I have tried to "do the right thing" over the last five years of
working on Incredible Art Department (which is a non-profit education
web site).
When my students did the original "Know the Artist" web pages (back in
1999-2001), we had permission from the sites (Carol Gerten - etc) we
used for images (but of course, that really didn't grant us as they
were not the original copyright holders. They had simply scanned in
images from books etc to built their sites). Technically, those sites
didn't have permission either. Carol Gerten has had to remove images
over the years at the request of the estate of many artists. No action
was charged against her as she obliged. That is usually the case when
it comes to "educational" web sites. All one has to do is remove the
images in question.
Since I am trying to follow "the letter of the law", I have removed
all of the images on those pages (since revenue is now generated with
the Google ads - the site is not entirely "non-profit" in my opinion).
I get requests all the time for the images. I simply tell the teachers
how to find them online.
Jackie wrote:
> Not true on images can be used for educational purpose. Etiquette is
> to ask for permission on anything. True, some things you can not get
> permission.
I am envious if you got permission to use Dr. Martin Luther King,
Jr.'s image with your students. I tired for over a year to get
permission and finally gave up. I sent hard copies of my request along
with digital copies. In my last communication (over a year later from
my original request) I sent a letter that the images were returned to
the lesson and would be removed at their request. I never heard back.
My first communication (prior to my official written request) stated
the same thing. When I heard back that I needed to file an official
written request on their forms, I did (and removed the images). I get
many requests a year asking how to get permission to use Dr. King's
image... and I give them my honest answer (smile) - which I can not
post to the list.
I also have not been able to get any response from National Geographic
on how to get permission to use their images (in works such as
collage).
Yes - you do have "blanket" permission to use images for educational
purposes - as long as you stick to the unofficial guidelines (set up
by librarians, by the way. Who do not know your needs). Fair Use is a
DEFENCE - not a given. There have been few instances of charges
against teachers - and those were blatant violations. In one, a
teacher had ripped off an entire handout - gave no credit as to the
original source - and was charging students for it.
You can find lots of charts online that give the arbitrary Fair Use
guidelines, if interested. I know music is listed too as "Fair Use"
(so many seconds of the piece).
Is his book geared mainly to music/video? Does it include photos/still
images (artworks)?
My favorite "art thief" - Barry Kite (fun collages - recycling images)
- did get a cease and desist from someone in control of some of Da
Vinci's images (a museum maybe?). He did not cease and desist and
nothing ever came about from that. I believe I can still locate
Barry's philosophy on the topic if you are interested. Visit his site:
http://www.aberrantart.com/
I met Barry many years ago at Ann Arbor Art Fair. I talk to him every
year now. My hubby and I bought three of his prints two years ago. He
actually gave us one free since we couldn't decide which Hopper ones
to get. We had great fun talking to him. I bought his Volkswagon
Beetle print - just for fun because I knew VW did not approve of the
use of the Beetle in art (grin). Some of you may remember that
broo-ha-ha a few years ago with Don Stewart. Check out his site:
http://www.dsart.com/
Don's conflict was with trademarked images.
Regards,
Judy Decker
On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:21 PM, San D Hasselman wrote:
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> http://copyrightbook.net/ >
> This was the site that the instructor, Dr. James Frankel (yes, I found my paperwork!) recommended that we look at to get information on copyright laws.
>
> San D
