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There was a greast series in Arts and Activities a couple of yrs back on the
Sea turtle tango
 I do a turtle project w/ my 1's-
show them pics of turtles- point out the differing patterns around the
outside edge of shell from inside shell.
Have them round out a 12x18 pc white paper to oval, drawan inner oval -
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> I share my jr/sr high classroom with the middle school science teacher.
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it's okay- but even their yellow is kind of transparent. Most other colors
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2>it's okay- but even their yellow is kin1/18/2001 0:00:00

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I love the Crayola brand acrylic paint. Much better, I think than the
others, although Sax brand is also pretty good and comes in big gallon sizes
with pumps. I like to order quart sizes for my shelves, but the pump is a
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In a message dated 1/16/01 8:16:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, tmason@io.com
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> > Dear Sir
> > I have an 11 year old son with ADHD. I am looking for an art school
> > or class
> > for him. He likes to draw cartoon characters. We live in NYC. Thank
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The Metropolitan Museum of Art has FREE classes for middle school children
beginning this spring.1/18/2001 0:00:00
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> A group of us would like to get tickets to "The Lion King". Maybe the
> Wednesday Matinee? What would you suggest would be the best way to go
about
> getting tickets for this show?

Two friends and I just got Lion King tickets through the conceirge (sp?) at
the Hilton Towers. Pricey, but worth it to us.
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Received: from [209.226.36.145] by web2304.I just recently saw an Art Textbook called Art
Adventure by Davis Publishers.  It is a series of
student texts, teacher guide, posters, slides etc. 
Has anyone used this book? What are the reactions to
it? Is it worth investing in ? Or is there something
else out there that is better. 
The teachers in our school district have few resources
to teach art and are looking for something that will
be worthwhile.   Books are expensive.  Buying books
may take away materials and supplis budget.
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>Does anyone else think that it is strange that the National Art Education
>Convention is about 2 months away and they haven't even begun to register
>anyone? I am.MJ
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Susie, Where do you buy colorplast board.  How much is it? How did you =
fasten it. Will be starting some murals. Lightweight and sturdy sounds =
great. susan in Ohio
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Received: from [209.226.36.145] by web2306I don't know how many of you run Art Club but I am
finding harder and harder to keep the club running. 
The turn out at the beginning of the school year is
always enormous 40-60 students show up all eager and
fresh.  By this time of year, it seems after the
Christmas break, things go down hill.  This week we
had 5 students show up to a meeting.
I have tried different things to keep the interest
there but maybe something more is needed.  We have
worked on ceramic tiles that each student is making as1/18/2001 0:00:00  
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<< Love/Hate relationship with teaching: Kinda long and definately whiney >>
Geeeze - I am having a crisis in the classroom with kids not following my 
teachings from year to year.  I feel like I have to review everytime I start 
a new project.  Fourth
grade still drawing lollipop trees!.  I say = look out the window - draw what 
you see.  Then they draw branches sticking out of the green ball.  Gadzooks - 
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>I live in New Jersey and would really love to go to this conference in NY.
>when is it? and can we still sigh up?????
>
Robin, We are talking about the National Art Education Convention. This year 
it is in N.Y.C. starting March 14, Wednesday, and goes through Sunday. If 
you are a member, your should get a registration form soon in the mail. No 
one has registered yet, But we have had our hotel room since last spring.
If you are not a member, contact the naea for info. on the convention .MJ
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One time I had a student teacher  do a really neat lesson drawing paper bags. 
The bags were lying in their sides with the open end toward the viewer.   I 
think we did them in one point. Then students were to add objects spilling 
out of the bag...some still partially inside, others out. They were to use 
aerial perspective techniques on these objects, as well. Kids had lots of fun 
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One theory that's out there re: "fertility figures" is that they were =
images of the Goddess, who was worshipped long before the God-force =
became "male" in religions.  There are some excellent books on this =
topic, among them "When God was a Woman" and "The Chalice and the =
Blade."
Given that most archaeologi1/19/2001 0:00:00  
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> is there anyone who knows how to store whole newspapers for very long periods of time? is there such a thing as archival (sp?)plastic bags on the order of zip-loc that are made for just this purpose?
> 
Light Impressions has an incredible array of archival materials.  They
carry a deacidifying spray for newspapers, as well as archival plastic
sleeves and acid-free albums for whole newspaper pages.  Call
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In a message dated 01/19/2001 2:34:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
Heyjude5270@aol.com writes:
> How do 
> you all handle general "vandalism" of this sort when you cannot prove who 
> the 
> culprits were? ---
> 
Bill them for the replacement of the materials and say that since No one will 
come forward to take responsibility then they all can share the 
responsibility.  Eve1/19/2001 0:00:00  
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In a message dated 01/19/2001 8:47:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
bkramer@srvusd.k12.ca.us writes:
> I've done rooms, insides of buildings, futuristic
> cities, all the usual stuff but I need inspiration from you all. Thanks
> bunches. Toodles....Bunki
> 
> 
How about  words or Names as solid 1pt or better, 2pt. boxes.  This could 
also include some lettering forms and cases 1/19/2001 0:00:00  
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> Does anyone have a unique project with 1-pt. or 2-pt. perspective for mid.
> school? I'm all thunk out. I've done rooms, insides of buildings,
futuristic
> cities, all the usual stuff but I need inspiration from you all. Thanks
> bunches. Toodles....Bunki
I  put perspective into the rubric for my Surrealism unit for grade 8. They
also have to do face parts and use the "Synectics Bucket", which is a
middle-school version of Roukes' Synectics Wheel.
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Hi Hey Jude,  Hang in there.!! Don't let them see you get ruffled-  get
everything off the table.   Sometimess when I change schools, they will
always try to get my buttons pushed.  Sometimes, I would sit with the
offenders and act like nothing was wrong- they don't know how to react
to that and it puts them off guard- then you can talk to them
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	 for <artsTHANKS ROBIN I appreciate your tips for the soft sculpture and although i am doing this with my Art II students they really need simple instructions.  Any other info that you have would be most helpful and I would like to know the name of the book that you wrote about.
Thanks again.
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	 Fri, 19I like to do block lettering in both one and two point
perspective with small figures added to give a feeling
of monumental scale.  The figures can be perched on or
leaning against the letters.  It gets kids to consider the
concept of scale and how adding a reference into the
picture completely changes the viewers experience.
					Woody in KC
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> school? I'm all thunk out. I've done rooms, insides of 1/19/2001 0:00:00  
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In a message dated 1/19/01 11:51:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
bkramer@srvusd.k12.ca.us writes:
> Does anyone have a unique project with 1-pt. or 2-pt. perspective for mid.
> school? I'm all thunk out. I've done rooms, insides of buildings, futuristic
> cities, all the usual stuff but I need inspiration from you all. Thanks
> bunches. Toodles....Bunki
> 
> 
Hi Bunki
how ab1/19/2001 0:00:00  
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	 for <aryes...there are............I've saved newspapers for years...all the way back 
to MOON WALKS, KENNEDY etc.  but now there's a product that prevents the 
paper from becoming fragile....I can't remember the name of everything but 
SCRAPBOOK stores will know what it is and I even thought I saw it in craft 
stores such as Michaels.
Hope this helps....Marty
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	 Fri, 19 Jan 2001 19:58:20 -08Sorry I am at my drawing class on Tuesdays and it is a bit far to drive but 
it looks fun!
Shar
>Where were you ?  If you were not painting
>watercolors with us at Harmon Tuesday,
>			SHAME ON YOU !!
>	You need to take some time out for yourself and paint.
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bkramer@srvusd.k12.ca.us writes:
> Does anyone have a unique project with 1-pt. or 2-pt. perspective for mid.
>  school? I'm all thunk out.
I'm sure you have done it but I am doing their names in 2-point perspective 
where each of the letters is not just  block letters but must be like 3-D, 
with all lines drawn from the vanishing points.
These can be bumped up with pen and ink textures in each letter, or colorful 
designs with colo1/19/2001 0:00:00  
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	[195.239.1.179]" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2I also have my students (middle school/ and 9th gr Art) do reflection
statements.  In addition to the quiz part I have them "reflect" on:
~ What problems they encountered and how they solved them.
~ What was the most successful part of their artwork  (they must describe
and give supportive reasons)
~ What was the most creative part of their work (describe / support)
~ What changes (to their finished work) they would make and why.
I find it helps me to understand the student and their work better.  1/19/2001 0:00:00  
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	 Fri, 19Sandy, 
	I'm forwarding a copy of my correspondence with
the Getty.  I'm starting to get some up to date mail as of
today.
					Woody in KC
Sandy Bacon wrote:
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> Me, too?  Hey, Woody, oh wise one, what's the scoop?
> 
> Sandy
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> Sea Pearly wrote:
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> > I am only getting a message here and there?
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> > seapearls_@hotmail.com
Here is a letter I sent to the Getty:
        Mark Stone,
        I just downloaded some mail from the ArtsEdNet list.
It was dated Saturday, and th1/19/2001 0:00:00  
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The not-so-funny story about the clay in the fish tank reminded me of
something that happened in our classroom--
Some years back a couple of high school students decided it would be a fun
prank to put leeches in the slip bucket the art room.  This scheme was
somehow executed before Spring Break & upon returning  I was startled to
find a small herd of large leeches doing whatever it is that leeches do in
my slip bucket.  It was so humorous & the student/perpetrators were good
kids-there was no way tha1/19/2001 0:00:00  
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	by mail2.wcc.net (Switch-2.0.0/Switch-2.0.0) withThe acid in the paper would make it very difficult. You would need to put
acid free paper between each page and store in an acid free box. Even then
it would yellow from the acid in the paper.
Kimberly Herbert (kimberly@wcc.net)
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Dear Students in Ms. Thompson's Class,
Your letter reached me in Texas a few days ago. Richardson is a suburb of
Dallas. If we cross a large street, we find ourselves in Dallas. If we go
other directions we are  in Garland or Plano. You can see that the pe1/19/2001 0:00:00  
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	 Fri, 19 Jan 2001 20:27:40 -08yikes!
I've been there-private schools can be heaven or hell.
This one sounds like hell.
I did 2 things with my junior highers-martial law and bribery for lack of a 
better term.
Lock up everything-make the class responsible for all that happens-the 
pencils go missing the class needs to supply their own-and do really 
interesting projects that push at them to keep focused-escher-cartooning 
worked for me-never let them see you ruffled (find the nearest broom 
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	 for <aI used to make playdough for preschool and add food coloring.  You can buy 
any color at a craft store that sells items for cake decorating. I did made 
playdough with black food coloring a long time ago and used it when when 
studied the color black.  I'll send you the recipe if you need it.  Janet
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	by mercury.bigshoes.neI replied to this from school, but for some reason I can receive my home
e-mail at school, but cannot send anything out! For ocean ideas: fish drawn
with glue and either painted or colored w/chalk. Fish windsocks. Underwater
sealife collages (ala Matisse). Paper machete fish/octopus. Self-portraits
of kids wearing sunglasses and a hat (VERY cute!). Draw sandcastles and then
paint w/glue - sprinkle castles w/real sand. Suns. Draw people on the beach.
Draw underwater scenes w/oil pastels on white paper,1/19/2001 0:00:00  
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making contracts work and soon decided that for me,they weren't worth the
effort. Too many parents have perfect kids, or else they are "totally
supportive" with me on the phone but little darlin' doesn't change behavior.
Now, I post the rules on the wall and when the kids don't follow them they
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work, fail. Very simple and much easier on me! And luckily, my a1/19/2001 0:00:00  
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makes me feel like I'm not alone!!  Hard to keep up with all the listings,
though but the gems make me keep up!
Liz
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Also a while ago the Venus figures were thought to be carved by women because
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Sorry - it took me this long to think of the mans name - I think the ocean 
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name is Waylan - he has a website full of his paintings and ideas.  Roberta
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	 for <aOur school library purchased Squiggles, Dots and Lines which I have shown in 
my
classroom.  All students K-5 seem to enjoy it.  My only complaint is,  is 
that it goes
too fast.  I have used Uncle Fred drawing videos in the past; the kids love 
his humor
and it goes slow enough where they can draw along with it, but not too slow 
that they get bored.  Squiggles, Dots and Lines goes too fast to try and draw 
with, but I
still use it.  When showing this video, I also display several of Ed 
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> Does anyone know if Les Miserables is appropriate for MS age kids?  I have 
> never seen it and they're having it at the local stage.  Children 16yo and 
> under are in free.  I'm thinking of taking a kid or 2 from school.
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> As for other tickets, try theTKTS booth in Times Square for 1/2 price 
> tickets,
> and remember they only take CASH.
> 
> 
There is (IMO) a much better place to buy tickets 1/2 price than waiting out 
in the cold/rain, etc. in Times Square.  The World Trade Center has the same 
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	 for <I remember that article and decided to do it.  I used artist profile sheets 
from books I have  from the textbook set by McGraw-Hill ART CONNECTIONS.  I 
copy off the sheet, glue it to a colored folder (a different color for 3rd, 
4th and 5th) and glue copies of art works on the front and inside of folder.  
I made up a sheet called AN ARTIST MINI-REPORT.  Each sheet has four 
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I have begun one just this past week.  I'm still trying to find time to
get stuff on there.  It's sooo easy to do.  Right up my alley.  Betsy
DHJones3@aol.com wrote:
> There is a web site where teachers can go and make a free web site.
> It is
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 good sites for Japanese art?  Since my husband is from Thailand, I like to 
do 
 Asian art.  Except for ink paintings and Gyotaku prints, I havent' done much 
 >>
A few years ago I did paper kimonos with the third graders.  We only did the 
backs
and they understood that they wouldn;t be wearing them.  I encouraged really 
big
designs - dragons, pandas (guess they are from China)  flo1/19/2001 0:00:00  
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> My school is big on this contest held in the Fishing Hall of Fame.  I need 
> some NEW ideas for 2-D and Craft art that relates to the Ocean theme. 
> 
> Marsha
> 
> 
> 
Hi Marsha,
I'm sure youv'e already thought of this , but, what about fish prints on 
t-shirts or paper?   or have a b1/19/2001 0:00:00  
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carving fertility figures / plaster carvingSharon,
    I am curious where you saw this article as I would like more =
information. What were the patterns? The researchers would've taken =
photos. What beside tools were found in the site? Have they been carbon =
dated? What areas were they located in, etc?
    Thanks1/19/2001 0:00:00  
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The ticket booth in the World Trade Center has the same ticket 
arrangement as the Time Square booth. The advantage is the tickets can
be purchased a day or 2 in advance and is less crowded.  The Time
Square booth is for that day only.  (I hav1/19/2001 0:00:00  
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list?  It sounds like there is some kind of easy method that I don't know about.
Could you enlighten me, please.  Thanks again.
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 How about something along the order of Wyland's Whaling walls-he has some beautiful work and a few books are pretty inclusive for examples-could be a group mural or individual-I also saw tried some great ideas by painting fluorescent sunrise beach scenes on sand paper that turned out great-used kids books "Legend of Sleeping Bear,Legend of Mackinac Island, and Legend of the Loon and added black silhoette of something from the 1/19/2001 0:00:00  
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Wouldn't you know-just when I get good using a product-they discontinue it-if anyone out there has ANY "WET SET CLAY by CRAYOLA that you could part with I would gladly pay shipping and of course for the product--Woefully yours-Barb
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I have Squiggles, Dots, and Lines and have used it for many years as a 
supplementaly drawing activity for classes that were finished a lesson and 
or as a reward or at the end of the year. They think it is fun.
Ed Emberley has many drawing books out and, if used in conjunction with the 
video, can assure every child success with cute, cartoon drawings- if this 
is what you are after.
I do not use this as a part of my regular curriculum, however, as I am 
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for K-5.  I use it, also, for silkscreen printing and blockprinting--you
will need to use foam brayers.  There is some confusion in their labeling
of primary colors--ie warm vs cool. If you want to know which is which,
please write back and I will check my orders for the ones I use.  I have
also experimented with Sax school acrylics and found them equal in quality
for my purposes.
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	 Fri, 19Well, Well, 
	the post I sent out on Monday finally got here (on Friday).
But it's good to see that ArtsEdNet is working. I got some mail
yesterday dated the 18th so I guess it's getting back to normal.
Welcome back friends, Woody in KC
Woody Duncan wrote:
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> I'm sending out this link but I'm not sure the Getty list
> is working.  The Scholastic Art Judging in Kansas City
> was Sunday, 1/14/01.  Now for the exhibition at KU.
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floating boxes- surrealist drawings.
