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On Thu, 23 Jan 1997, Robert Alexander Fromme wrote:
> At 02:16 PM 1/23/97 est, Carole Osman wrote:
> > I fear that you may be the one who is "confused" about the intention
> > of creating post card collages from "Junk Mail" and other assorted
> > collected pieces of paper.
> Ok, I stand here, egg all over my face, corrected.
> As an (old) art educator (also as one who participated in Mailart and
> other Idea Art activities in the early 70's), I am interested in your
> project. However, I would also hope that those participating in it
> understand that there is an interesting tradition for this kind of
> expression. One would also hope that the students who are involved in your
> event will understand that the seemingly irrational activity will need to
> formulate a solid idea underneath the objects they create. I would hope
> that the project would give rise to classroom discussions about the multiple
> values which are placed upon an art object and even if the art they create
> has no value as an object, a significant idea or a significant art making
> process can give rise to other kinds of values for the work.
> May I play the devil's advocate, here.
> If your project requires that the children create a collage from "junk mail"
> and then send it back into the mail, could you outline just what you see as
> the objectives of the lesson for them.
> Will the children learn anything about Dada, Duchamp, Cubism (collage),
> thirty years of reactions to the control of the art market by business
> forces or other conceptual directions in some of our art over the past
> thirty years?
> Are the youngsters old enough to formulate a solid idea which will give
> significance to their work? The anti-(traditional) art posturing of Dada
> and related developments is often quite confusing to experienced artists and
> college level students. How will the kids come away from your project with
> anything other then confusion or, worse, a sense of art as being trivial.
> In this conceptual tradition, emphasis upon traditional concerns of form
> (elements and principles) in the creation of the objects will not overcome
> the lack of an idea or significant content underneath the production of the
> works .
> Well, I hope the project is a good event and I hope that more learning then
> confusion comes from your project.