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Re: [teacherartexchange] Ken's Weave Drawing with a new twist


Date: Tue Jan 24 2006 - 08:54:57 PST

I am following all this with interest, Judy. I post the Stanford site frequently to
my poetry lists and we've had many discussions because quoting three lines of a
haiku is reproducing the whole thing, and in our case, using Japanese old
master haiku in haiga involves getting the permission of whoever translated it
because even the oldest translations are still in public domain.

The basic precaution that when you're up against a media conglomerate or a
very determined estate with profit at issue, you may wind up with expensive
legal bills proving that your use of an image falls within 'Fair Use'.


---- Original message ----
>Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 18:20:59 -0500
>From: Judy Decker <>
>Subject: [teacherartexchange] Ken's Weave Drawing with a new twist
>To: "TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group"
>Was: Re: [teacherartexchange] Putting the FUN back in Pop Art Lessons
>Hi Judi,
>Ken's weave drawing is one of my favorite lessons on IAD... it is
>always successful. Many teachers use it. One teacher had the students
>to self portraits from digital photos. They took two different
>photographs - did the weave - then value drawing - same thing only
>this time using their own photos.
>Students could take photos of community - then do the weave of two
>related things.
>You can get away with all sorts of things in the classroom that a
>practicing artist may not be able to do. The weave does make it
>difficult to see the original images - so I seriously doubt anyone
>will challenge it. Most copyright infringement in the visual arts goes
>I violated copyright when I was teaching (we did a lot of
>collage/assemblage)... told the kiddies that what we were doing
>wouldn't fly in the real world. I just didn't know how "bad" I was
>until I did all of this reading on the "letter of the law".
>Judy Decker
>On 1/23/06, Judi Morgan <> wrote:
>> With all this hoopla about Fair Use and appropriated images, does that
>> mean the great Ken Schwab lesson that combines images into a woven
>> is also off-limits? Or is that considered "changed enough"?
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