, pins or hung in windows as
> mini-stained glass. The instructor used all sorts of scraps of glasss
from
> stained glass and his various glass projects. The pieces were layered on
> top of each other in abstract designs or small pictures and held in place
> with small dots of carpenters glue applied with a toothpick. (Its a bit
> thicker and tackier than elmers and burns off in the firing process.) We
> also layered pieces of scrap copper, and thin colored glass filament.
When
> dry, you can gently pick up the piece and place it in the kiln where it
is
> fired briefly. The pieces melt just enough to join together but not so
> much that they melt completely into one another. For exact firing times
> and temps you'd need to consult a book or glass artist, I'm afraid.
>
> At first I was very excited about this thinking I would be able to do it
in
> my clay kiln with ceramics students. However the glass artist explained
> that a specific type of kiln wash is necessary to prevent the pieces from
> sticking to the shelves, and the kiln must be absolutely spotless. He
> recommended against doing it in the same kiln used for clay. You need a
> kiln in which you can tightly control temperature and firing time--he
> suggested a computerized kiln.
>
> I have other ideas for applying this process to clay which I haven't
tried
> yet. Specifically, I'd like to make small clay masks or tiles and leave
> indentations in them where I can lay scrap glass to melt in the second
> firing. I'd love to hear other ideas about combining these two
processes.
>
> Deb Rosenbaum
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 98 20:15:08 -0600
> From: Melissa Enderle <enderlml.wi.us>
> Subject: Re: Mac vs. PC
>
> O.k. I'll admit it. I'm a biased, loyal Mac user. This past September I
> bought a powerbook 3400, a mobile companion to my desktop Mac. The
> Macintosh system, with its graphic interface dating back to the founding
> 1980's, is still the computer of choice for graphics professionals. The
> Macintosh system boasts solid performance, lower rates of troubles, and
> far fewer virus plagues. In the last few years, Macs have been the speed
> demons- not PC's. With the introduction of the G3 processors, Macs have
> once again showed their speed supremacy over PC's.
> Apple Company has made some positive steps in marketing its excellent
> product. It has dropped its prices, making them comparable to PC's. It
> also has begun to increase its local presence, with large sections of
> CompUSA's being devoted to Mac computers, software- and Mac-savy workers.
> Truthfully, I can't even think of not using a Mac. It simply is the best
> - - and most friendly- computer, especially for graphics individuals.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:06:09 -0800
> From: gbogus (Gary Bogus)
> Subject: Time spent on elemenatry art projects
>
> A colleague and I are in disagreement about how much time young (grades 1
> through 5) art students should spend on drawing projects. Classes are 45
> minutes once a week, class size 18 -27 students. She has kids work on
large
> paper with crayons, taking up to two months on one picture. I think this
is
> too much time spent on one picture, and that smaller, more immediate
> projects should be presented, particularly to the third grade and below.
I
> tend to gear my projects to something that can be completed in one, or at
> the most two, classes, with the upper grades doing one or two longer-run
> projects per year. Of course, we may do several pre-teaches, looking at
> examples or practicing skills, but overall I like to try to work smaller
> and faster.
>
> Opinions, anyone? I promise to take all the shots with good grace.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:02:30 -0500
> From: p-lstudio (betti longinotti)
> Subject: Re: Fused glass
>
> Make sure that the glass you are using is glass that 'can' be fused to
> each other. Scraps of glass may look like just scraps...but they have
> different reciprocities (different rates of contraction and expansion).
> In my last post I listed some manufacturers of fusible glass.
> Kilns...You can use a ceramic kiln just fine. You can lay fiberfrax
> 'paper' on the shelves or floor bottom of your kiln. You can also use
> an enameling kiln. There are some wonderful glass kilns out on the
> market now, designed for the specific purpose of firing glass- more
> horizontal flat floor space versus vertical space, designed for pottery.
> Some of these have the computerized automatic controllers but this is
> not a requirement for firing glass. Once you've fired glass a few times
> you will get a feel for the temperature you desire, for the types of
> glass you are using. A pyrometer on your kiln is really helpful to
> gauge the kiln's temperture and firing schedule. When firing glass you
> should also make sure you anneal it properly, or your glass pieces may
> be subject to cracking.
>
> In Art & Life,
> Betti L.