I have had kids turn the boxes floating in the sky into cardboard boxes with
things falling out, cars driving in the air, whatever, then they also develop
the background to create a surrealist style.  Betsy
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I wrote an article about making soft sculpture pantyhose.  It appeared in Arts
& Activities magazine about 10 years ago.  I could mail you a copy of it if you
can't find it.
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From: "Catharine" <dennycat@hkstar.com>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Adventures in Art by Davis is a good series. I use it and like it  and 
highly recommend  the teachers guide. Generalist will need some help in the 
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Do you incorporate contest into your lesson plans or do you pull work from 
students portfolios to enter.
Do you see contests as beneficial or detrimental to most students.
Have you read any research information on contests lately?  
I am taking an art ed reasearch class and thought it would be informative 
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	 for <artscan you please send me the directions that you have for the pantyhose sculpture.
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In a message dated 1/19/01 10:56:40 AM, bkramer@srvusd.k12.ca.us writes:
<< Does anyone have a unique project with 1-pt. or 2-pt. perspective for mid.
school? I'm all thunk out. I've done rooms, insides of buildings, futuristic
cities, all the usual stuff but I need inspiration from you all. Thanks
bunches. Toodles....Bunki >>
Hi,
How about a table in two-point perspective. The table can have boxes of 
cereal, milk, ....
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 Having just finished 3 tile murals-our entire school district had each school make one via the art teacher's classes and afterschool community time (families,staff and businesses came in and painted a tile) we found the liquid underglazes to be the best used with a fine brush, then some outlining done with the I call it underglaze puffy paint-it is in small plastic tubes and does clog easily but gives a little raised texture -t1/19/2001 0:00:00  
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I'm curious about the amount of glaze used for # of tiles painted...and the 
cost for commercially firing the tiles.
Thanks
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE=2>I'm curious about the amount of glaze used for # of tiles painted.1/20/2001 0:00:00  
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	 for <artsedthanks, I wouls love to have a copy...
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	 for <artThanks for the update NAncy and all your hard work putting it together.
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> Has next year's national conference location been announced?
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I believe it's in Miami.  Strange that it's on the East coast twice in a
row.
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	 Check out Irvin Panofsky's works on Netherlandish art.  That might be helpful 
as well. I think there are two volumes.   Also, try the Flammarion 
Iconographic guide to The Bible and the Saints by Gaston Duchet-Suchaux and 
Michel Pastoureau, ISBN 2080135643.  Both of these books would prove 
extremely helpful to you.  
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I'm interested in more info on projects and use of plaster and vermiculite.  
Sounds interesting.
Thanks.
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<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT  COLOR="#0000ff" SIZE=2>I'm interested in more info on projects and use of plaster and vermiculite. &nbsp;
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	Les Mis is perfectly appropriate for Middle school kids.  The broadway 
scenery/stagiing is awesome and the music is perfectly beautiful.  Check out 
the London production (you probably can get it at Blockbuster, but it is 
shown regularly on Public TV.  Master of the House is probably the most 
questionable song in the whole show; it's a littly bawdy, but nothing 
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	 for <arSquiggles Dots and Lines is a great video,my younger students love it.
I use it with subs sometimes. 
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I sent in a survey card to Davis Publications, they sent me THE WHOLE SET K-6 
OF ADVENTURES IN ART AND ART: IMAGES AND iDEAS AND a WORLD OF IMAGES for 
FREE- TO KEEP!  
This company is AWESOME!
I use the books on occasion with lessons. I like them, they are sequential 
and progressive- but I tell you, I mostly have my own ideas and use other 
references- because I have amassed tons1/20/2001 0:00:00  
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`pg 440-
Nasco Art Word Search Puzzle Books
book 1 -25 word searches #9709388 $8.10
book 2- #9711964 $8.10
or- the 2 set- #9712173 $13.95
Nasco's art puzzle and exercise workbook
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Nasco'sa Mystery Masterpiece puzzzle book
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 ps the last one is new in the 2001 catalog- I know I'm definitely gonna 
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looking for discount books go to websiteabebooks.com
Hope this helps Christine in Binghamton
someone on the list provided this site earlier
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<BR>Hope this helps Christine1/20/2001 0:00:00  
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BUNKY- I ALSO DID THE NAMES IN PERSPECTIVE
I had the students make a black and white grid (in perspective) behind their 
perspective names in color.  Then I passed out 3D glasses and they viewed 
them with them on (glasses were left over from an old yearbook order)  The 
students loved them!  I'll look for some pictures, scan it and send to you if 
you want.
Kathy in Kalamazoo
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The fifth annual National Black Fine Arts Show will be held  at the Puck 
Building, 295 Lafayette St. at Lafayette and Houston Street in Manhattan on 
February 2 - 4, 2001.   Admission for children 16 and under is free with at 
least one adult.  Friday seems to be the best day to take classes to view the 
art work.  Great show and there some of the artists and sculptors are there 
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I dont know about you folks , but today I had 165 emails!!!  Of course 
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RecIck.  The only thing that ever ended up in my clay bucket are those long 
pushpins we use for critiques.  Then if a student reaches in to get a 
handful of clay, they also get a pushpin.  I'm glad I don't work in that 
school any more!!
>
>The not-so-funny story about the clay in the fish tank reminded me of
>something that happened in our classroom--
>Some years back a couple of high school students decided it would be a fun
>prank to put leeches in the slip bucket the art room.  This scheme wa1/20/2001 0:00:00  
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perspective from a lesson I got here using the boxes and the letters of the 
kids first name. Did with fifth grade. Challenging but the kids enjoyed it. 
Janet
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You sure have a better sense of humor than I do.  
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committee and I like the ADVENTURES IN ART ALSO.  Maybe you can get the book 
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RThe same thing happens to me.  I think the students get caught up in jobs, 
sports, homework, etc.  We plan fun activities - it's not a reflection on 
US!
>I don't know how many of you run Art Club but I am
>finding harder and harder to keep the club running.
>The turn out at the beginning of the school year is
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	 for How about colored tape? Just cut out designs and stick them on.  You could 
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Don't let them see you get ruffled-  get
>everything off the table.   Sometimess when I change schools, they will
>always try to get my buttons pushed.  Sometimes, I would sit with the
>offenders and act like nothing was wrong- they don't know how to react
>to that and it puts them off guard- then you can talk to them
>about themselves  and try to get a feel for where they are coming from.
Betsy's advice is very good! makes sense!
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>I do a great project with soft sculpture with my 5th graders.  We use mesh
>(pantyhose..but I don't let the kids call them that!!!) I have a book which
>gives specific directions for the creation of the little bodies.  If you
need
>that, I will post it.  We do person sculptures and some of the children
>create scenes.  Last year we had a wedding that was just adorable.  I only
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>the heads and then mount them on babyfood jars. We then dress the bases 1/20/2001 0:00:00  
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America! It is wonderful to see the photos and to think about how far it has 
traveled since it was at our school. Was I ever suprised to see the work of 
one of my students in the lower right corner!! Wish I could remember who the 
kid was.....they''ll help me out on Monday. Thanks, Mary!!!
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> t I need inspiration from you all. Thanks
> > bunches. Toodles....Bunki
>
> --Bunki et all,
I don't know if anyone else has mentioned it but I've done mazes with my HS kids.
Incorporated texture and value and color int this with paint , marker and colored
pencil. some kids even drew figures or lettering in some spaces. It was a great
lesson in having things overlap or underlap, soze, shape etc.
Just and idea.
Gelato
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If anyone needs rooms / suites, he will be setting up a special rate.  Just 
mention the Art Conference.  See you there ! 
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going back at the end of the month
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I need some help on figuring out what to use to decorate gray PVC pipe. My 
sixth graders have made digeridos (sp?) out of PVC pipe. Each one has about 
six sections. We want to decorate them with Australian-type designs, but I 
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Several people have emailed me privately wanting more information so I 
dug out my notes from the conference.
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I wish I could refer you to something published. I heard this in a
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	 for <artsedHere is a recipe for a sand mixture to make permanent sand castles.  I am 
doing this at a Talented and Gifted workshop and with my kindergarteners.
Everlasting Sandcastle
4 c sand
2 c cornstarch
4 teaspoons cream of tartar
3 c hot water
I got this from a  book called Sandcastles:  Great projects from mermaids to 
monuments.
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Leo,  It sounds as if you've done some pretty cool things with the art club.  
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Maybe your club members would like also to do something for take home.  Our Art Club do some outreach..like share an art project with orphans or invite  guest artists to come over and show or demonstrate an art craft or technique or watch art films and yes..the all time favorite which is the field trip.
Hope this helps.
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In a message dated 1/19/01 10:48:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
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> sbennett@erinet.com (Susan Bennett)
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Dear Susan,
The coroplast was provided by the sponsor of the project.  I'll try to call 
her and find out where she purchased it.  When the mural was completed it was 
easily nailed up to a plywood wall, I'm sure it could also be nailed to 
shee1/20/2001 0:00:00  
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Has next year's national conference location been announced?
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	 Sat, 20Welcome Back,
	At least I think things are almost back to normal.  I'm 
getting mail that's only one day old now.  Let's see how long this
message takes.  Hopefully the amount of posts that only say,
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<< Pour the mixture into a balloon and have each student kneed their
balloon until it hardens. Peal the balloon off and carve in the resulting
shape.
 >>
I took this idea and had the kids pour their plaster into plastic bags to 
set. As the plaster set they shaped the bag into a rough facsimile of the 
plan for their sculpture. It made it easier to get them away from the form of 
some geometric carton. And it saved a lot of carvin1/20/2001 0:00:00  
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	 for <arhey group....not quite a ga-zillion but it's very nice of Judy to post if for 
me.  The kids will even close their eyes...pull out an assignment and if they 
don't like it, they'll close their eyes again and pull out another one!  So 
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skygeoff@home.com writes:
<< Wait until February and the calendars will go down in price to one dollar 
or a
 dollar fifty.  Try Borders and other bookstores, too.
 
 Sky
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Thanks Sky....I always forget that the calendars go down in price and waste 
my money.   E
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	by pandora.chariThese books are excellent.....initially in Australia under the title of
Discover Art by Laura Chapman...excellent series...though I just used the
teachers;s editions cheaper that way.
I like what Laura Chapman does and says about Art education.
Carol in a warm and hot South Australia about to start the school year next
week.
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	[194.154.91.148]" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[I was listening to BBC this morning during the "arts" segment.  On the
heels of the Chicago's Cow's  Display (a thread that came up on the list
several summers ago), Toronto is doing a moose theme this year.  From the
broadcast, it wasn't clear whether the moose are already on display or if
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bkramer@srvusd.k12.ca.us writes:
<<  I've done rooms, insides of buildings, futuristic
 > cities, all the usual stuff but I need inspiration from you all. Thanks
 > bunches. Toodles....Bunki
 >  >>
For my Studio Art class (mostly 9th graders) I assign a two point perspective 
city block.  They use paper around 12 X 18, draw their first vertical line 
some where around the center of the paper but below the horizon line with the 
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that I would not refer to them with 5th grade boys that way. Do you buy them or
get people to donate them?
Lin
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> I do a great project with soft sculpture with my 5th graders.  We use mesh
> (pantyhose..but I don't let the kids call them that!!!) I have a book which
> gives specific directions for the creation of the little bodies.  If you need
> that, I will post it.  We do person sculptures an1/20/2001 0:00:00  
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	 Sat, 20 Jan 2001 08:09:05 -080Gabrielle,
Is it o.k. to use vermiculite in elementary school? And , where do you got 
it? Is it expensive? Thanks, MJ
P.S. I have a student named Gabrielle and I am so proud I knew in advance 
how to pronounce her name correctly thanks to you!
>Hi, Christene,
>I have a great carving recipe, But I dont use industrial plaster-too hard.
>
>mix 2 parts Vermiculite
>with 1 part plaster of paris.  You need to mix this dry first to avoid the
>lumps.
>Next, Add 1 part water plus a little more (like a 1/20/2001 0:00:00  
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NAEA  MEMBER  BENEFITS  UPDATE
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FOR RELEASE
JANUARY 19, 2001
NEW NAEA MEMBER BENEFIT LAUNCHED
Museum Resources For Art Teachers to be issued in February
RESTON, VA-NAEA Executive Director Thomas A. Hatfield announced today that
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focused on bringing artists and cultural groups to public schools through 
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>I'ts called THE ALPHABET OF ART
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>They are fun informative sites. Janet
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>Gabrielle,
>Is it o.k. to use vermiculite in elementary school? And , where do you got
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>P.S. I have a student named Gabrielle and I am so proud I knew in advance
>how to pronounce her name correctly thanks to you!
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In a message dated 1/19/01 12:12:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
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> a unique project with 1-pt. or 2-pt. perspective for mid.
> 
i don't know about unique... but my 8th graders have enjoyed making their 
names in 1 or 2 pt. perspective block letters. then we paint them with 
watercolor, incorporating them into the background as though they were 
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> What is week of the ocean? I love the ocean, do you need art lesson ideas,
>  or is this a book? Susan in OHio
I need lessons. Have dozens of reference books. Most of everything has been 
done before... Fish prints,etc. Has to be mostly 2-3 although they have a 
crafts section in the contest.
I am looking for a NEW twist on the gyotaku (fish print).  First grade  did a 
crackled watercolor background an1/20/2001 0:00:00  
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	 for <What about more process oriented projects?  (Marbling, paste paper) Or 
putting together a portfolio for college applications?  Or putting together a 
career day?
Not sure what you're looking for.
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In a message dated 1/19/01 11:52:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
mjart49@hotmail.com writes:
> >Need a reply, please. Second post and no ideas. Help!!!
> 
A few weeks ago I posted a couple of fish lessons.  One was using stuffed 
brown grocery bags as armature for papier mache fish. The other was creating 
fish out of Model Magic Compound.   Create a ocean atmosphere by hanging1/20/2001 0:00:00  
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	 Sat, 20 Jan 2001 07:53:04 -080I haven't recieved any registration yet either! We have had our room 
reserved since last spring. We have our plane reservations. But we have not 
registered for the convention yet. Where did you hear that Feb. 9 was the 
last date to register? I think this is really odd. MJ
>
>Has everyone received their registration form for the conference? I'm
>starting to worry- the deadline is Feb. 9! Nothing yet in my mail.
>Please advise, I am looking so foward to attending!
>
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bkramer@srvusd.k12.ca.us writes:
> Does anyone have a unique project with 1-pt. or 2-pt. perspective for mid.
>  school? I'm all thunk out.
I'm sure you have done it but I am doing their names in 2-point perspective 
where each of the letters is not just  block letters but must be like 3-D, 
with all lines drawn from the vanishing points.
These can be bumped up with pen and ink textures in each letter, or colorful 
designs with colo1/20/2001 0:00:00  
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I'm sure youv'e already thought of this , but, what about fish prints on
t-shirts or paper?   or have a bunch of crafty supplies and have them make
fishing lures.  Design your own rubber duck (pre-purchased) then have a
rubber duck regatta.
Oooh, neat ideas! I have the printmaking fish (I am not even going to
attempt the spelling of Gyot...?? this early! *L* The rubber duck idea could
be tied in to the New York Cow Exhibit, Toronto Moose, Cinncinati Pigs,
Rhode Island Mr. Potato Head, etc, etc.1/20/2001 0:00:00  
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Maggie, 
This would work well for those precious drawings that the Tads do on
newsprint that will too soon deteriorate.  I have some treasured
drawings that my niece did on newsprint and I know they won't last.
Now I will treat them and give them to her when she is 40!
I have some old samples that students created when I could not afford
good drawing paper.  I am assuming that the spray changes the PH and
stops the deterioration.
This is very timely  and as usual you are very thorough in givin1/20/2001 0:00:00  
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>  CW 
>  
For all the questions about  True Story, I posted a thing about a week ago 
about this old lady who lost her car. It is a hoot. Being from FL, the home 
of the chad, I thought this story might add to the notority of our state. So 
for all the ones who have posted a question about " what true story?", here 
it is again. If you have read it, please delete.
Marsha
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In a message dated 1/20/01 1:28:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
ytsirk_uno@yahoo.com writes:
> Does anyone have any other ideas to share in how to
> keep an art club vibrant all year.
> 
> 
> 
How about throwing in a food related project?  I include an ice cream 
sculpture "party" for my art club and the kids love it!  Cake sculpture, 
chocolate paintings, or vegetable and fr1/20/2001 0:00:00  
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In a message dated 1/20/01 9:10:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
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> Hi Bunki 
> how about their first and last names above and below the horizon line?  I 
> did 
> this in three pt perspective... I got the lesson for Ken Veiths book "from 
> ordinary to extraordinary"  a great book! 
