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response to Craig.....

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Bunki Kramer (
Tue, 6 Jan 1998 23:48:18 -0700

.....>Since I've tangoed with Bunki before on this issue, I've been reluctant to
>dance with her again to the same number.;^) But, Tommye's plea for
>comments from other university professors was too difficult for me to

Ahhhhhhhh. You are such a sweetie! You steal my heart away....and you did
it so nicely too! I expected a real basher was going to come from you. You
ready to tango?

>....But, because I witness such>incompetence in one teacher (or colleague)
>I don't assume that all teacher>(educators) are incompetent.

I have never assumed all teacher (educators) are incompetent and never said
I did. I said some of MY professors were less than competent in the
teaching field. I expected to hear from professors but I'm finding some are
putting words in my mouth that I never said.

.......> But, once again, I don't>assume that all teacher training programs
are without merit.

As I said before, neither do I.

......>What I would like to hear is less "ranting" and more constructive
>suggestions on how we can improve art teacher education (both at the
>preservice and inservice levels).

Hummmm. I didn't hear "ranting"...was I "ranting"? Sorry if it seemed like
that. Frustration perhaps. And I have offered a constructive suggestion.
>Which brings me to a suggestion that Bunki made about teacher educators
>returning to the classroom for an extended period of time. I know that
>some states require this practice...

Really? Mine doesn't. What states do?

>I'm sure others will soon. I agree>that this seems like a good idea--at
>least on the surface.

Why not under the surface?

But, I don't>feel this alone will solve the problems that exist in teacher

I don't either but it's a one small step in the right direction.

......>While it will provide a healthy dose of "reality," the incompetent
teacher>educator will in all likelihood still be incompetent.

Do we give up so easily to change the incompetent teacher into a less
incompetent one?

..>BTW: Bunki, I plan to do just this on my first sabbatical in 27 years of
>teaching next Spring.


Thank you, Craig, for being so open to examining my viewpoint. I always
appreciate your comments. I am not a rebel in demeanor by any means
usually. I opened up a discussion about problems I've seen (per Bob
Beeching's ART ADVOCATE newletter) and wanted to share. I was not expecting
an avalanche of posts agreeing with me. That points out there seems to be a
snowballing consensus here. I'm disappointed some people have become angry
because they assumed I was down on all professors and took it
personally...for some odd reason or other.
They need to re-read my posts. That's not the case. Thanks again. Bye,
dance partner..................

Bunki Kramer
Los Cerros Middle School
Danville, California 94526

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