> p-lstudio
> or on the www at
> http://www.angelfire.com/nc/plstudio
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 23:16:47 -0600
> From: Scurfield <scurfield>
> Subject: Re: Time spent on elemenatry art projects
>
> Gary Bogus wrote:
> >
> > A colleague and I are in disagreement about how much time young (grades
1
> > through 5) art students should spend on drawing projects. Classes are
45
> > minutes once a week, class size 18 -27 students. She has kids work on
large
> > paper with crayons, taking up to two months on one picture. I think
this is
> > too much time spent on one picture, and that smaller, more immediate
> > projects should be presented, particularly to the third grade and
below. I
> > tend to gear my projects to something that can be completed in one, or
at
> > the most two, classes, with the upper grades doing one or two
longer-run
> > projects per year. Of course, we may do several pre-teaches, looking at
> > examples or practicing skills, but overall I like to try to work
smaller
> > and faster.
> >
> > Opinions, anyone? I promise to take all the shots with good grace.
>
> Personally, I agree with you Gary. I like my lessons to interrelate, of
> course, but in my opinion, the primary grades don't have the attention
> span for lessons which last much longer than two weeks. I like to do
> units with the upper grades--series of interconnecting lessons. It's
> easier to accomplish the objectives of DBAE that way.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:05:00 -0600
> From: Katherine Giltinan <k.giltinan>
> Subject: a small dose of inspiration for artists & art teachers and art
students
>
> Your Life Holds Unlimited Potential
> and Wonderful Dreams
>
> You have the ability
> to attain whatever you seek;
> within you is every potential
> you can imagine.
> Always aim higher than
> you believe you can reach.
> So often, you'll discover
> that when your talents
> are set free
> by your imagination,
> you can acheive any goal.
> If people offer their
> help or wisdom
> as you go through life,
> accept it gratefully.
> You can learn much from those
> who have gone before you.
> But never be afraid or hesitant
> to step off the accepted path
> and head off in your own direction
> if your heart tells you
> that it's the right way for you.
> Always believe that you will
> ultimately succeed
> at whatever you do,
> and never forget the value
> of persistence, discipline,
> and determination.
> You are meant to be
> whatever you dream
> of becoming.
>
> - --Edmund O'Neill
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 02:36:07 -0500 (EST)
> From: GTBlack
> Subject: Re: Mac vs. PC
>
> If you search the job pages of companies that create computer animation,
> multimedia programs, games and websites I think you'll find they tend to
> prefer PCs. Softimage, a high end 3D program, isn't even offered on Mac
> ....... Graphic design is a coin flip. I know as many artists that work
on
> PC as Mac.
>
> - -Geoff Black
>
> Kristin Bouton wrote:
> >>My husband is about to start a degree in graphic
> design, with the possibility of moving into computer graphic
> animation. We are going to by a new computer, but we don't know
> whether to buy a Mac or a PC. It seems like we can get a lot
> more computer for our money if we buy a PC, but I have always
> heard that the Mac is better for graphic design. I have also
> read somewhere recently, however that the PC is catching up
> to the Mac in graphic performance. So what should we do?
> Kristin Bouton<<
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 01:06:50 -0500 (EST)
> From: Reminder.NET
> Subject: Please pardon the intrusion
>
> I am not on the internet to burden you with unsolicited advertising and
> if I've offended you in any way, I do sincerely apologize. To be removed
from
> this list, simply reply to this message with "Capitalist Pig!" in the
subject field.
>
> My point is brief, in that I would like to aquaint you with a service
> that you've probably never heard of and, since you're in the United
States,
> is available to you at very little cost.
>
> You might just throw away your calender for good once you see my
website.
> Take a quick look at
http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/supervisor/NRS1.html
>
> End Intrusion.
>
> Cordially,
> BCA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 01:14:51 -0500 (EST)
> From: Reminder.NET
> Subject: Please pardon the intrusion
>
> I am not on the internet to burden you with unsolicited advertising and
> if I've offended you in any way, I do sincerely apologize. To be removed
from
> this list, simply reply to this message with "Capitalist Pig!" in the
subject field.
>
> My point is brief, in that I would like to aquaint you with a service
> that you've probably never heard of and, since you're in the United
States,
> is available to you at very little cost.
>
> You might just throw away your calender for good once you see my
website.
> Take a quick look at
http://www.freeyellow.com/members2/supervisor/NRS1.html
>
> End Intrusion.
>
> Cordially,
> BCA
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:09:34 -0600
> From: "Lily/Clair Kerns" <CWKerns>
> Subject: Re: elementary report cards
>
> Please, please, somewhere in there recognize creative thinking
> skills--however you choose to word them, these 5 are basics...
>
> comes up with many ideas
> comes up with many different kinds of ideas
> has unique ideas
> builds on an ideas ( "one idea leads to another")
> embellishes (adds details) ideas.