> Peace 
> Gabrielle ---
> 
Hi, Bunki!  Gabrielle took the words ri1/20/2001 0:00:00  
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	 for <arThe Lion King tickets are very difficult to find.  Those that found them 
through the conceirge lucked out...........
In the middle of Times Square, there's a TICKET outlet - you can't miss 
it...where they sell 1/2 priced tickets  at the last minute. The available 
tickets for shows are posted......Mart
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	 for <arMaggie, that's it...Light Impressions....
hey..I tried.  Marty
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	by mail2.wcc.net (Switch-2.0.0/Switch-2.0.0) with SMTP id Personally I find those contests are detrimental on the elementary level.
They help convince the children that Sally and Martin are the ONLY artists
in their grades. In upper grades they can be introductions to the real
world.  I help with judging PTA's Reflections, and have displayed art work
from city contests (so that more kids would have their art on display), but
I will not allow our student show to be turned into a contest. Instead I
strongly suggest that the if a teacher has more students than 1/20/2001 0:00:00  
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> can you please send me the directions that you have for the pantyhose
sculpture.
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          smtprelay1.abs.adelphia.net (NetscI can't think that vermiculite is any more harmful than plaster dust for
kids to work with, and I do all of the mixing of this myself.  When the kids
are carving the plaster/vermiculite forms, there's absolutely NO dust
because it's very damp.  I have them discard the shavings that come off
(though I've thought about saving them to model from....) and so the only
real contact they have with it is with their hands.
Again, I really like this mixture because it's so easy for the kids to carve
and it's1/21/2001 0:00:00  
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fantastic...we have decided to skip the panty hose part!!!   
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	id <D1KKSA9X>; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 19:08:5	BJ - thanks so much for sharing - 
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> I doubt there are any rooms left at the Hilton but here
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          by mtiwmhc21.worldnet.attIn addition to the Muse d"Orsay and the Rodin, you 
can't miss the Louvre.BUT:
Buy a mueum pass in a tobacco shop before you go to ANY 
museum. This entitles you to go directly to the door. 
The long lines are usually for the ticket buying.
AND get a guide to the Louvre before you leave home (a 
video would also help) and decide what you want to see. 
Familiarize yourself with the floor plan. It's very easy 
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  I thought the weird comment at the end of the post (you know the one
about "you should not be teaching art") was from a oujii board...because
I too, couldn't see any connection from the original post and that
comment. I believe that whatever you have to do to keep kids busy when
they finish early is  your way of surviving a difficult situation.  We
are all spinning plates when we teach and we don't want any plates to
fall down and break.  If having an activity center works for you to keep
y1/21/2001 0:00:00  
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	 Sun, 21 Jan 2001 14:I began teaching the second level of computer graphics at our school in 
August and I tried to find some nifty computer art without a lot of help. 
Carolyn Roberts has some good ones but I can't find the links right now.  I 
began the semester with the horrible cookie-cutter Adobe tutorials that come 
in the handbook and decided the kids were learning technique but no real art 
content.  What I've decided is that I should create lessons on the computer 
from what I already know about art.  It's really1/21/2001 0:00:00  
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were you working?
could you send specifics?
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	 Sun, 21A while back I received an e-mail (message below) about World Printmakers
Web page. I added the link to my Printmaking Web page
(http://www2.wcoil.com/~mdecker/prints.htm ). I assume the forum he was
referring to is the Getty list.
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Dear J Decker:
I ran across your comments about printmaking on this art forum,
and I'd like to invite you to have a look at our new printmaking site:
http://www.worldprintmakers.com .
If you're interested in printmaking you might1/21/2001 0:00:00  
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Hi Dennis,
    I too am invited to attend RIT-and thanks to BJBerquist who posted =
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          (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 Occasionally, I'll tell my high schoolers that are done first to do another
of the same and I'll grade the best one.  Many times (but not all the time)
the first attempt is rather exploratory and by the time the student is
finished, they are just getting the hang of it.  So, sometimes it gives the
ones that struggle another opportunity to show what they can really do.
BF
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	by imo-r19.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v29.5.) id 6.ac.fe1fcf3 (25105)Vermiculite used to be hazardous, but  I understand the formula has been 
changed.  It should be ok to use with elementary, but I'd teach them not to 
brush it or blow it around in the air.  You should be able to buy it in 
garden shops.
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> > >Is it o.k. to use vermiculite in elementary school? And , where do you 
>get
> > >it? Is it expensive? Thanks, MJ
> > >P.S. I have a student named Gabrielle and I am so proud I knew in 
>advance
> > >how to pronounce her name correctly thanks to you!
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I'm just wondering if someone other than kkroll wrote that note??  The =
spelling errors are somewhat of a giveaway.  In any case, it was very =
unnecessary, unprofessional and quite rude.
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I fought that at first too at the middle school -now I'm at the High School 
where I pride myself as a college prep course.  I loose many non believers at 
the end of Art 1.
But when I first started teaching at the middle school, I wrote a 
"commitment" letter which I explained to the students and told them to go 
home and "explain" it to their parents. At this level of learni1/21/2001 0:00:00  
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	 Sun, 21Thank you Melissa, 
	As usual your photos are fantastic.  I might steal the colorful
sky for a watercolor source.Thanks for posting everything.
				Woody in KC
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> I hope you have had a chance to look at my online web album of my
> trip. Here is what I have written up and will include with my photos.
> Some research as well as personal comments.
> The web page again:  http://www.zing.com/album/?id=4293132631
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trying very hard to include art history everywhere I can.   I came up with a
good list of sculptors that would tie into THIS abstract form.
Jean Arp(Hans Arp)
Constantin Brancusi
Barbara Hepworth
Jean Dubuffet
Henry Moore and  Umberto Boccioni ( I'm also going to tie them to the
Plaster and Vermiculite Sculpture)
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Hey Jean,
                   you asked:
       How does the wire stay in the wood base?=A0
Hot glue or wood glue.  We also just made one hole instead of two and twiste=
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the wire together before inserting it in the one hole. =20
        Do you have to do anything to make sure the sculpture does not fall=20
apart?=A0
There are many ways to stiffen them before p1/21/2001 0:00:00  
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I still haven't tried this but I'm getting closer..... :-)
How big/thick should the wooden base be? =20
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> i don't yhink youbshould be teaching art
If you're going to be critical, and not even constructively so, at least
try to appear as educated as the person you're criticizing--proofread
before you blast off.
Maggie
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What is your point?  How can you evaluate MJ's teaching from these few
sentences?   What is there in her post that is so damning?
I remember one of your earlier quips about not living in the south
because of the Southern Baptist. Judgmental comes to mind! I couldn't
let your condemnation of MJ go unchallenged.
How do you deal with students that are finished and ask what to do
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	 Sun, 21Lisa,
	Lamp bases ? 
Do you need holes for wires ?
Are they electric lamps ?
I have fired some hollow things, without holes for air
to escape, I very slowly but it is still risky.  By slowly,
I mean 24 hours on low with the kiln lid propped open 
a bit.  Then the next day I close the lid and go from about
200 degrees ??? to cone 05, 1904 degrees in about 7 hours.
I'm using raku clay and some students forgot to cut a hole
in the back of their sculptures.  They did not crack or explode
this time,1/21/2001 0:00:00  
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Vivian
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Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 12:14:55 -0500
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I tried to get to these sites but was not succesful. Any 
suggestions?MJ
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>try www. guidancecom.com/alphaber/
>I'ts called THE ALPHABET OF ART
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>  Another is:  
www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Orchard/2704/stereo1.html
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>They are fun informative sites. Janet"
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Message-ID: <20010121211932.1I guess I have been in the Twilight Zone. I received
digests from 01/11/01 to 01/20/01 today.
That was a lot of reading to catch up on ;?P
Since I see hotels are being mentioned for the NAEA, what
is closest to the Hilton that we can call for
reservations? Or does anyone have a room to share with 2
delightful art teachers from Destin and Niceville,
Florida?
And on one last note:
I applied for the fellowship for 2001 Basic Photo/Imaging
Workshop for Educators at Rochester Institute of
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<P>Thanks. Will you be there as well?</P>
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If you have concerns about any substance in art materials you should check
it out, and asking on the list is a good way. A warning though, just because
something is natural does not mean it is safe. Asbestos is a naturally
occurring substance that was mined and often appears along side talc (also
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In a message dated 1/21/01 10:17:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
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> Is it my imagination or am I now getting 2 or 3 or 4 of some messages?
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When I used to go to Paris (in the dark ages) I used to walk, and walk, and 
walk, and walk.
I used to break the walking with Croissants, escargot, books and wine, 
talking, museums and more food.  I used to go once a year, in April, until 
money became the problem.
Fabulous city!
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principal on school stationary, or pay check stub.
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In a message dated 1/21/01 11:09:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, GloryB808 
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	 Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:15:05 -I went to Sam today to see the Sergent exhibit-Wow!
If you are in the Seattle area it is worth seeing!
My boyfriend fell in love with a painting of his (opps forgot guys don't 
fall in love with paintings!)  Called The chess game!  I can not find a 
print of it anywhere though!  Anyone have any suggestions?
here is a link to a copy of it
http://home.talkcity.com/EaselSt/johnsingersargent/The_Chess_Game.htm
Thanks
Shar
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Here is my page with computer art lessons...
http://cyber.lenoir.k12.nc.us/khs/croberts/roberts2.html  =20
These are just based on lessons we might regularly do in an art class.
One thing I did with my high school classes this semester was to first =
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In a message dated 1/21/01 9:59:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
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> Gelato... 
> Your maze perspective sounds very interesting.  Is there anyway you could 
> tell me more?  How do you have the kids start?  Do you have them measure 
> the 
> spaces.  How long does this usually take them?  More info would be very 
> helpful as I would like to try your l1/21/2001 0:00:00  
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In a message dated 1/21/01 4:19:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
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> > >Gabrielle,
> > > >Is it o.k. to use vermiculite in elementary school? And , where do you 
> >get
> > > >it? Is it expensive? Thanks, MJ
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> In addition to the Muse d"Orsay and the Rodin, you
> can't miss the Louvre.BUT:
> Buy a mueum pass in a tobacco shop before you go to ANY
> museum. This entitles you to go directly to the door.
> The long lines are usually for the ticket buying.
>
Is there such a thing as discount passes to museums for art teachers?  I
thought I had heard something about that somewhere.  If so, how would one
get one?
Liz in1/21/2001 0:00:00  
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In a message dated 1/21/01 3:41:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
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> I loved all the art museums in Paris,however, some were very crowded and/or 
> 
We were in Paris last July and love it more and more each time we visit.  The 
Picasso Museum, actually one of his homes which was converted into a museum 
is spectacular!!!  Wait until you see all the p1/21/2001 0:00:00  
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If I were going to teach computer art -after teaching the mechanics of the 
computer, I would begin with the Elements and principles of art relative to 
technology.  This is how I'm going to introduce photo next year.  You will 
have to dig up some samples or make them up yourself.  Composition is a must 
to review -no matter what medium.  Go back to the basics.  You can even 1/21/2001 0:00:00  
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> Vivian Sample wrote:
> 
> I am teaching an after school computer art class to fourth and fifth
> grade. All we have is Mac paint. They know all the basics now. Does
> anyone have any ideas for interesting lessons or a source to find
>1/21/2001 0:00:00  
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In a message dated 1/20/01 5:39:58 PM Central Standard Time, JEMILTD writes:
<< For all art teachers within driving distance of the New York City area:
 
 The fifth annual National Black Fine Arts Show will be held  at the Puck 
Building, 295 Lafayette St. at Lafayette and Houston Street in Manhattan on 
February 2 - 4, 2001.   Admission for children 16 and under is free with at 
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In a message dated 01/20/2001 4:46:47 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
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> Contest and what you think of them.  
> Do you incorporate contest into your lesson plans or do you pull work from 
> students portfolios to enter.
> Do you see contests as beneficial or detrimental to most students.
> 
I give the information of contests to my students and explain tha1/21/2001 0:00:00  
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	id AA30412; Sun, 21 Jan 20Two students in my class finished making beautiful ceramic lamp bases just
before Christmas break.  I completely forget to make the holes in the base
ahead of time, and now they are bone dry.  Will it work to fire a hollow
piece that has no holes for the air to escape through?  Or is it best to
try to make the holes in the dry clay?
Thank you for your suggestions!
Lisa
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> I have an "Eary Bird Center" I have built a library of drawing books that
> they can use. There is paper there that they can draw on. I also have a
> scrap box that they can make anything they want. In past years I have had
> plasticine clay for them to use, but sometimes this can be too attractive
to
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Hi everyone, My wife and I are traveling for the first time to Paris for our 
winter break, Feb 17th-24th.  Actually this is one of the first times we ever 
travel outside of our state.  I am planning our things to do list and I was 
wondering if any of you have been to Paris and would have things to suggest 
to see and do.
I am already planning on seeing the art museums, but maybe1/21/2001 0:00:00  
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>I do a great project with soft sculpture with my 5th graders.  We use mesh 
>(pantyhose..but I don't let the kids call them that!!!) I have a book which 
>gives specific directions for the creation of the little bodies.  If you
need 
>that, I will post it. 
Could you please post the name of this book?  Thanks!
Mishy
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In a message dated 01/19/2001 10:37:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
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> Does anyone have any other ideas to share in how to
> keep an art club vibrant all year.
> 
> 
> 
In my art club we travel to different museums and will be seeing a demo on 
glassblowing etc.  We don't do actual art works because they are all in my 
classes anyway so they are g1/21/2001 0:00:00  
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          by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.attI doubt there are any rooms left at the Hilton but here 
are the numbers:
212-586-7000.
For the "overflow," Sheraton:
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<< I'll look for the article if you wnat it. I 
 tore it out of the magaizine for my file. Janet >>
Janet - this idea about the artist mini reports is great - if you find the 
magazine article
I would love to read it.  thanks  Roberta
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past week. The new work is listed as "New" (clever don't you
think?......ha-ha)
http://elms.elida.k12.oh.us/~jdecker/studart.htm
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	 Sun, 21Hey...We are back. I am re-posting this for those who were not able to check
the posts in the archives:
I saw Marty got a ga-zillion requests for the "Drawing Drawer" idea for
"What do I do when I'm Finished?" ---I put it up on the Web for all of those
"me too" folks out there:
http://www2.wcoil.com/~mdecker/drdrawer.htm
Linked from:
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Last summer when I couldn't keep up with requests for files --I posted the
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> I start out showing kids how to press out a slab from a pre-balled piece of 
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Gelato...
Your maze perspective sounds very interesting.  Is there anyway you could 
tell me more?  How do you have the kids start?  Do you have them measure the 
spaces.  How long does this usually take them?  More info would be very 
helpful as I would like to try your lesson with my 9th graders.
Thanks!
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	 for Sounds very intriguing.  I'll have to check out my local  wall paper store 
and see what they have.  Sounds like they project you described was a scroll, 
but the material should work for fans also. Thanks for the idea. Janet
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	 for you use dish detergent, liquid tempera paint, and water.
Put about a cup of water in a straight sided container like a drinking cup. 
You should fill the container about half full, so gauge your amount of water 
by size of container. Pour about 1-2  tablespoons of liquid dish detergent (I 
use something clear of white) and about 3-4 table spoons of liquid tempera 
paint in the water. Stir and mix.  (This might take some experimentation)
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  Ken-if you are open to an unique experience, visit the catacombs in
Paris.  They are underground (so weather is not an issue).  As Paris
expanded all the cemeteries in the city proper, brought the bones of the
deceased and replaced them in the catacombs.  Millions of people in one
spot.  The bones are carefully arranged, you can see the love and care
taken to give the deceased a final resting space.  Some areas the skulls
are arranged in design patterns. The Smithsonian magazine had a
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I loved all the art museums in Paris,however, some were very crowded 
and/or so huge. Don't overlook the Musee d'Orsay. It has a very nice 
collection of VanGogh's, Monet's and others of the period. Also some 
Art Nouveau pieces, a beautiful Degas sculpture, and more in a 
beautiful restored railroad station. Small enough to see the stuff 
and not to many people there. I also would recommend s1/21/2001 0:00:00  
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Thanks Michal, I was going to ignore it but since you responded I will too. 
I don't understand the negative comment anyway. It is really too bad because 
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I was in Paris last summer on my honeymoon. I lived there for almost two 
years and never realized that Auvers-sur-Oise was so close!  My husband and I 
took a one hour train trip, and explored the town that Van Gogh spent the 
last two months of his life.  We saw the church that he painted, walked in 
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I am in Indonesia, unfortunately (or fortunately?). How about you? Where are
you?
