I am new to this forum so hopefully I am adding to this discussion
correctly.
The statement made that low-achieving students are a "real and serious
problem" is too true. It is part of what prompted me to go into education.
While I have not yet enough years of experience to know if my theories are
true, I believe persistence and consistency are the keys in this area. It
is of course easier if the rest of the school is on board with teaching in a
manner that encourages creative thinking and discovery. But even if it is
just you, we must persistently and tirelessly set our sights on providing
critical thinking opportunites for students. I believe most students become
"lazy" because they have gone for years with the creating and discovery
removed from education. They have been able to "succeed" by just going
through the motions. Undoing that mindset will take time (for example maybe
by the time the 6th graders are in 8th grade they will get it), but I
believe it is a realisitic and worthy goal.
-Marissa
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> 1. Re: 21st Century Skills - Teaching for Artistic Behavior
> 2. Re: 21st Century Skills - Teaching for Artistic Behavior
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> Subject: Re: 21st Century Skills - Teaching for Artistic Behavior
> From: jjennifer west <jenniferjoycewest@yahoo.com>
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:31:32 -0800 (PST)
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>
> So agreed. I try to do this, but honestly, I find a lot of my students so
> frustrating. I work in California with middle school students that range
> so far across the board academically and on the socio-economic spectrum.
> Most of my kids are LAZY and lack a lot of basic skills. Sometimes I'm
> not really sure what to do with them. I would love to give them more
> critical thinking activities, but they usually just stare blankly at me
> with glossed over looks and whine about how hard it is. Any thoughts on
> resources to help these "low" kids would be great (I have some more
> advanced classes that totally "get it" and we do great, but those are only
> 2 out of 5 classes).
>
> Thanks,
> Jen
>
>
> --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Judy Decker <jdecker4art@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Judy Decker <jdecker4art@gmail.com>
>> Subject: [teacherartexchange] 21st Century Skills - Teaching for Artistic
>> Behavior
>> To: "TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group"
>> <teacherartexchange@lists.pub.getty.edu>
>> Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 7:02 AM
>> Greetings Art Educators,
>>
>> Does your program focus on 21st Century Skills? Are you
>> preparing your
>> students for today's job market (or tomorrow's)?
>> Are you giving your students the answers -- or are you
>> teaching your
>> students how to find them? Our nation's emphasis on the
>> standardized
>> test is all so wrong - the emphasis is placed on
>> knowledge-knowledge-knowledge. Knowledge is so easy to
>> find. It is
>> just a click away. We need to teach our youth how to be
>> critical
>> thinkers - problem solvers. I am so very proud of my son,
>> Matthew. I
>> know I brag about him often on the lists (what do you
>> expect? --grin).
>> He got the job at Toyota (mechanical engineer) because of
>> his many
>> talents - not just because of his book smarts. He
>> wasn't
>> "top-of-the-class" in college, but he did well
>> (magna cum laude. We
>> never pushed him to be "summa"). He participated
>> in many arts' events
>> (student run theatre organization - which helped him to be
>> a great
>> communicator).
>>
>> Here is the site for 21st Century Skills:
>> http://www.21stcenturyskills.org/ >>
>> Teaching for Artistic Behavior supports 21st Century
>> Skills:
>> http://teachingforartisticbehavior.org/21stcenturyskills.html >>
>> If that link doesn't work - go to:
>> http://teachingforartisticbehavior.org/index.html >> Click on 21st Century Skills in left menu
>>
>> Teaching for Artistic Behavior (or some form of Choice
>> Based Art) is
>> the only way to meet many of your curriculum standards.
>> Really look at
>> what you are supposed to be doing. I didn't
>> "discover" until late in
>> my teaching career what I was doing "wrong" (used
>> quotation marks on
>> purpose... I am not saying that what you are doing is
>> wrong). I
>> learned a LOT from reading Dr. Marvin Bartel's web
>> site.
>> http://www.goshen.edu/~marvinpb/MB_Home.htm >> http://www.bartelart.com/ >> I "met" Marvin on Getty list in 1998. I had to
>> sign up to a list serve
>> for a professional development class I was taking. There
>> wasn't any
>> relevant action on the required list, so I asked permission
>> to join
>> Getty list instead....and you know the rest. Here I am
>> today.
>>
>> Lots of TAB Presentations (and presentations that support
>> TAB) at NAEA
>> this year:
>> http://teachingforartisticbehavior.org/NAEA%202009.html >> (if link doesn't work - click on link in menu on home
>> page)
>>
>> I am so jealous of all of you who get to go to NAEA. Share
>> some of the
>> "good stuff" you learn with the lists. Don't
>> share all of the secrets
>> or folks won't find a need to go themselves the
>> following year
>> (smile).