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Lily Kerns CWKerns
> Church-- http://198.139.157.15/fumcmarionvilleumw
> Art Teachers-- http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/9575
> Personal-- http://members.tripod.com/~LilyK/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:09:34 -0600
> From: "Lily/Clair Kerns" <CWKerns>
> Subject: Re: elementary report cards
>
> Please, please, somewhere in there recognize creative thinking
> skills--however you choose to word them, these 5 are basics...
>
> comes up with many ideas
> comes up with many different kinds of ideas
> has unique ideas
> builds on an ideas ( "one idea leads to another")
> embellishes (adds details) ideas.
>
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Lily Kerns CWKerns
> Church-- http://198.139.157.15/fumcmarionvilleumw
> Art Teachers-- http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/9575
> Personal-- http://members.tripod.com/~LilyK/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:41:33 -0600
> From: "Lily/Clair Kerns" <CWKerns>
> Subject: Re: music in art room
>
> I believe that if a school-wide policy exists, every teacher should
follow
> it for the
> sake of consistency and esprit de corps. You might consider buying a
boom
> box with tape
> and/or CD capability for your classroom. Many teachers at school do
this.
> I don't
> allow students to handle it, however, since it gets to be a distraction
when
> they use it
> rewind their tapes (saves Walkman batteries) or replay the same song over
> and over, or
> crank up the volume. If they want to play their own tapes or CDs, they
have
> to hand it
> to me; if I think the lyrics may be questionable, I won't play it.
> >>
> I've tried allowing them to choose the music, to use their personal
walkmans
> / headphones (provided the volume was turned down enough that only they
> could hear it!) , sometimes I gave them a choice of my music or none
with
> absolutely no talking while they worked. For some projects--no choice.
I
> finally settled for using music only for selected projects with my choice
of
> music.
>
> I found that the type of music being played can have a BIG influence on
the
> work accomplished as well as the general atmosphere in the room. Best
> choices--melodic, NO Words, flute is especially good. Guess whose choices
> those are...
>
> I tried this one time in a 3-4 grade room, giving each 10 minutes with
the
> headphones and a Zamfir tape with pan pipes (one little cheap tape
recorder
> for 29 kids). That day they were to draw 3 overlapping figures (head and
> shoulders starting with ovals) . One boy's drawing was typical for the
> age--but during the 10 minutes he used the headphones, he did the most
> intricately detailed neckline/necklace section. When he passed the
> headphones on, he went back to the style he'd used in the first half of
the
> period.
>
> Lily
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Lily Kerns CWKerns
> Church-- http://198.139.157.15/fumcmarionvilleumw
> Art Teachers-- http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/9575
> Personal-- http://members.tripod.com/~LilyK/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 05:41:33 -0600
> From: "Lily/Clair Kerns" <CWKerns>
> Subject: Re: music in art room
>
> I believe that if a school-wide policy exists, every teacher should
follow
> it for the
> sake of consistency and esprit de corps. You might consider buying a
boom
> box with tape
> and/or CD capability for your classroom. Many teachers at school do
this.
> I don't
> allow students to handle it, however, since it gets to be a distraction
when
> they use it
> rewind their tapes (saves Walkman batteries) or replay the same song over
> and over, or
> crank up the volume. If they want to play their own tapes or CDs, they
have
> to hand it
> to me; if I think the lyrics may be questionable, I won't play it.
> >>
> I've tried allowing them to choose the music, to use their personal
walkmans
> / headphones (provided the volume was turned down enough that only they
> could hear it!) , sometimes I gave them a choice of my music or none
with
> absolutely no talking while they worked. For some projects--no choice.
I
> finally settled for using music only for selected projects with my choice
of
> music.
>
> I found that the type of music being played can have a BIG influence on
the
> work accomplished as well as the general atmosphere in the room. Best
> choices--melodic, NO Words, flute is especially good. Guess whose choices
> those are...
>
> I tried this one time in a 3-4 grade room, giving each 10 minutes with
the
> headphones and a Zamfir tape with pan pipes (one little cheap tape
recorder
> for 29 kids). That day they were to draw 3 overlapping figures (head and
> shoulders starting with ovals) . One boy's drawing was typical for the
> age--but during the 10 minutes he used the headphones, he did the most
> intricately detailed neckline/necklace section. When he passed the
> headphones on, he went back to the style he'd used in the first half of
the
> period.