What I am working is to introduce (particularly) traditional performing arts
from all over the world, although the primary materials will be Indonesian
arts, but I am putting them as the "world arts," a kind of survey class,
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> <<  I've done rooms, insides of buildings, futuristic
>> cities, all the usual stuff but I need inspiration from you all. Thanks
>> bunches. Toodles....Bunki
Bunki, I have my kids draw one piece of furniture.  We cut out pictures from
Ethan Allen and Pottery Barn catalogs.  They always want to do couches but I
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My name is Debra and I have been "on" the list for two years as "listener." 
To make a long story shorter, I received my certification 2 years ago, did 
some sub teaching, then got a higher paying job in a grocery store decorating 
cakes, a job I have had off and on for over 20 years. I did teach art briefly 
at a middle school, but in keeping this on the short side, I felt had to 
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I ,too, work in an affluent private school and had similar problems at first.
The teacher before me gave all "A"'s, did alot of cleaning herself and had 
not shown the students how to respect her room, her supplies, or each other.
It took several weeks, but I know if you set the rules it can be done-because 
I have.
Like raising your own children, they need instructions, boundaries, love and 
responsibility. Be very firm, but do it with a warm smile.
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I have only been teaching K-8 art in the classroom 
since August, but am already burned out. Earlier in
the year, I  had to go through many hassles 
with parents over grades.(The former art teacher gave 
out all A's.) The junior high in particular is the
problem. Their behavior has been just 
deplorable.
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Their parents are very non-supportive and constantly
make excuses for them. It is truly pitiful. In 
the meantime, I find myself dreading to go to work 
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My thoughts on art competitions at the High School level....
Contests are posted for all to enter but Art 1 & Art 2 cannot substitute a 
contest drawing for one required for class.  Art 3, 4, 5 &6 may work on a 
competition piece as one of my requirements however it must incorporate MY 
requirements for them.  It is usually just the "Theme" that they can adjust.  
Students are very1/21/2001 0:00:00  
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>>>Debra in Idaho
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Debra,
A decent G4 MacCube and monitor with extra RAM, which you'll probably need
for your graphic intense programs are about $2,000 each. That usually does
not include the graphics software you wish to purchase. For pricing
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Hi Leo,   am currently using the Art Connections series (K-6) which is a SRA
publication.  I think it is very good- comprehensive designed sequential
lessons emphasis on elements.  Lots of visuals and oodles of resource
materials-ie: vocab, test prep, home connections, artist profiles, etc.
Videos are also incl .ie: totem poles of the Nw. Email me if you have ques-
PS, I had Discover1/21/2001 0:00:00  
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Get a drill bit from the shop instructor and use it to make your holes.
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> Two students in my class finished making beautiful ceramic lamp bases just
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I hope you have had a chance to look at my online web album of my 
trip. Here is what I have written up and will include with my photos. 
Some research as well as personal comments.
The web page again: http://www.zing.com/album/?id=3D4293132631
I really enjoyed my trip and would love to do it again. In Dogon 
country, there are so many villages, e1/21/2001 0:00:00  
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	 for <arI missed the movie discussion, Judy...what's the title? Appropriate for 
Middle School?
I'm interested in the maze too...
Marcia
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	 for <I found the article. It was in the October 1997 School Arts issue. If you'll 
send me your snail mail address, I'll send you a copy. Janet
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Thank-you for your e-mail message. I am away from the Clark until Monday, January 29. I will respond to your note then. 
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> Here is a recipe for a sand mixture to make permanent sand castles.  I am
> doing this at a Talented and Gifted workshop and with my kindergarteners.
> Everlasting Sandcastle
> 4 c sand
> 2 c cornstarch
> 4 teaspoons cream of tartar
> 3 c hot water
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Received: from [140.254.113.135] (ts19-16.homenet.ohio-state.edu [140.254.11Dear Debra,
        I am just a lowly K-5 art teacher, but if I had your opportunity
and budget, I would go for a couple of color laser printers, Elmos, a
ceiling mounted computer projector, Macs equipped with Video In and Out
connections and DVD capabilty    ..... and reims of paper:-)!
Congratulations to you, have fun and Good Luck!
                Ann-on-y-mouse in Columbus
|grows to support a full time graphic arts teacher. Now comes the fun part. I
|have at my disposal about 20 THOUSA1/21/2001 0:00:00  
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>Subject: Re: Week of the Ocean/bubble prints
>Date: Sun, Jan 21, 2001, 11:04 AM
 What sponge?  I didn't see any reference to a sponge.  Did I miss a
post?
<snip>
>  Remind kids to blow out of the  sponge.
Sharon from NJ
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>> <<  I've done rooms, insides of buildings, futuristic
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 with Our chapter of NAHS does decorating projects for school or for nursing
homes, etc. We have visiting artists for demos, do crafts (at Christmas
thes tudents made those clear glass ornaments filled with paint.
That was a winner. We always have a group of students work on a sample and
then have them teach the craft to the main group rather than the teachers
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to do that for our fEb. meeting of NAHS. Can we make our own molds in
clay? has anyone done that? The sets in the catalogs are really expensive.
Thanks for any information. Fran
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boasts about its "grease cutting" ability.  I was doing this with
kindergartners and we used Dawn or something and couldn't get it to work
well.  Apparently it messed up the consistency of the paint or something.
When we tried with another type of detergent, it worked fine.
Sharon
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Air expands as it heats. If there is not room for the air to expand it will
cause the pieces to explode. You can still add holes carefully. Won't you
need holes to attach the "lamp parts" later anyways? Good luck!
~Michal
> Two students in my class finished making beautiful ceramic lamp bases just
> before Christmas break.  I completely forget to make the holes in the base
> ahead of time, and now they are bone dry.  Will it work to fire a hollow
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> Adjust the amount of water, paint and soap until lyou get a good print.
> Darker colors work better than lighter.  Remind kids to blow out of the
> sponge.  I've even done this with pre-schoolers with good results. And my
> fifth g raders thought it was great fun. They did the still-life. My second
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From: JoAnHeiman@cs.com                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            A local visiting artist(ceramicist) gave me piles of dry wall approx. 30 
inches by 30 inches. I put clay projects between them to dry and they 
always came out nice and flat.
Our clay faces was a wonderful project that introduced clay techniques as 
well as portraiture. The second graders did not do them alone. Every year, 
I would have a Senior Citizen Appreciation Day. The grandparents or senior 
of their choice (sometimes a neighbor or a great aunt) would spend a 
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  (SMTPD32-5.05) id ABD934500090; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 2Kimberly -- Are you a member of a teacher's union?  I just got a notice
about a grant today -- an NEA Fine Arts grant program "to create and
implement fine arts programs that promote learning by students at risk of
school failure."  Info is at the web site:
www.nfie.org/programs/neaarts_guidelines.htm or you can just go to
www.nfie.org
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P.S. Whoops I just re-read your letter where you refer to elementary aged
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Hi Mark,
I can't believe you were in Wenonah.  It is a quaint little town.  However,
I'm moving to Voorhees (as soon as I can find a house that is) because I'm
tired of the commute.
Are you going to the convention in NY?  I hope so because I would love to meet
you.  I'll be there Fri., Sat. and Sun.
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> > since August, but am already burned out. 
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> > How do you all handle general
> > "vandalism" of this sort when 
> > you cannot prove who the culprits were?
And then I wrote:
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> Check out:
Oops.  I put the website's URL in those 
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Here it is "again":
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  I spent a week in November (during the election) in Paris.
Here's my two cents.
After the Louvre, D'Orsay and Pompideau:
See the Cluny Museum (medieval art)
Go to Versailles (It was free on Sunday when I was there-check guide
book)
When using the Metro (Metro stations l0 minutes walk from everywhere in
Paris) buy a Carnet (which is 8 tickets) it's cheaper.
Le Marais section is full of galleries, little stores, good food,
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I have just posted the 2001 NAEA Annual Convention Pre-registration form and 
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	 for <artsednI bought a book at our book fair called Chuck Close:  Up Close.  Pictures are 
great.  Also, if there is a Kinko's nearby, you can make self-service color 
copies, 11" x 17" for $2 each.  Now I am not advocating breaking copywrite 
law....but...if this is the only way to share the art with your 
students...then I guess the means justifies the end!
Good Luck!
PS...I mount the prints on that self-stick foam core...they are light, 
durable and a fantastic way to share art with the students.
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you received on plaster. What a great idea! What if whoever asks for
specific info recaps after a couple of days. It seems I always miss some of
the comments if it's not something specific I'm looking for right now.
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Hi GAng,  a bit off topic, but if you'd like to be pin pointed on the map, 
reply to the link below.  I'm hoping some of you overseas folks will chime in!
Thank you
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	 for <artI LOVE THIS....HOW GREAT THOSE TIMES WERE.......but this internet stuff is 
rather intriguing!  Oh yeah...don't forget the ball against the wall game...
"plain-zees"
"clap-zees"
"whirl-the-ball to bap-zees"
"high-ball"
"low-ball"
"touch my knees"
"touch my toes"
"and around I go"!!!
Anyone remember that?
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	 for <artseI used pieces of two by fours as a base.  We have had 
quite a bit of building going on in town.  So I went around to 
some of the sites and asked if I could have the scraps.
They were gald to get rid of them.  It wasn't even necessary to cut most of them.  I also was lucky enough
to find a stash of wire at the dollar store.  We were
able to make larger sculptures using the wire instead of
coat hangers.  Love the dollar store!
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	 Mon, 22 Jan 2001 15:57:30 -lol when it rains it pours!
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Fear is the mind killer.
Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me,
I will turn to see fear's path.
Where fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.
-Frank Herbert's,Dune
Shar Arndt
teacher and artist
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Hi Dennis,  =20
I was also granted a fellowship at RIT, and am looking forward to =
attending.
Thank you to BJBerquist, who posted the original information.
Dorothy Kane
Lakeland High School
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	 for <arForgot to mention...ALWAYS have Francs (coins) with you. Paris bathrooms are 
NOT free.   They have a NEW thing in the street for emergencies. Coin opens 
the door. You do what you need to. Leave. Door locks. The whole darn thing 
turns UPSIDE-DOWN!  Steam jets clean it and then it is ready for the next 
person and is spanky clean. Must try one!
Marsha
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	 Mon, 22I have some links for abstract sculpture (knee-highs and wire project):
http://www2.wcoil.com/~mdecker/sculpt2.htm
There isn't much Dubuffet sculpture on the Web...but thanks to Connie--I
will be looking up Brancusi and Hepworth.
Judy
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THis does sound interesting!  I teach 9-12 in art and this would seem =
like a real different angle for learning perspective.  SO, add me to =
your list of those who'd like more information, please!=20
Thanks!
BF
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The Spanish teacher has asked me to help her decorate the gym in a =
jungle motif for a Spanish performance and Spanish jungle party (?) =
they're doing in early February. I thought I'd spend a couple of 5th =
grade classes, but I'm drawing a blank, except for Rousseau (French, =
dawn!). Any ideas?
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There is a great picture book named;
The Great Kapok Tree: A Tale of the
                     Amazon Rain Forest
                     by Lynne Cherry, Lynn Cherry, Deborah
                     Halverson (Editor)Voyager Picture Book; ISBN:
0152026142
It is also available in Spanish- El Gran Capoquero : UN Cuento De
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	 for <aIn a message dated 1/21/01 12:04:52 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
Mcracker@aol.com writes:
> I need some help on figuring out what to use to decorate gray PVC pipe. My 
>  sixth graders have made digeridos (sp?) out of PVC pipe. Each one has 
about 
>  six sections. We want to decorate them with Australian-type designs,
How about paint-pens which are more permanent. I know it sticks to bottles. 
They can do very fine "dot" pictures after some of the Australian art.
Marsha
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	Thank you to everyone (from 3 different mailing lists) for 
all the helpful hints on plaster carving.  For those who have been 
following the thread, let me try to recount all the tips I have 
received to extend the plaster and possibly make it easier to carve 
(if I have left one out, please step in...):
- add equal part to plaster: sand
- add equal part to plaster: vermiculite (flakes) or pearlite (little spheres)
- for additional color: coffee grounds
- for softening hardened plaster1/22/2001 0:00:00  
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>  I am planning our things to do list and I was 
>  wondering if any of you have been to Paris and would have things to 
suggest 
>  to see and do.
>  
Ken, I'm excited for you!!!   Was there in the Summer. I suggest you go to 
Borders or B&N and look at their tour books for Paris. The best ones will 
have maps, places to see. I like Rick Steve's because he seems to take you 
off the beaten path.
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When I was in college our prof had us plug up the sink and fill it, then
yank the plug. This seemed to flush out the drains pretty well. Good luck.
Becky
Hi -- hoping this makes it to the list!
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Its funny (not ha ha funny, but strange) that someone
would make such a negative comment about one of our
ideas, when at the same time it provided a springboard
for a solution to my early bird problem. One of our
teachers resigned last semester and gave me a poster
that was a little cheezy for my taste. It said "You
are not finished when you lose, you are finished when
you quit." So, being an art teacher, I couldn't throw
it away. I cut out "you are not finished" to hold up
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Received: from [198.24To Touch a Life
  Her name was Mrs. Thompson.  As she stood in front
of her 5th grade class on the very first day of
school, she told the children a lie. Like most
teachers, she looked at her students and said that she
loved them all the same.  But that was
impossible, because there in the front row, slumped in
his seat, was a little boy named little boy named
Teddy Stoddard.  Mrs. Thompson had watched Teddy the
year before and noticed that he didn't play well with
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  Her name was Mrs. Thompson.  As she stood in front
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	 for <arOne idea.........TWIST bulletin board paper into tree limbs....add whatever 
else does the trick....so they look like jungle trees........
This could be a really kookie suggestion now that I re-read it...but that's 
what popped into my head..........mART
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> I have an assignment to find the meanings of the
> various icons painted in the Merode Alterpiece by The
> Master of Flemalle.  Can anyone help me to locate a
> book which wouldhave listed such.  I have Gardner's
> Art Hisory, which lists some of the major icons, but
> not all.  Thank you
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I waited until the list was working properly before answering this, so
hope this info is not too late for you.  A few years ago I attended a
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It has been several years since I tried this, but I remember it working out
well!  You rolled the clay to a little less than a quarter inch in thickness -
sorta like pie crust only a little thicker.  It was rolled out on cardboard.  An
irregular shape with rough edges was fine.   Actually, a ragged, cracked edge
looked good.  The kids then rolled a second piece of clay on burlap.  I'm sure
that you could add texture to either slap in many different ways.  It depends on
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croberts wrote:
> Here is my page with computer art
> lessons...http://cyber.lenoir.k12.nc.us/khs/croberts/roberts2.htmlThese
> are just based on lessons we might regularly do in an art class.
Oops I forgot,
Loooooooong ago I asked about screen printing and Worhol type images.
Somebody on this wonderful list asked me to let th1/22/2001 0:00:00  
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Hi Gabrielle and Iteachart,
I started the mazes with the basic rules of perspective. We did a series
of boxes above and below the horizon line. We did the same exercise with
2 point perspective. These were done in their sketch books as
exploratory exercises. then I had the kids attach each box to another
box with only horizontal or ver1/22/2001 0:00:00  
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felsecker1 wrote:
> THis does sound interesting!  I teach 9-12 in art and this would seem
> like a real different angle for learning perspective.  SO, add me to
> your list of those who'd like more information, please!Thanks!BF
hope I explained well enough,
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Marian...I have to check the details on the Scholastic awards brochure...to
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> for those who rush through their work because of
> laziness, and I cut out the word "quit" to hold up
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> Jayna
Jayna... I love it!  My HS kids come in every day asking if "they can go
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if "they can go there".  I tell them "no", and they say "please", and I say
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keep asking... "why not", "why not", "why not", etc.
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How did you bend it?  Sounds interesting!
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These examples by your students are magnificient!! thank you for sharing your 
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on both sides.  That way the platelets all line up and you get less curling!  
also even drying helps....
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to find any, so I checked a book out of one of our high school libraries and 
scanned a few black and white, color and his more abstract ones.  I made sure 
to include his self-portrait as I was doing self portraits.  My second 
graders were awed by his work. I would love to buy some bigger prints as the 
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I may be able to order some prints soon. (yay) since my big Crizmac order 
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> In a message dated 1/13/01 2:21:12 AM, vsample@midsouth.rr.com writes:
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> << I am teaching an after school computer art class to fourth and
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> Does anyone have any ideas for interesting lessons or a source to find
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hello ...
Mac Paint is limited ... all programs are.  My suggestion for the 
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Now that I have that great recipe for plaster carvings here's the question:  
Does the material produce a lot of dust when carved?  Some of my children 
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3.      Can you buy the glasses separately after you have the lesson plans?