>>
>> Hmmm.... I seem to be a bit chatty today (chuckles)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Judy Decker
>>
>> ---
>> To unsubscribe go to
>> http://www.getty.edu/education/teacherartexchange/unsubscribe.html >
>
>
>
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>
> Subject: Re: 21st Century Skills - Teaching for Artistic Behavior
> From: Diane Gregory <gregory.diane55@yahoo.com>
> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 17:48:29 -0800 (PST)
> X-Message-Number: 2
>
> Good question. I get the same kind of thing at the university level. I
> do notice they do not have a strong work ethic, have poor academic and
> time management skills. I also notice that students may be working 30 to
> 40 hours a week and going to school full time. It is crazy. I think
> people are very stressed and OCD. I think the reasons vary from person to
> person, but it very demoralizing as a teacher educator when a student who
> is going to be an elementary classroom teacher says that they do not like
> to read or want to read and that they seldom read. I do think there is
> systemic problem in our culture that needs to be addressed. It is very
> complex and I hardly know where to begin, except to describe the types of
> low achieving students that want to be our future teachers. I normally
> don't like to get on a complaining bandwagon, but the problem is serious
> and real.
> Diane
>
> --- On Thu, 1/29/09, jjennifer west <jenniferjoycewest@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> From: jjennifer west <jenniferjoycewest@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [teacherartexchange] 21st Century Skills - Teaching for
>> Artistic Behavior
>> To: "TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group"
>> <teacherartexchange@lists.pub.getty.edu>
>> Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 1:31 AM
>> So agreed. I try to do this, but honestly, I find a lot of
>> my students so frustrating. I work in California with
>> middle school students that range so far across the board
>> academically and on the socio-economic spectrum. Most of my
>> kids are LAZY and lack a lot of basic skills. Sometimes
>> I'm not really sure what to do with them. I would love
>> to give them more critical thinking activities, but they
>> usually just stare blankly at me with glossed over looks and
>> whine about how hard it is. Any thoughts on resources to
>> help these "low" kids would be great (I have some
>> more advanced classes that totally "get it" and we
>> do great, but those are only 2 out of 5 classes).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jen
>>
>>
>> --- On Tue, 1/27/09, Judy Decker
>> <jdecker4art@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > From: Judy Decker <jdecker4art@gmail.com>
>> > Subject: [teacherartexchange] 21st Century Skills -
>> Teaching for Artistic Behavior
>> > To: "TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group"
>> <teacherartexchange@lists.pub.getty.edu>
>> > Date: Tuesday, January 27, 2009, 7:02 AM
>> > Greetings Art Educators,
>> >
>> > Does your program focus on 21st Century Skills? Are
>> you
>> > preparing your
>> > students for today's job market (or
>> tomorrow's)?
>> > Are you giving your students the answers -- or are you
>> > teaching your
>> > students how to find them? Our nation's emphasis
>> on the
>> > standardized
>> > test is all so wrong - the emphasis is placed on
>> > knowledge-knowledge-knowledge. Knowledge is so easy to
>> > find. It is
>> > just a click away. We need to teach our youth how to
>> be
>> > critical
>> > thinkers - problem solvers. I am so very proud of my
>> son,
>> > Matthew. I
>> > know I brag about him often on the lists (what do you
>> > expect? --grin).
>> > He got the job at Toyota (mechanical engineer) because
>> of
>> > his many
>> > talents - not just because of his book smarts. He
>> > wasn't
>> > "top-of-the-class" in college, but he did
>> well
>> > (magna cum laude. We
>> > never pushed him to be "summa"). He
>> participated
>> > in many arts' events
>> > (student run theatre organization - which helped him
>> to be
>> > a great
>> > communicator).
>> >
>> > Here is the site for 21st Century Skills:
>> > http://www.21stcenturyskills.org/ >> >
>> > Teaching for Artistic Behavior supports 21st Century
>> > Skills:
>> >
>> http://teachingforartisticbehavior.org/21stcenturyskills.html >> >
>> > If that link doesn't work - go to:
>> > http://teachingforartisticbehavior.org/index.html >> > Click on 21st Century Skills in left menu
>> >
>> > Teaching for Artistic Behavior (or some form of Choice
>> > Based Art) is
>> > the only way to meet many of your curriculum
>> standards.
>> > Really look at
>> > what you are supposed to be doing. I didn't
>> > "discover" until late in
>> > my teaching career what I was doing "wrong"
>> (used
>> > quotation marks on
>> > purpose... I am not saying that what you are doing is
>> > wrong). I
>> > learned a LOT from reading Dr. Marvin Bartel's web
>> > site.
>> > http://www.goshen.edu/~marvinpb/MB_Home.htm >> > http://www.bartelart.com/ >> > I "met" Marvin on Getty list in 1998. I had
>> to
>> > sign up to a list serve
>> > for a professional development class I was taking.
>> There
>> > wasn't any
>> > relevant action on the required list, so I asked
>> permission
>> > to join
>> > Getty list instead....and you know the rest. Here I am
>> > today.
>> >
>> > Lots of TAB Presentations (and presentations that
>> support
>> > TAB) at NAEA
>> > this year:
>> >
>> http://teachingforartisticbehavior.org/NAEA%202009.html >> > (if link doesn't work - click on link in menu on
>> home
>> > page)
>> >
>> > I am so jealous of all of you who get to go to NAEA.
>> Share
>> > some of the
>> > "good stuff" you learn with the lists.
>> Don't
>> > share all of the secrets
>> > or folks won't find a need to go themselves the
>> > following year
>> > (smile).
>> >
>> > Hmmm.... I seem to be a bit chatty today (chuckles)
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Judy Decker
>> >
>> > ---
>> > To unsubscribe go to
>> >
>> http://www.getty.edu/education/teacherartexchange/unsubscribe.html >>
>>
>>
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