>
> Lily
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Lily Kerns CWKerns
> Church-- http://198.139.157.15/fumcmarionvilleumw
> Art Teachers-- http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/Dell/9575
> Personal-- http://members.tripod.com/~LilyK/
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Fri, 4 Jan 1980 23:50:02 +0300
> From: ttipton.tz
> Subject: Re: Art Projects in East Africa
>
> Internet is available but not yet at the school I teach in. It is
> sporadic, haphazard, inconsistent, and unreliable when it is
> available. At this point, I only have email so I'm missing all these
> great web sites and the Getty site as resource materials. Many times
> I will not see the post I sent to the Getty as part of my mail
> messages, so forgive me if I've sent them off again and you received
> them the first time. Mail quite regularly doesn't go through whether
> it's email or surface mail.
>
> I'm in a private school, well-equipped with art supplies. More than I
> could have imagined for a school just starting an art program.
> I'm trained in DBAE along with a variety of other approaches
> including my own art training as a visual artist, curriculum
> specialist, and administrator, so I bring alot of all of that to the
> work I'm doing.
>
> I'm teaching K-6, team teaching with the classroom teacher in
> 80-minute blocks once a week. I rotate through a term seeing 1/2 of
> these kids every week; then switch with the other 1/2. The classroom
> teacher carries on without me after planning the lessons during
> built-in plannig meetings which I just was able to get added to my
> rotation schedule. The school has a second art room for this purpose
> when the students aren't seeing me. Until they get a second art
> teacher, this was a better compromise than seeing the whole lot every
> two weeks until I get more help prepping materials and cleaning up
> from lessons.
>
> As a result, my focus varies from project-based to concept-based
> lessons. There are some art visuals here but I brought my own with
> slides anticipating their lack and unavailability locally, so my art
> history intro to a lesson comes from this source material. I am
> trying to use local materials when available, such as bark cloth, but
> most other things used locally are imported from India. Right now the
> kinds of arts projects I'm working on are clay vessels with lids
> enclosing a mystery item (made separately); calligraphy of personal
> poems; batik and tye-dye khanga cloths; paper mache masks using
> African masks as the inspiration; an outdoor mural; propoganda and
> visual contradictions using montages; and sculptural inventions. I
> just offered an in-serviee for teachers on "Reading Visual Content in
> Children's Art." Several classes on their own are doing postcards for
> an exchange with Joy Sokero from her postcard idea a while back.
>
> Art supplies are ordered from Europe and the United States one year
> in advance. I have a very healthy supply budget of $17,000 for 550
> kids, but in real terms after shipping it's $15,000. I had alot of
> fun spending that much money and allows me to order specialty things
> that I ordinarily brought into artist-in-residencies such as
> iridescent paper, foils, watercolor pencils, mylar, etc. that many school
> budgets can't afford. I put my order in for next year this October; it
took
> until December to make it an offical order and will be July when it
> arrives most likely. Until the recent opening in trade, supplies had to
be
> ordered 3 years in advance. In fact, a music order just arrived that
> was ordered 3 years ago. Theft in shipments is a big issue, so it's
> difficult to predict availability even with an order.
>
> There is a large Indian community in Dar, so there are some things
> available locally that are used in cultural celebrations such as
> Diwalli and are incorporated into elaborate adornments. There is no
> art supply store here at all. I had a shock recently when
> I went to buy a piece of 150-lb watercolor paper and it was $21!
> There is no local source for acrylic paints or oil paints, although I
> have seen watercolors at a local office supply store recently (the
> same place as the watercolor paper!) The problem is that there is no
> centralized distribution system for anything, so it makes finding
> things difficult. One store may carry one item; another store may
> care another. You have to find these things out word of mouth because
> many of these places don't have phones or there is no electricity; or
> there is no inventory so people don't know even when they do have a
> phone, whether it's available.
>
> The best source of material right now is personal couriering via
> friends and teachers traveling to Dar, as will be the case for a
> couple of art exchange projects I'm doing with teachers as a result
> of our communication via this listserve.
>
> Thanks for your inquiry. It's been really important for me to connect
> with my peers and colleagues by email - they're not available
> locally!
>
> Regards,
> Teresa Tipton
>
>
> From: Nancy Walkup <Walkup.EDU>
> To: ttipton.tz
> Cc: artsednet.edu
> Subject: Re: East Africa -Reply
>
> Teresa:
>
> Thanks for the commentary about East Africa. The situation sounds much
> like Haiti, supposedly the poorest country in the western hemisphere.
> How do you manage to have Internet access? What kinds of art
> instruction are you providing?
>
> Nancy
>
>
>
> Nancy Walkup
> Project Coordinator
> North Texas Institute for Educators on the Visual Arts
> PO Box 305100 University of North Texas
> Denton, TX 76203
> walkup
> 940.565.3986
> FAX 940-565-4867
>
> ------------------------------
>
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