I think this would be a fun Summer For Kids activity and we have 10 kids per
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What a week I had last week! Clay! I decided to make ceramic picture frames 
in 2nd grade. I gave them a template, they cut out border and inside 
rectangle for the school photo. Then they were to put texture on front, name 
etc. I put them on styrofoam for the kids after having rolled out tones of 
clay. What a lot of work. Them some dried a bit curved, a couple broke. Ack! 
I should have done something less labor intensive. I'm going to look through 
some of the notes from this liost again. 1/22/2001 0:00:00  
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	by >Thank you Melissa,
>	As usual your photos are fantastic.  I might steal the colorful
>sky for a watercolor source.Thanks for posting everything.
>				Woody in KC
Woody,
You should have seen the sky for yourself - The incredible colors, 
enhanced by the cock-a-doodling of the roosters and the braying of 
the donkeys made quite a scene.
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            Im looking for a $50 - $500 grant to support a new
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>  <A HREF="http://www.si.edu/resource/faq/nmah/textiles.htm">Click here:
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> http://www.si.edu/resource/faq/nmah/textiles.htm
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	for <ar>They have been getting progressively more and more plugged and our
maintenance >person doesn't seem to know how to clean them out.  Do any of
you know?  They >are cylinders with an in pipe and out pipe and a knob on
the top, I'm assuming >that's for taking the cover off.  But with the
limited room under the sink how >would we clean out the cylinder, assuming
it's full of gunk? 
The knob on top should turn and the lid should lift off the trap.  If it's
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I have two sinks and each of them has a clay trap. They get cleaned
only after they've been plugged solid and I've left daily notes in the
custodian's box for a week. 
They hate cleaning them out. It seems that the plumbers who installed
the traps put them so high up that the basket thingy can't clear the
bottom of the sink without being tipped on its side, spilling foul goop
smime all over the floor. 
They've suggested that they be reinstalled properly so that routine
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	id JAA09The USC Department of Art History will be hosting the Eighteenth Annual
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Something to brighten your day.
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Close your eyes.....And go back in time ...... Before the Internet or
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I'm talkin' bout hide and go seek at dusk.
Sittin' on the porch, hot bread and butter.
The Good Humor man, Red light, Green light.
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	by servGreetings.happy 2nd Semester everybody!
	Since we've been discussing clay lately I want to ask this question.
My fingernails are lifting (becoming unattached) and I am wondering 
if this is a result of working in clay.  I have already ruled out 
injuries and fungus.  Does anyone else have this problem or knowledge 
of it?
	Thanks!
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	by m   Frederick Church did some fantastic paintings with South American
landscape themes. Also, look up Baron von Humboldt, a  famous German
scientist who who traveled widely through  and studied the Americas.
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spend a couple of  5th grade classes, but I'm drawing a blank,  except for
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I've had trouble uploading information to the museum album.
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at the University of Southern California
presents
 
The Eighteenth Annual Getty Lectures
March 27, March 29 and April 3, 2001
SVETLANA ALPERS
Professor Emerita, University of California, Berkeley
and Visiting Research Professor, New York University
Three Ways of Looking at Velazquez and "The Spinners"
Tuesday, March 27
Singularity at Court
Thursday, March 29
The Painter's Museum
Tuesday, April 3
A Resemblance to Manet
The lectures will be held 1/23/2001 0:00:00  
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Kkroll said she didn't know where it came from.  I vote we move on.
Betsy
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> I'm just wondering if someone other than kkroll wrote that note??  The
> spelling errors are somewhat of a giveaway.  In any case, it was very
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The rude comment thread:
When I strongly disagree with a post I usually go to the archives and
sort by name and read other posts by the person before I answer to
get a feel for that persons posts.  Most times I find that the general
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district because he had given conduct grades for behavior in music that
kept kids off honor society and his principal changed them.( After
complaints from parents)  He sued and one-meaning the grades stand as
given. Anybody else read about this?  Betsy
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> I'm going to Paris too (in April).  I've been making note of all the info.
> I've been reading.  I've been twice before but have n1/23/2001 0:00:00  
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I missed the  ugly comments you and others have mentioned--probably just as 
well, but  a couple of years ago, some nasty guys found their way to our list 
and got downright ugly.  After a few of their ravings,  replete with awful 
spelling, grammar, and bile,
we figured they must be a couple of  crazies with nothing better to do.  
Artsednet then started requiring membership to post to the list.  Maybe  that 
went by the boards with the new system?
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	 foHelp! Lost my "Favorites" when kids re-booted aol because their IM froze!  I 
am NOT a happy camper - but I'm back -unfortunately with emply files.  If 
possible could you wonderful  art teachers send me your web site addresses at 
my school mail?:
CHSartSCHIAVO@netscape.net
I do so need your inspiration and promise to send you my site -up and running 
by the end of summer. (my deadline)
Thank you!!!!!!
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Tour Effiel...fabulous asian art collection.  Last time I was in Paris,
it was closed for renovations, so it should be spectacular now.
Also, my brother tells me that the Jeu de Palme ? and Orangerie have
just reopened...the the Jeu de Palme is wonderful also.  Most of the
works that are now at the d"Orsay were once poorly exhibited
there...they were not acceptable to the Louvre.
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	 for <artseHere is the text of his speech:
Remarks By The President In Submitting Education Plan To Congress
  
WASHINGTON, Jan. 23 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The following was released today by 
the White House: 
The East Room 
1:08 P.M. EDT 
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Secretary. I appreciate you being 
here and it's good to see a former secretary of education here -- Lamar, 
thank you very much for coming; surrounded by two fine Texans, I might add. 
(Laughter.) You are in good position. I wa1/23/2001 0:00:00  
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          (Post.OfficeThe Formula 1 (Formula Un they say) chain has rooms in Paris for
$40.........I think that's Canadian $40....a night. Very modern, clean, one
double bed and one single bunk  per room . Self-cleaning bathrooms and
showers down the hall..kinda space-agey looking., they clean themselves as
soon as you leave. Breakfast available, I forget whether it was included,
continental of course. Near the subway.
   Our family of 4 backpacked around Europe for 5 weeks this past summer,
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	 for <artsedMy students did these beautiful paintings with oil crayon and babyoil.  
Colors are so vibrant and they really worked hard.  Anyway....one 
problem....cannot get them to dry!  They are still oily and rub off on 
fingers.  AM I dreaming or is there some stuff you can buy to spray on oil 
paintings to get them to dry faster???   
Help!!!  Want to put these in our upcoming art show (8 weeks away!)
What are the odds that they can be ready by then???
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  withon 1/23/01 6:28 AM, Andrea Dunmire at artshui@hotmail.com wrote:
> 
> Anyway, my mind is straying to thoughts of spring and, what else, Youth Art
> Month.
> Was curious as to how you all plan to celebrate this year.
> 
> 
> Anyway, I am looking for some new ideas.  Any one thinking of this yet?
Andrea - Here at GRHS, we have a senior show, which is a juried event.  It
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	 forMark - this might be too "elementary" but if you want to get k or lst 
involved you can make paper bag monkeys.  The little kids love them and the 
bigger kids would have fun too.  Take a paper lunch bag and stuff with 
newspaper.  Cut round circles to create for heads, half circles for ears, 
long rectangles for arms and legs and then kids trace their own hands for 
hands and feet, glue all together create a tail from one large circle and cut 
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I've been without my computer for about a week ( talk about withdrawls!). We
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I had 500 e-mails to go through when we this thing was fixed, so I had to
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Also thanks Marcia for recognizing my article in School Arts! I haven't seen
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x-acto knive and spinning it slowly but persistently.  If the pieces are
made well it's no problem--much of my student's work is shaky so it's a
risk.  Wheel thrown bowls are easy to pierce--like to make a plant
container. 
 On the ceramics note--I'm having a real problem with bubbles
in my glazes.  What causes this?
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I always try to put up some information/history on all the activities that 
the kids do in art.
I have been looking for some history on the color wheel..who first developed 
it..what country was he/she from.  I have not had much luck finding what I 
want.  If anyone out there can help, please post it or email me.
Thank you all and have a good day
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Please don't forget the Sainte-Chapelle.  The chapel is on the Ile-de
France, the island between the right and left bank, near Notre Dame. It is
as close to heaven as you'll get on this earth.  Amazing windows.
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>I have carved holes into dried but not fired pieces by using a sharp
>x-acto knive and spinning it slowly but persistently.  If the pieces are
>made well it's no problem--much of my student's work is shaky so it's a
>risk.  Wheel thrown bowls are easy to pierce--like to make a plant
>container. 
>
> On the ceramics note--I'm having a real problem with bubbles
>in my glazes.  What causes this?
Bubbles in glaze can be from a few different things.  A couple t1/23/2001 0:00:00  
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>What a week I had last week! Clay! I decided to make ceramic picture frames 
>in 2nd grade. I gave them a template, they cut out border and inside 
>rectangle for the school photo. Then they were to put texture on front, name 
>etc. I put them on styrofoam for the kids after having rolled out tones of 
>clay. What a lot of work. Them some dried a bit curved, a couple broke. Ack! 
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Often overlooked but quite special:
Tha Marmottan museum of all Monet's work.
Also the Rodin sculpture garden.
Rick Steve's book is super, I agree
So is the Michelin RED guide for where to stay and where to eat. You can
even buy it in French, because the symbols are universal.
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horizon line and create a "fan" with 1 point coming from the center of the
horizon to equal divisions on the bottom of the page.  Then they put a
ruler diagonally 
from the lower corner to the horizon and mark off every place the ruler
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Something that I've done with classes that have a group of kids who can't =
or won't take care of supplies is (1) put all the good stuff away before =
they come in  and (2) get each student or pair of students their own =
supply set. Each of my naughty 8th graders has his or her own box of 12 =
colored pencils, own water color set, and own brush. They have their names =
written on them in sharpie marker and are kept in a box with the hour =
labeled so I can have only that group's supplies out when t1/23/2001 0:00:00  
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	 for <artsednMy K-3 clay projects so far this year have been:
K-  pinch pots, imaginary animals
1-  Bugs (to go with bug unit integrating science curriculum)
2-  Gargoyles (learning trapped air form)
I love clay so will probably do coil pots with the Ks later in the year.  I 
try to do at least one clay project per class, but this year, have been 
getting though the clay so most classes will do at least two clay projects.  
If you have the set up (and I am luck I do) then clay is inexpensive and easy.
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long as it is applied well, it looks and lasts well too. 
Amy R. 
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 07:55:43 -0Here in Bryan Texas we are planning our first district wide art show -
ARTFEST.  We will have approximately 900 pieces of artwork to display. 
Students work which is displayed will be cataloged for the community.  We
are offering  door prizes which have been donated to students whose work
is displayed and we are offering donated artwork from students and gifts
from he community are being used as door prizes for the community.  As
next year approaches, we are going to offer hands on activities for thos1/23/2001 0:00:00  
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          (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP This is a response to Liz. A few of her 2nd grader's clay picture frames
warped or cracked.  This is a common problem.  Here is a web page to help
solve this.
http://www.goshen.edu/~marvinpb/dryingslabs.html
Marvin
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there are highlights ABOUND (so hard to choose)! I have two tips.
1.  If you are a Monet fan (or even if you're not!) GO TO MUSEE de
L'ORANGERIE (by the Place Concorde) just to see "Les Nympheas."  It's a
small museum, easy to see quickly, but the clincher - there are two massive
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but the moderate Republicans are urging him to drop them, so other reforms
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exhibit. This year Im changing the format for our 2nd-3rd Grade and 4th,
5th, & 6th Graders blocks. Instead of having 1 morning a week with 3 classes
back to back. They each will have 1  hour block Wednesday, Thursday, and
Friday mornings. This will allow for more complicated projects with drying
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I'm looking for art teachers in the central Massachusetts area who are 
looking to pursue a master's degree in art education at a location in or 
around the Worcester area.
I'm from Worcester and commute to Cambridge to Lesley Univ. one night per 
week. (I would rather not commute.) Lesley Univ. will open up an off-campus 
site if there is enough interest - 3-5 people, I believe, is the minimum 
number of people. 
The Art Ed. program at Lesley is outstanding. I had not had any teaching 
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Good Morning All,
It is a fine winter morning here in Landenberg, Pa.  Everything is covered 
in snow; there is a fine mist hanging close to the ground through which the 
sun is attempting to emerge.  AND the temp is around 8, that's right I said 
8 degrees!   Brrrrrrr! but beautiful.
Anyway, my mind is straying to thoughts of spring and, what else, Youth Art 
Month.
Was curious as to how you all plan to celebrate this year.
I always do a take-home family project that is then displayed around th1/23/2001 0:00:00  
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Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:48:25 -0I am the district art coordinator and believe me , I set up various sub
committees.  I applied for grants through the local educators foundation. 
Each level, high school, middle school and elementary was awarded 1500
dollars in grant, total of 4500 dollars.
1.  Getting display boards built.
2.  Designing a floor plan on how the tables and display boards would be
arranged.
3.  A food committee for the teachers, all day event, we are paying
ourselves.
4.  Door prize committee - Prizes can be picke1/23/2001 0:00:00  
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	 for <artseI have a wonderful book that not only gives the history of color, egg tempera, oil, etc.  but explains how to mix color and how to work with black.
The Book of Color    Jose M. Parrpmon
Watson-Guptill Publications   
Good luck   Barb in Texas
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My 7th graders just finished their pinchpot rattle pigs (I made a powerpoint
presentation on the Cincinnati Pig Exhibit to inspire them). I emphasized
the fact that air expands as it heats, so make sure theres a hole in the pig
somewhere since they are hollow. We then moved onto coil pots. One of my
girls asked me while she was cleaning her coil pot if she needed to put a
hole in the bottom. I asked her why she thought she needed a hole in the
bottom and she told me she didn't want it to blow up. I 1/23/2001 0:00:00  
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Jackie,
A few questions-
How did you organize such an event?   How many schools/levels are involved?  
Where is it being held?  How are you planning to bring the community in?  
How will you distribute the door prizes?
Sounds like it will make quite a splash!
On 1/23 Jackie Aust wrote:
Here in Bryan Texas we are planning our first district wide art show -
ARTFEST. We will have approximately 900 pieces of artwork to display.
Students work which is displayed will be cataloged for the com1/23/2001 0:00:00  
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	by mercury.bigshoes.I am assuming you are looking for elementary? Besides the clay aquarium idea
recently posted (awesome idea!!), how about clay fish? Two colored papers
stapled together & stuffed w/newspaper and decorated w/oil pastels, wind
socks, paper machete octopus, watercolor boats on the sea, outline fish
drawing w/glue and apply color w/paint or chalk. Draw fish w/markers and add
small pieces of foil (Rainbow Fish). Draw sandcastles and paint w/glue -
spread sand over glue. These are just a few off the top of m1/23/2001 0:00:00  
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Message-ID: <20010123152152.2Dorothy, 
I am one of the recipients for the RIT fellowship. I
think I have been approved to go. I have to write an
inservice component.
Email me directly.
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	 for <arI am looking for a subtitute for Krylon High Gloss spray varnish.  I need 
your help.  I'm trying to find an less toxic material that will coat flat 
surfaces (small jewelry pieces) in GREAT numbers.  I would prefer something 
that could be brushed on.  I'm getting dusty dirt particles when I use the 
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JUST FINISHED CHECHING THE NAEA CONFERENCE SITE
www.naea-reston.org site.  All the information for
registration and workshop selections has been po1/23/2001 0:00:00  
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writes:
<< Our paper today had an article about a music/math teacher who sued his
 district because he had given conduct grades for behavior in music that
 kept kids off honor society and his principal changed them >>
I am with the music teacher on this one.  Geeeze it happened to me last year
In fifth grade I give combined behavior grades with product grades and 
average them..  One young man
had consistent S- and U1/24/2001 0:00:00  
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>jungle motif !). Any ideas?
>
>Mark, You can make some good jungle trees with rolls from the carpet 
>store.Paint them brown, set them in 3lb. coffee cans with plaster in it. 
>Cover the cans with tall grass- green paper. Cut huge palm leaves, about 4. 
>  On the bottom of the leaves(the underside), glue a flattened wrapping 
>paper roll. Stick the end of the leaf into the tree trunk and let most of 
>the leaf hang over. You can also hang green crepe paper from the ceiling 
>with green paper le1/24/2001 0:00:00  
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	 Wed, 24Here are some sites I found using Ixquick
History of the color wheel:
http://www.busybrushes.com/Classroom/colorhist.html
http://www.cs.ius.indiana.edu/AK/DCLEM/Web_Docs/ptgguide/ptggd7.htm
http://www.woodfinishsupply.com/ColorTheory.html
Interesting site on SCIENCE of color:
http://www.sci-ed-ga.org/modules/materialscience/color/
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Venice, Florence, Rome
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$2205 total (including fees and taxes) per person 
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	 Wed, 24You can find just about all of your answers to your ceramics questions from
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Marvin gave me some links for my ceramics' links page last summer. I have
added a link to his home page as well to the helpful hints pages he
suggested:
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X-Sender: c1261017-a.pinol1I am hoping that you may now have some information that you are able to share with me! I teach the first grade and am planning to have my students each make a banner that says PEACE in a foreign language. Unfortunately, I have not been able to find much information. I have 37 students and so I am hoping to find at least that many translations of the word PEACE. If you have any information that you are able to share, I would be most grateful!
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> 1.      Do you have to have special paints or just
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Kim, 
     I tried the glasses on some paintings my HS class
had done and they worked just as well as the Sax
cover.
     My kids had a ball looking through books and
anything else they could find to see if they worked. 
Paint does seem to work best.  Colors of red, orange,
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>My students did these beautiful paintings with oil crayon and babyoil.
>Colors are so vibrant and they really worked hard.  Anyway....one
>problem....cannot get them to dry
My fourth graders did some lovely ,huge(18x 24) Geogia O'Keefe flowers with 
oil pastels and blended them with baby oil. I sprayed them with a fixative. 
It made them look shiny and really nice. They also didn't rub off after 
that. Hais spray might work too. MJ
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Just to correct a typo the author is Parramon.
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Hi Mark,
In an elementary school I subbed in once the teachers decorated the hall
like a jungle. They used brown roll rack paper and twisted it in different
thicknesses to make trunks and branches and vines-then added paper leaves.
It looks basi1/24/2001 0:00:00  
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addresses (and for Kathy who lost all hers) look at 
http://www.slo.nl/~ict/praktijk/beeldend/bronnen.html
The describing text is in Dutch, but the contents will be clear enough I 
suppose.
let me know what you think of it.
Ben in NL
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Hi All!  Re: I think these glasses are so cool.  Thanks Sax!
Thanks so much for your input regarding the Sax cover.  From your =
responses, I think it is a hit.  One thing that I would encourage you to =
do is to try the Sax 3 D kit found on page 6 of the 2001 Sax catalog.  =
It is product #300 8745  $19.95  to learn1/24/2001 0:00:00  
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the Sax catalog, product #190 2014 $11.95 for a 8 oz bottle.  It speeds the
drying rate on both oils and acrylics.  I don't know the effect on baby oil
but it might be worth a try.  Hope this helps.  Judy
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http://members2.clubphoto.com/art216973/ try hitting refresh or clearing you
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Farenheight  (SP) in your head. Just know from mid teens to mid 20's is in
the comfortable range, below wear a sweater above dress for heat. I do this
every summer in Canada. I go to the beach with my family, or water skiing at
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	My daughter (18 yrs) and I are going to Italy this summer.  We had
planned to go on our own but then I saw your list info.  Please e-mail the
details and maybe it would work for us to go with you.
Thanks Robin Lea,  Raleigh, NC
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How would one design a "Rosa Parks" bus for a school play (African American 
Heritage Month in Feb.).  The little ones would ride in it too, but how?  I 
was thinking of gluing large poster paper it to large cardboard, but how 
would the kids manipulate it? Thanks in advance!!
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	 for <artseour district uses first class.  Only just recently became available at home!  
It is ok....e-mail and chat availabe as well as a user list.  I don't know if 
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	by oHI Ginny where ever you are!
I need an updated e-mail address from you to send the updated Art Across
America schedule to you!
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Judy Nagel wrote:
> FYI A friend of mine forwarded this to me.  I thought it would
> interest you.  Judy
>
> Related stories:"Mozart Effect Goes Only So Far, Study Says," Sept.
> 27, 2000. "Classroom Renaissance," May 10, 2000.
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> E-mail this article. Hi Judy, Great article- Thanks for posting.
> Where did it come from?  An article in Newspa1/25/2001 0:00:00  
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	by oLinda if you are out there , I need an updated e- mail address from you.
I sent out an update about the Art Across America schedule and got it
returned from your address.
Contact me!
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One idea.........TWIST bulletin board paper into tree limbs....add whatever 
else does the trick....so they look like jungle trees........
This could be a really kookie suggestion now that I re-read it...but that's 
what popped into my head..........mART
Not Kooy at all!  Our Science teacher (5-6 grd) does a rain forest in the 
hallway every year.  She twists the brown craft 1/25/2001 0:00:00  
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I received your info today- THANKS! After looking it over I'm wondering if it is
too hard for middle school. What do ya think?
Mary
wjbaas@execpc.com wrote:
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> Glad to have you back,
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> m bolyard wrote:
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> > had a big crash and now we are up and running again. So if any of you had e-
> > mailed me and I didn't reply ,please forgive me an1/25/2001 0:00:00  
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In a message dated 01/25/2001 11:49:18 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
dmortl@hotmail.com writes:
> Does anyone know where to get good compasses that LAST??  
Yes, I received a sample of a small plastic compas that rotates and will use  
the pencil into a small hole and then spin it around by moving the pencil.  
It's bright reddish pink with a clear center.  This is used in elemen1/25/2001 0:00:00  
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In a message dated 1/25/01 8:50:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, FHSART@aol.com 
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> Being from Texas I can tell you first hand that he has done nothing for the 
> "Arts" nor for education in our state.  Teachers are at the bottom of the 
> salary scale and I shudder to think that he wants some type of national 
> testing!  
> 
> 
Sigh...I wasn't going to jump in on this t1/25/2001 0:00:00  
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Except for H.R.17 Younger Americans Act (Introduced in the House),
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c107:2:./temp/~c1079Pzpml::  there are
no bills regarding art, art education, cultural literacy, or the visual arts
currently listed on the site
Kimberly Herbert ( kimberly@wcc.net <mailto:kimberly@wcc.net> )
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          (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 For those asking about pricing of the 2002 Italy trip from gateways
other than DFW, below are the details I have received today from the
group travel desk:
Regards from Texas,
Pam Stephens
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The price from New York is: $2045  We use J.F.K. and LaGuardia
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	by mail2.wcc.net (Switch-2.0.0/Switch-2.0.0) with SMTP id f0The following are education bills that are currently before the US Congress.
The links at the end of each bill should take you to the actual text. In
case it doesnt work here is the URL for the search page
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/c107query.html In the word/phrase search type in
education.
1. Character Counts for the 21st Century Act (Introduced in the House)
[H.R.228.IH]
<http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c107:1:./temp/~c107qd1q7G::>
2 . Keeping Our Promises to Special Education Act of 2001/25/2001 0:00:00  
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I recently exhibited a work at  The Morris Museum in New Jersey.  The work is 
an outdoor sculpture that is exposed to the weather and we have had a lot of 
that.  It was purchased by a patron and gifted to the Museum.  The title of 
the work is "Microwave treehouse".  I need to know if there is some superhard 
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READ IMMEDIATELY AND PASS ON TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW
Someone is sending out a very cute screensaverof the
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	 for The compass Ken was refering to is a "Safety compass"
Works great for small areas- but only up to 6" , if I remember correctly.
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	 Thu, 25I downloaded the registration materials and made out my budget
to try and get funds from the district.  Hard to believe I got air
fare round trip from KC to NY for $106 (vanguard airlines).
I'm booked at the Best Western President Hotel for six nights.
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Received: from pPlease see my original message below.  You will have to subscribe to
their free newsletter in order to get the pattern.  If there's a phone
number, perhaps you could call them and request it.
Maggie
felsecker1 wrote:
> 
> Hi Maggie:
>     I've seen the chair idea, but could you run us through getting to that
> exact activitiy, step by step.....I've searched that website and can't seem
> to find the chair directions.  Thank you!!
> Barb F.
> ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > You can vis1/25/2001 0:00:00  
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I want to thank all of you who posted responses to our Paris trip.  We have 
gotten some very good Ideas and I will be doing them when we are there.  My 
wife has especially liked reading the mail and she is amazed at how many 
responses I got and how interesting it was to communicate within a discussion 
group.
Thanks again to everyone.
Ken Schwab
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	by mercury.bigshoes.neThey sell a resin at most auto supply stores that should work. They use it
on boats as well as cars so it should work well. I used it for "monster
drool" when one of my students made a screamer years ago.
~Michal
>I recently exhibited a work at  The Morris Museum in New Jersey.  The work
is
an outdoor sculpture that is exposed to the weather and we have had a lot of
that.  It was purchased by a patron and gifted to the Museum.  The title of
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	 Thu, 25If you are doing prints from cardboard or "collographs",
let me suggest "Jazz" as a topic.  The Ken Burns series
now on PBS would serve as a resource.  I used "KC Jazz"
as a subject two years ago with my 8th graders.  It was 
very successful.  You can see an example and a lesson at:
	http://www.taospaint.com/LessonCollographPrint.html
On a sad note, KC Jazz Legend "Sonny Kenner" passed away
Tuesday night.  He was one of the artists my students used
as a resource.  His daughter Romaine is a teacher a1/25/2001 0:00:00  
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	 for <aI brushed Modge Podge over my sample.  It looked really good and will keep 
the oil pastel from rubbing off.
I also did the oil pastels and baby oil O'Keeffe flowers this year for the 
first time.  I'm not sure I like the results better than just rubbing and 
blending.  I did tell the kids to only use a little oil and I had them rub 
really wet areas with a tissue before putting on a drying rack. So far, I 
haven't had any problems. Janet
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	 Thu, 25 Jan 2001 19:37:36 -Sorry if this is a repeat post but there is an online art history course 
that has just started and I thought I'd share!
http://arthistory.about.com/arts/arthistory/library/weekly/aa012201a.htm
Shar
Fear is the mind killer.
Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me,
I will turn to see fear's path.
Where fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.
-Frank Herbert's,Dune
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Found this handy web tool and thought I'd share!
http://www.megaconverter.com/
Shar
Fear is the mind killer.
Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me,
I will turn to see fear's path.
Where fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.
-Frank Herbert's,Dune
Shar Arndt
teacher and artist
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RecFor cardboard collographs I had the students design stained glass windows, 
draw them onto a piece of matt board, then cut out the sapes (leaving 1/4 
inch line between shapes) and glue onto another piece of mattboard, then 
glue the linework onto another piece.  So they have two plates - the shapes 
and the linework.
>
>I just finished the first two assignments in the
>Printmaking class: Monotypes. The kids placed the glass
>or acrylic sheets over copies of their digital
>portraits. Now it's time 1/25/2001 0:00:00  
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(three?) years ago - great PR for my little district and my program. The
other contest right now is their Color the State contest. Not as big, but it
fits right in with my curriculum - I have them work on their "state drawing"
whenever they are finished with their project (also on sub days). BTW -
Great advice!!
~Michal
> FYI  If you are referring to the Dream Maker contest, I have a couple of
> hints for you.  Other peop1/25/2001 0:00:00  
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In a message dated 1/25/01 2:32:57 AM, jdnag@elknet.net writes:
<< FYI  You might want to try the Winsor & Newton Liquin.  It is on page 59 in
the Sax catalog, product #190 2014 $11.95 for a 8 oz bottle.  It speeds the
drying rate on both oils and acrylics.  I don't know the effect on baby oil
but it might be worth a try.  Hope this helps.  Judy
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I have used liquin, but can I apply it after the fact??  I am really hoping 
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The Winter 2000 issue of Sanford's Lifetime of Color newsletter has a
brief lesson plan about artists' chairs, which has been discussed on the
list in the past.  There is a pattern included that can be enlarged and
cut out of heavy paper.
You can visit their Web site at <http://www.sanfordcorp.com>  to order
the newsletter with the pattern.  You might enjoy their teacher resource
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Does anyone in the Ann Arbor, Michigan area know if there will be future =
art teacher openings--say in one to two years?
My husband is currently interviewing in that area.  We live in NE =
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          by mtiwmhc26.worldnet.attI just finished the first two assignments in the 
Printmaking class: Monotypes. The kids placed the glass 
or acrylic sheets over copies of their digital 
portraits. Now it's time for the next assignmnets which 
will be their first relief print. I have used cardboard 
in the past before using linoleum. Anyone have ideas for 
subjects, topics, motivation , etc? We used emotional 
color for the monotypes and I cannot come up with any 
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Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2001 11:41:14 -0I onced looked at the club photo but forgot the login procedure.  Anyone
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 From the Wall Street Journal, Tuesday, January 23, 2001, p. B1. See
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     Speaking of fans, I did a lesson for Chinese New Year with 1st =
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          (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 Hi Maggie:
    I've seen the chair idea, but could you run us through getting to that
exact activitiy, step by step.....I've searched that website and can't seem
to find the chair directions.  Thank you!!
Barb F.
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> The Winter 2000 issue of Sanford's Lifetime of Color newsletter has a
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I want to thank everyone for their advice and ideas on computer art =
class. Especially Carolyn Roberts, her lessons are just what I needed. =
Also thanks to Dr. Labadie for the advice on focusing on Art.Your =
student examples are really impressive. That is the same focus I have =
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I just looked at the Calder stabiles project on clubphoto
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<< Do any of you have experience with taking a sabatical? I am considering it 
for next school year. I have been teaching for 23 years and am ready for an 
invigorating recharge. I am considering working on an MFA at the local state 
university. Am afraid what will happen while I'm gone. Any advice?
Marcia in IL >>
I took one two years ago and it was great. I got lots done and liked working 
on my own projects.
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>  From the Wall Street Journal, Tuesday, January 23, 2001, p. B1. See
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RDoes anyone know where to get good compasses that LAST??  I have ordered 
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$7 each) and they look real good - come in a nice plastic box and are heavy, 
but they last one or two uses and then the plastic at the top becomes 
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probably agree that it is very important to follow the directions and
guidelines given.  With the volume of entrants, one of the first things
judges look for is if the student has done what was asked.  One good example
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> George W. Bush was thrilled at finally being able to spend his first night 
> in the White House, but 
>     something very strange happened. 
> On the very first night he was awakened by George Washington's ghost. 
> Bush asked the ghost, "President Washington, what is the best thing I could 
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	<fontfamily><param>Arial</param>Someone please correct me if you know
the correct name, but I think there is a well known ceramics program at
a university in Albany or nearby where many well know potters around
the country have studied.  I think it is called the Archie Bray
Foundation or something like that.  You might look in Ceramics Monthly
also for exhibits and things going on in your area.  Or contact the
American Crafts Museum in NYC.
Judie
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Its just a bit of fun ... No humor...unless of course its a tasteless Clinton 
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Susan, we do seem to teach to the test here in Texas. This is not to say that 
testing is bad, but the emphasis is so overwhelmingly wrong that there is no 
other plausible outcome. Holding teachers accountable for student performance 
is unfair. Teachers in Texas must endure rigorous testing to become certified 
and prove their worth each year. Teacher Unions, I understand, are illeg1/26/2001 0:00:00  
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    I was wondering if anyone could share with me the lesson for making clay 
whistles?  I couldn't seem to find it in the archives.  Or if anyone had 
saved the original postings could you let me know the month to help speed my 
search?
Thanks in advance,
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Message-ID: <20010127003234.1Hi Woody and Fellow attendees of the NAEA!
Where is this hotel in relation to the conference? A
double at the Sheraton is $229 a night as per my
reservation. I will need a part time job before I go to
NY (and did you see the price for some of those meals? I
will definitely need another full time job to eat *L*)My
school is helping out with a lot of this so I am not
complaining. I am very excited about this and am looking
forward to the seminars, workshops, and meeting y'all! 
Maybe we could pla1/26/2001 0:00:00  
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Is anyone out there familiar with something called a Burden Basket produced 
by Native Americans? A nun at our school asked me about them and I couldn't 
help her. Apparently she has heard about these and they are used in the 
Native American culture as part of a ceremony to relieve one of life's 
worries and burdens. She would like to incorporate them into a retreat for 
women that1/26/2001 0:00:00  
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	 for <aI must add that I hope that Bush isn't opening Pandora's box with his education plan. I have taught in Virginia, Tennessee, Illinois, and now Texas. Texas is by far the worst. 
I am expected to teach classes of 33 to 34 with little or no supplies.My budget in rural Appalachia 8 years ago is more that what I get now. I wrote to the state to get SOLS to teach in my field. I have had little or no back-up from my administrators.
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          by mtiwmhc24.worldnet.attThanks to all who anwered. I got the first three 
messages as I was doing my lesson plans for the week. 
I'm going to do Woody'ss jazz idea and use some of the 
others with different media. 
Thanks a lot again.You are all too good to be true. I 
hope to see you in New York, Myriam from Puerto Rico.
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clear answer of how many blocks it is from the Hilton? I got 3 different
answers.  You got an awesome price on the flight.  Mine was 350. But it is a
nonstop flight from Madison, Wi and the airport is 40 minutes from the
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In a message dated 1/26/01 4:57:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, rlarson@tls.net 
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> Gee, I thought it was funny-  Betsy
> 
> Moonbeargj@aol.com wrote:
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> > The list is no place for that "joke".  It was really in poor taste.
> 
Then I must've missed the point where referencing getting shot and killed was 
funny-even in "adult humor"-Gabrielle
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Ditto!
> The list is no place for that "joke".  It was really in poor taste.
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	 Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:45:39 -0the marcopolo site also has a good lesson on the blues and black history 
that could be incorporated-
http://marcopolo.worldcom.com/partner/06neh_blues.cfm
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	 Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:39:04 -Now that I have stopped laughing I send a warning!
You see yesterday I received a message from my boyfriend that contained a 
picture of the inbox of this hotmail account.  This was sent to another 
hotmail account.  This was just plain weird.  A-he never even logged into 
his hotmail account and b-that is a different account that is not used in 
conjunction with this account.
After laughing ourselves silly and realizing that this is just part of the 
microsoft problems of this week-
I also se1/26/2001 0:00:00  
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Greetings from Mali, West Africa! Hope all are enjoying the weather 
where they are - I know I am! The temperature right now here is very 
nice - cool in the morning and evening, and yesterday, the sun at 
noon was not even that intense! For those who are envious though, I 
hear that the upcoming months - March through May are unbearably hot. 
We'll see how I do with that.
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I ran a search and came up with these (I didn't spend a great deal of =
time, so there's sure to be more out there). What a neat concept! I =
might have to make one for myself tomorrow!
~Michal
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Are you out there in cyber land? I just wanted to make sure you received
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nothing about convention. Should I worry, getting anxious. I got my 
confirmation on my workshop but don't know when it is, can anyone tell me?
Great deal on your flight Woody, I got mine for $156  and thought that was a 
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Will it ever be in my future Or the school budget?? Only God knows.
Excuse me while I have my pity-party with Artystyc3 as she would probably be 
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they rest. Thinking of laying on batting. Any ideas? Also students and I
were brainstorming an easy way to label with names during drying and
firing.
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    George W. Bush was thrilled at finally being able to spend his first =
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	 Fri, 26Connie,
	I was told it was six blocks from the Hilton.  Walking distance
or we can share a cab.  See you in New York.
				Woody in KC
Connie Ferguson wrote:
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> Woody, My sister and I  are also staying at the Best Western.  Did you get a
> clear answer of how many blocks it is from the Hilton? I got 3 different
> answers.  You got an awesome price on the flight.  Mine was 350. But it is a
> nonstop flight from Madison, Wi and the airport is 40 minutes from the
> house.     Connie
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	 Fri, 26I will have my digital camera to take group shots.
I'll be sure to post them on the web.
				Woody in KC
MarshArt@aol.com wrote:
> Boo-hoo. Waaaaaaah! Sniff-sniff. Sob. I AM NOT GOING TO NAEA again this year.
> Will it ever be in my future Or the school budget?? Only God knows.
> Excuse me while I have my pity-party with Artystyc3 as she would probably be
> my roommate and her school can't send her anyway. Well, at least it is
> beautifully warm here in FL. Small consolation.
> Have fun, guys, 1/26/2001 0:00:00  
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	 Fri, 26Vivian,	
	The Best Western President is six blocks from the Hilton.
They only have singles available. A Holiday Inn of similar distance
was mentioned if you need a double.  I doubted that I could find
a room mate that Frani would approve of so I only need a single.
The rates vary each night but it averages out at $168 per
night, that includes all taxes. Quite a $$$ load for a teacher but
I got my total funding approved today.  I got my reservation 
through the "Room with a View" company that NAEA
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people wear to the Binny  & Smith reception?
Connie Ferguson
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	 Fri, 26I attended it in Kansas City and in San Francisco.
The dress varies a good deal from simple to formal.
I would suggest something a bit on the semi-formal
side but comfortable.  Then again you know these art
folks they will wear some really funky stuff.  But that's
part of the fun. Me, I've got a leather jacket from Taos
and a spider Bolo tie, no boots though my dogs are killing
me.
			Woody in KC
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fight him (as in the case of Ashcroft or Norton) they are viewed negatively 
as well as if they worked with Bush ---they don't stand a chance in 2002.  
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permission and or advice on whatever you put on their art work.
>>> whest177@wheatstate.com 01/25 8:17 PM >>>
They sell a resin at most auto supply stores that should work. They use it
on boats as well as cars so it should work well. I used it for "monster
drool" when one of my students made a screamer years ago.
~Michal
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Why not introduce them to an artist who worked with abstracts and then use 
corrugated cardboard as a printing plate?  This works well for hard-edged 
designs as the design can be drawn on it and then sections of the top layer 
cut away to reveal the corrugation in the middle.  Give them a brush-up 
lesson on good design principles first.  Results are varied and interesting 
and the kids love it.
Hope this helps.
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Deb,
I gave up on conventional compasses years ago.
I use "circle master" and "safe-t" compasses.  The former works well with 
any type of writing instrument, even x-acto knives, if you want.  It is 
aluminum and rigid so it lasts.  The latter is great for any age student and 
the range of circles it makes is amazing.  It is plastic with no sharp 
points.
I know you can find both in any good catalog.
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just had another idea- perhaps the work of Stuart Davis would be good ref for 
collagraph prints......they were"jazzy" looking and influenced works too- 
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to check his track record in Texas?
> I know that somewhere along the line he will bite himself in his foot and
G-d help us.  Thanks for letting me vent.
He didn't.  The Republican supreme court gave him the election when they
stopped the recounts in Fl.
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This looks interesting although the first lesson is abit lightweight - it is 
a good read
for a morning when I am iced in from school - whole town frozen!!!   Thanks  
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>The list is no place for that "joke".  It was really in poor taste.
Sorry I disagree and thank the person that shared it!
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I'v ehad good success with Expressionism- particularly German Expressionism- 
and the kids illustrating a feeli g or emotion of significance to them, also 
prints of the / city.
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          by mtiwmhc27.worldnet.attMy husband, who sculpts in wood says that at a good 
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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:34:48 -0I got this message from my principal after I forwarded the other letter to
him.
Jackie
This person obviously has a problem if she doesn't think Bush helped
education in Texas.  Not only is she mistaken about this, but standard have
actually increased in the past few years.  And I'm proud of the work our
teachers have done to ensure that, although standards are tougher, that BHS
kids are improving.  That is directly related to the hard work and
dedication of our teachers.
This lady needs a rea1/26/2001 0:00:00  
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Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:32:41 -0This came from my principal here in Texas.  Wanted to share.
Jackie
This person obviously has a problem if she doesn't think Bush helped
education in Texas.  Not only is she mistaken about this, but standard have
actually increased in the past few years.  And I'm proud of the work our
teachers have done to ensure that, although standards are tougher, that BHS
kids are improving.  That is directly related to the hard work and
dedication of our teachers.
This lady needs a reality check.
Robby1/26/2001 0:00:00  
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	Fri, 26 JaSusan you are correct about the teachers having to teach to the TAAS test.  It also seems that the standards for passing that test get lower and lower each year.  You are also correct about Texas students scoring lower on the SAT and ACT.  I am sad to say that only about 16% of our students who go off to college actually graduate.  
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Education Bill is posted to the Congressional site, I will post a link here.
I suggest you read through the actual bill highlighting both the good and
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friends, family and colleagues to write also it would be great.
What would happen if you had a democracy and no one showed up?
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  Kimberly Herbert <kimberly@wcc.net> wrote: 
This is a variation on a old hoax not a virus for more information see
http://service1.symantec.com/sarc/sarc.nsf/html/buddylst.zip.html . Before
sending this type of information, please check with your virus check's site
to make sure it is legitimate. It just takes up bandwidth, and sometimes
causes a panic.
Remember
Update and upgrade your virus check regularly
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 by LIMA4.NOACSC.ORG (PMDF V5.2-32There are some very good printmaking lessons on the Web:
http://www2.wcoil.com/~mdecker/prints.htm
Click on "Lessons"--I have links to Woody's fantastic lessons.
I have two high school adaptable ones online:
http://elms.elida.k12.oh.us/~jdecker/LESSONS/8NWPRINT.HTM
http://elms.elida.k12.oh.us/~jdecker/LESSONS/8PRINT.HTM
(also on my WCOIL site)--linked from:
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Thanks for the reassurance. I am new to the pc world, practically computer illerate and I am insecure about my lack of knowledge. When I hear of peoples computer's crashing, I wonder how I'll ever manage. I've heard experience is a hard teacher, it gives the test first and the lesson afterwards. Thanks again 
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http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e2095.html
It didn't come through as a hyperlink in the digest.
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To all the lucky people attending the NY conference:   upon your return from the
Big Apple, how about posting one great art idea you acquired while attending the
seminars.  It might make the rest of us left behind a little happier ;)
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Hi Sky,
Thanks for answering.  I'll forward your post to my friend Margie Sisitsky.
She teaches, here in town. I had all four of her kids in my school. She's a 
potter, too and living around the corner from me.  
I don't know if she has a computer at home. She'll pick this up, for sure, 
Monday morning at school. She's in a new school with fancy new computers in 
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Might be useful in the classroom:
<< Every year the Busch beer company offers a f
ree African American calendar
 'Kings and Queens'. Below is the toll free number. One calendar per
 household. They're great collector items.
 
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	 for <artsIsn't the coating that is used for boats pretty durable?  Someone may have 
already suggested this...
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Surely, the whole idea of educational reform would not replace one type of 
bad practice with another, Bunki. Indeed, my whole premise is grounded in the 
notion that change is needed and not just another patch. Change would 
eliminate the CA model you describe (and like foolishness in other states), 
elevate the teacher's standing and improve education for the student. The two 
year1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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	 Sat, 27Sky,
	I signed up for two luncheons; Middle Level & INSEA.
One on Thur & one on Sat
I did not request anything on Wed because I'm doing
a presentation at 2:00.
I didn't sign up for any regional meal functions because 
there didn't seem to be one that would include Kansas
unless we are lumped into the "West".
I signed up for workshops at four different times;
Thur 312 Ancient Pottery Shards
	& 401 Multi Media Portfolio
Fri  326 Clay Animation
	& 406 Dreamweaver Web Design
I'm arriving on Tuesday1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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	 for <artsThe Southgate Tower Hotel / 31st / 7th  ave ( across from Madison Square 
Guarden/ a cab ride from the Hilton)
212-563-1800
Mention the Art Conference- My husband manages the hotel.
Studio -$189 (2 occ.)
1 bedroom suite- $219 (2-4 occ.)
I hope I can get there.................
I'm going to register this weekend.
Robin
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Teacher Unions are not illegal it Texas. That would be unconstitutional
(Freedom of assembly 1st amendment extended to the states by the 14th
amendment equal protection clause). They are virtually powerless in regard
to salaries, work conditions, and other "contract" type issues, because
these issues are subject to Texas law that 1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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	I guess I started this with my posting about his educational policy. I was
hoping that people would take the information and start advocating within
their communities and to their state and national representatives and
senators. Education stops at the end of 2nd grade here in Texas and 3rd -
12th are test prep (at least in the local districts I'm familiar with). I
find this very frustrating because growing up my schoolmates and I always
tested high, and the test wasn't mentioned to us until t1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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	 for <artI haven't heard anyhting from corporate other than trying to address the 
issue of transportation.I thought it was going to be on Liberty island, but I 
am in the small circle. I will ask corporate and see what they say!
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that get "funky" but for the most part it is more casual than dress up.
Binney usually has a theme to go with the city chosen.  My guess is that NYC
will offer them some good choices.  The Binney people will dress up in
whatever theme they've chosen for this year.  I hope this helps.  Judy
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FYI  Bob Tarrell of Wisconsin Art Ed Assoc. forwarded it from  Education =
Week.  I believe Mariel Wozniak from Madison, WI sent it to him.  Judy
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I would like to share my room at the Hilton Towers.  I'll be there on
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of us.  There is one kingsize bed in the room.
I teach art in Voorhees NJ grades 1 to five.  I've been teaching for
about 25 years.  The art teacher who was coming with me decided to just
come for the day.  I'll be happy to supply more info if your friend is
interested.
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If you want to stay at one of the Holiday Inns, 
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How about for labeling purposes, before setting marbles on the foam to dry, 
if students made a paper ring and stapled it shut. Label the paper ring with 
their names and place marbles inside the ring to dry. Now, for firing, . 
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Kimberly... thank you for the clarification regarding the status of unions in 
Texas. Illegal was the word used as the status of teacher's unions was 
described by, lord help us, an attorney. However, your description explains 
very clearly why unions hold very little sway down here. Peter
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Everyone seems to be so worried about Bush and what he plans to do but if the 
past 8 years are any indication of what is ahead, why put the state of 
education solely on his shoulders? We could go on and on pointing the finger 
at each other, however, the children are still there waiting and what we need 
to do, is teach to the best of our abilities and show the general population 
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Here are some links.
http://www.au.org/pr121100.htm - Americans United for Separation of Church
and State
http://pacer.ca6.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/getopn.pl?OPINION=00a0411p.06 -
Opinion from the Court
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CNN site
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At 02:49 PM 01/27/2001 -0500, you wrote:
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>>Has anyone made clay marbles. I'm planning to next week and am wondering
>>how to let them dry without developing flat spots on the marbles where
>>they rest. Thinking of laying on batting. Any ideas? Also students and I
>>were brainstorming an easy way to1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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> needs and the cost is not changed>. have more questions than answers,
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Ill do some research tonight, but I thought the Supreme Court already ruled
that vouchers that pay for religious schools were unconstitutional.
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keep in mind that a union is as strong as its membership , in an open-shop state 
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about him and there were some good examples of his work.
Also, in the ARTnews (magazine), April 1998, he was featured on on the
cover.  Inside was an article about "The Making of His Retrospective" at
the Museum of Modern Art.  There were some good photos of him, but only
black and white photos of some of his works.
BTW my school library gives me the old issues of ARTnews . . . perhaps your
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If I am not mistaken, the base sheet of paper is painted with with pulp
beaten very fine (this can take several hours using a Hollander beater) and
pigmented.  A formation aid called PEO is added to the pulp, it works as
vehicle to spread the colored pulp kind of like oil in oil paints.  I
believe you can purchase PEO through Twinrocker
http://dcwi.com/~twinrock/supplies.htm or through Lee McDonald (sorry I
don't have a web address, but you should be able to find him through a
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I strongly disagree with the above statement.  I think that laughing at
a problem, real or perceived, can often help put things in perspective,
and as art teachers, don't we want to do that?  ;)
Charlotte, also a survivor of "Give Peace a Chance" dazes...
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Thank you, Woody. I was thinking the same thing. Let's move on.
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like to do something based on his work for our summer program. The book
discusses the creative process, how he found subjects, and his struggle with
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	 Sat, 27Lesson plans on:
http://www2.wcoil.com/~mdecker/ceramics.htm
Click Lessons--clay whistles at bottom. Crizmac has a video and other
resources available--even some clay whistles you can buy from other
cultures.
Crizmac
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Show them some Edvard Munch prints and Japanese woodblocks also try 
showignthem some stuff by Sue Coe she has some awesome prints maybe try to 
give them some leeway as to subject matter  but here are some ideas, 
self-potrait,  social/political commentary issue prints.  Munch did some 
really awesome woodcuts where each color was different piece and he fit them 
together like a puzzle ...Prints with text can be interestign too.  Remind 
them though that the have to draw on the block in the reverse s1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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	 Sat, 27Ha...got you! I thought this subject might tweak your curiosity.
"Don't insult the crocodile until you cross the water." (Be careful
about criticizing others.) I happen to have a fondness for African art--and
African proverbs (so thank you Melissa--Yes, I replied personally to her
too)
I have crossed the waters so I feel I can now make my point to the entire
list (maybe the Mata Hari will, too?). When a member posts something that
you feel is in poor taste--or not up to your standards for this profes1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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> 
> Rosie,
>         I see that the Binney and Smith affair is at the Hilton.
> There was no place to sign up for tickets.  Does everyone get to go ?
> Are they holding it at the Hilton so we won't trash a major museum ?
> Does Rosie know ?  Does anyone know ?
The only reason we had to pay in the past was for the shuttle service;
the reception was free.  And yes, it would be my guess we've gotten such
a bad reputation that it must be held at the hotel now.  I've been
mortifi1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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In a message dated 1/26/01 5:33:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
PHimmelber@aol.com writes:
> Teacher Unions, I understand, are illegal in 
> 
Peter, thanks for the info.  You mean, there are no teachers unions in 
Texas?!?  But there's an American Federation of Teachers, and Texas is not 
part of it? In my naivety I thought that all states have teachers unions.  
Who made them 1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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> Has anyone else not gotten their registration packet. Got NAEA news but
> nothing about convention. Should I worry, getting anxious. I got my
> confirmation on my workshop but don't know when it is, can anyone tell me?
Ros,
My advice is to download and print the reg form off the Internet and
register NOW.  The ticketed workshops fill up fast.  The schedule for
these is on the Web site.  If you're not going to register for them (the
cost really adds up), you don't ha1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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	 Sat, 27What a fantastic idea.  Some of our staff are going to need a
really big basket.  But knowing them they would carry it with
them wherever they go. I do believe they relish their burdens.
This is an idea that I will save and use. Right now I can picture
a simple clay slab wrapped around a cone of newspaper. Done 
in terra-cotta clay with holes for hanging and for attaching raffia,
beads and feathers. A great introduction to clay.
				Thanks, Woody in KC
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                I'm from Kansas,  wh1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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> A question for those that have been to a National Convention.  What do
> people wear to the Binny  & Smith reception?
> 
It really varies, but most women wear something fairly dressy.  In order
to pack lightly, I take a few comfortable clothes for the daily grind
and try to dress it up with accessories that one night.
Maggie
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NEED NAEA BROCHURE FAST.. HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED TO GET SOME TRAVELING =
MONIES BUT THEY WANT A SCHEDULE AND BROCHURE SO THEY KNOW THAT I AM NOT =
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>I will have my digital camera to take group shots.
>I'll be sure to post them on the web.
Yay, thanks Woody, it sure does sound like you guys are all going to have
some fun and I can't go either!  
It will be nice to at least get to vicariously share by seeing some pictures.
Mishy
PS Don't forget your camera when you go to the party in Susan's room!
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Americans have a long history of lampooning all their presidents.
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>Has anyone made clay marbles. I'm planning to next week and am wondering
>how to let them dry without developing flat spots on the marbles where
>they rest. Thinking of laying on batting. Any ideas?
Layered or bunched cloth of some kind should work.  
 Also students and I
>were brainstorming an easy way to label with names during drying and
>firing.
Assuming these will not be glazed you could fire them in small pinchbowls
if students made multiple marb1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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	 Sat, 27I will be honest and say that I have simply deleted much of the
posts about Bush, even the jokes.  Come on now, first this list is
about education and the arts.  When it fits, post it, start a thread.
But ease up and give the man a chance.  From before day one they
were bashing Bill and company and family, I for one think it needs 
to end somewhere.  I am a strong Clinton supporter and a very
"Liberal Democrat".  I was even a Miami delegate for George 
Mc Govern. (Who ???) Boy you are young !!! But, 1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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In a message dated 1/26/01 1:12:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
dmortl@hotmail.com writes:
> For cardboard collographs I had the students design stained glass windows, 
> draw them onto a piece of matt board, then cut out the sapes (leaving 1/4 
> inch line between shapes) and glue onto another piece of mattboard, then 
> glue the linework onto another piece.  So they have two pla1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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	 Sat, 27Rosie,
	I see that the Binney and Smith affair is at the Hilton.
There was no place to sign up for tickets.  Does everyone get to go ?
Are they holding it at the Hilton so we won't trash a major museum ?
Does Rosie know ?  Does anyone know ?
				Woody in KC
Rosikins@aol.com wrote:
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> Has anyone else not gotten their registration packet. Got NAEA news but
> nothing about convention. Should I worry, getting anxious. I got my
> confirmation on my workshop but don't know when it is, can anyone tel1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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	 Sat, 27Yes Rosie,
	I was worried when I got my NAEA news and no
registration stuff.  So I went to the NAEA web site and
downloaded the whole thing.
	http://www.naea-reston.org
The registration form printed out on two pages and the
information on workshops and such took 44 pages.
Go there and do it, that might be the only way ???????
				See you in New York, Woody in KC
Rosikins@aol.com wrote:
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> Has anyone else not gotten their registration packet. Got NAEA news but
> nothing about convention. Shou1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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	by mclean.mail.mindIt's very early here... I am not sure how silly this will sound...
Write  the (7) Continents of the world on slips of paper... if there are
20 kids have duplicates...
Have them pull a slip and create a collagraph that is either
representational of something from that continent. or
non objective...
My students like to complain a lot so we use random chance when ever
possible... The Dada method of making decisions.
Randy( female) in Maine
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	 Don't know about your program but we have an excellent graduate program 
through the University of Memphis.  Three general courses can be 
pursued...One in general art history, one is Egyptian art history (we have an 
Egyptian museum here) and one through 
art education.  If you're not sure about where you are looking, check out U 
of M art department on line tigerweb.com or University of Memphis home page.  
They have excellent teachers, have a visiting professor each year in a 
specific subject art1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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          (InterMail Dear Listers,
 I just downloaded and printed all 44 pages of convention info.  Here are my
questions:  Should I sign up for the region breakfast on Fri. ($27.00) or the
region luncheon on Sat.?  What do they mean by region?  I'm from NJ and teach art
1 - 5.  When does the breakfast start?  I'm arriving in NY on Friday AM.  I need
to know how early to arrive?  Also are any of you signing up for the paid
workshops?  If so, which ones?
Thanks,
Sky
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<< NEA Foundation for the Improvement of Education Offers
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   Created by the National Education Association in 1969, the
   NEA Foundation for the Improvement of Education works to
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Subject: Re(Have you even stopped drawing and painting for a year and then tried to
start up again? I can relate to how kids feel, but ultimately I see a
transformation with many 7th and 8th graders who finally are able to
retain what they learned. But I also feel we have to understand that not
all these kids are going to be drawing into HS and later in life. What
might be the percentage? 20% or less, I'd guess. So relax, you have no
control over their growth. We do what we do the best we can and then let
it go.1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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Something that occurs to me too, is that if we vouche1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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In a message dated 1/26/01 4:59:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
Moonbeargj@aol.com writes:
> The list is no place for that "joke".  It was really in poor taste.
> 
> How's this for poor taste?
The moral burden does not weigh heavily on our new president. Governor Bush 
asked the television audience during his second debate, "The three men who 
murdered James Byrd, guess what's 1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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Susan, et al, Texas is a right to work state and I believe that that denies 
state employees the lever of collective bargaining, as such. Yes, there are 
teacher's organizations, but these are without the ability to strike. Bush is 
not responsible for this, it has been policy long before his tenure as 
governor. Reading response to this tread has been an eyeopener... but I agree 
wi1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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In a message dated 1/26/01 3:28:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
jab1997@bryanisd.org writes:
> I got this message from my principal after I forwarded the other letter to
> him.
> Jackie
> 
> 
> This person obviously has a problem if she doesn't think Bush helped
> education in Texas.  Not only is she mistaken about this, but standard have
> actually increased in the past few ye1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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          (InterMail vM.4.01.Woody, the tickets in the past were for transportation from the hotel 
to the reception site. This year with the reception being in the same
place there will be no need for tickets.  Binney & Smith hosts this
affair and everyone is welcome who has a convention badge.
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>From: Woody Duncan <wduncan@kc.rr.com>
>To: "ArtsEdNet Talk" <artsednet@lists.getty.edu>
>Subject: Re: New York / Rosie should know
>Date: Sat, Jan 27, 2001, 8:55 AM
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> Rosie,
>  I see that the Binney and Smith affai1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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I stay at Hotel Ermitage on Rue Lamarck behind Sacre Coeur. Maggie 
Canipel and her daughter run the hotel which is quiet, charming, and 
the room includes continental breakfast. Each room has a private 
bath. My rates American the last three times I stayed were about $80 
per night. Last time I was in Paris I wanted to be more central, so I 
stayed at Hotel Herse d'Or. Run by two lovely older men, I think from 
Algeria, but not sure. They called me "Mrs. Jan1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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	 Sat, 27I am not responding to "your" Bush posting.
Since Wednesday, I have received Bush postings or 
replies to same from 19 people on this list.  Yours
was but a drop in the bucket.  I too am alarmed
at the possible changes but we need to work to guide
these changes in productive ways.  Contact a Democrat
in the House and Senate and find out how we can help steer
these changes in a more sensible direction.  If we only
complain, we just become the rabble on the outside and
give the new administration a t1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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	 for <artseIf we give these policies a chance....we may all be out of a job at the end 
of 4 years.  Are you willing to take that chance?  Alarmist?  Perhaps..but 
unfortunately...people realized  too late what it meant to stand by and see 
what happens.  I do keep my comments here related to education!  I have many 
other, non-educational, concerns with this administration...but this is not 
the place to voice them.   Am I Bush Bashing?  NO...I am responding to his 
statements about policies he intends to suppo1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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          (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 I have recently had the honor to speak with Robert McCall.  He is an
incredible 81-year-old bundle of energy.  For those of you attending the
NAEA conference, I strongly recommend that you attend the Sunday morning
general session.  You won't be disappointed.  Not only is McCall a
visionary, he is wonderfully articulate on the subjects of science,
flight, and the visual arts.  His interest in life itself is contagious.
A recent project that Bob completed is on the CNN site.  It is a large
stain gla1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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Re: hotel rooms.  
A fellow art teacher in Framingham would like to come to the conference, but 
doesn't have a room.  
Is anyone looking for a person to share a room.
Please let me know. 
Thanks,
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          (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 Chuck Close's self-portrait is included in the Crystal Production Take-5
study print series "Self-Portraits."
Pam
Susan Bennett wrote:
> 
> I have had toe same trouble finding Chuck Close prints.  I even called the
> museuem where he had had shows, thinking perhaps they had done a print. One
> may have done prints but did not any longer have them.  This is probably a
> good markenting project for any of you caytalog people out ther to pick up
> on. Susan in OHio
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I believe that in Syracuse, New York there is an exhibition on until
February 11 called  "Ceramic National 2000", at the Everson Museum of Art.
-Numo
Numo Jaeger
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Oakland CA 
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Subject: [aenj] TEACHING UNIT ON NAEA KEYNOTE SPEAKER
Date: Fri, Jan 26, 2001, 5:40 PM
NAEA CONVENTION FACT SHEET
NATIONAL ART EDUCATION ASSOCIATION
Office of the Executive Director
Phone 703-860-8000   Fax 703-860-2960
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McCall Teaching unit on Space Art throug1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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	by mailcore4.oh.voyI have had toe same trouble finding Chuck Close prints.  I even called the
museuem where he had had shows, thinking perhaps they had done a print. One
may have done prints but did not any longer have them.  This is probably a
good markenting project for any of you caytalog people out ther to pick up
on. Susan in OHio
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Date: Monday, January 22, 2001 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: Chuck Close

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Just got this update! Very excited about Skoglund!
Sharon from NJ
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New New York City General Session Speaker A1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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Date: Saturday, January 20, 2001 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: Conference Hotel Rooms
>Hi everyone......just speaking to my husband about the conference...he
>manages the Southgate Towers Hotel in NYC across from Madison Square
Garden.
>If anyone needs rooms / suites, he will be setting up a special rate.  Just
>mention the A1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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	 Sat, 27Boy...do I have egg on my face or what?  (Mark, this one is for you.)
> If you feel this post was unnecessary, please send a personal reply to:
> mailto:jdecker@who.rr.com
I wouldn't do that if I were you.....
That's it....if you really DON'T want people to disagree...put in the wrong
e-mail address......
Try this one if you think I am a total idiot:
mailto:Jdecker@woh.rr.com
LOL...Jdecker@who? just WHO does she think she is anyway?
I even tested it out this time first....it will come to me, 1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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Subject: Re: New York / Binney&Smith
Date: Sat, Jan 27, 2001, 10:53 AM
 Woody, the tickets in the past were for transportation from the hotel
 to the reception site. This year with the reception being in the same
 place there will be no need for tickets.  Binney & Smith hosts this
 affair and everyone who has a convention badge is welcome.
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>>From: Woody Duncan <wduncan@kc.rr.c1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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	 for <artsedooppsss....sorry sent before I really got going!
If you really believe that educational politics do not have a place here, 
then you live in a very isolated place.  The first programs to be cut, when 
testing/teaching accountablity become the primary reason for children being 
educated (I believe many of us are in school districts that teach to the 
test), are the arts.  How many of us have to tolerate being treated like 
step-children because we teach art instead of teach in a regular ed class 
ro1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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I just looked at the Calder stabiles project on clubphoto1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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	 Sat, 27Yes, there is intelligent life in the Decker household this morning....
I updated my African Proverbs page to include those sent to the list by
Melissa:
http://www2.wcoil.com/~mdecker/af-prov.htm
http://www2.wcoil.com/~mdecker/af-prov2.htm
I use these in my Character Development Lesson and with my African Art
Lesson:
http://www2.wcoil.com/~mdecker/afr-less.htm
Melissa will be sharing more proverbs from Mali as she comes across them.
For those looking for history of color theory--I have added 1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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Ann, Judy and the List.
This is why I have suggested in past posts that we include email
address and signatures with each post.  Otherwise the digest folks
have no information and have to answer to the list.
Of course I prefer that people post to the list because I like to hear
the other side presented.  When I was young my mom said of me, "She
would argue with a sign post"  My father taught me to take the
opposite side just for exercise.
Sharon from NJ
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	 Sat, 27Please resend your proverbs, for some reason my computer
is putting type on top of type, maybe others got that mess also,
		Woody in KC
Melissa Enderle wrote:
> Anyway, I came across some West African proverbs.
> 
-- 
                I'm from Kansas,  where the voters threw out 
     the monkeys and evolution may soon be taught in schools
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Nnaell@aol.com wrote:
> So...to say Bush's politics
> re: education do not matter and are not relevant here, you really need to
> think seriously about that statement.
I never said that, I said Bush Bashing and all Bashing has to end, and that
the jokes do not help.  Many people feel it's their turn now to get back at
the republicans for the nastiness of the last eight years.  I say stop, enough.
I also said, "When it fits, post it, start a thread." If someone has a
real concern and facts of c1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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	by mailcore4.oh.voyFor mural painting I was introduced to a group of people who run a gallery
for kids here in Dayton Ohio. She uses "Luann" board. It is like paneling
without a ny paneling if that makes sense. I just started  using it. I had
the student prime it with latex paint.  We have a county recylcling center
that gives paints away that they receive from businesses to nonprofit
groups. The board is very light and did not warp at all. It is easy for me
to move in the  4' x 8' size. Lowes trimemed it for me to fit 1/27/2001 0:00:00  
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> As for subject matter, Myriam - I'm with you.  So far, I'm still =
waiting for
> the idea genie to pop by. =20
I use color theory as my jumping off point for monotype with 7th =
graders. Subject matter is up to them, after we view Degas' and others =
monotypes (I go to the library, and take out two big books I g1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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Thanks for the chair URL.  It should read:  
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Thanks,
Alix
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> Someone was asking for chair patterns...here's one I found through another 
> site someone had told me about on this list....think I will try it too...
> www.1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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From: "Anna N." <anna@istatic.net>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           I agree! I agree!  When the character is built, children can learn more, 
think more freely, take risks with new ideas, help each other on their 
quest for knowledge and feel good about achieving.  Without it, learning in 
any form is hindered greatly.  I have been trying to get some community 
character building to happen, but it's really difficult to motivate the 
school, which is hung up on not "adding any more".  I don't want to add.  I 
want to integrate.  Make character part of the learning expe1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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> Some of us are not fortunate to go to the National Convention.  I am know
> that those of you who do will come away with a lot of wonderful
> information.  I would be willing to pay anyone for any copies of
> information they may come across.  I was one of four/30 teachers in1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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	Sun, 2Put thin boards on the back in a strip going west to east. The kids could 
hold onto that as they walk across the stage.   Gail
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|<P><FONT color=#660066>Thanks, Christine
Dear Christine,
        I tried these once and was very disappointed.  Have been using
Amaco Velvet Underglazes with clear gloss glaze for several years. You can
buy them (underglazes) individually or by sets of assorted colors. I order
a gallon jug of the clear gloss glaze.  Only fifth graders and occasionaly
third graders get to use the glazes.  All other bisque clay projects are
painted1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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had been wondering what to do for my 3-d clay project 
and the puppets sound like a good thing. Maybe we can 
donate the finished pieces to the local Child 
Developement Center.Thanks, Myriam
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Hi Susan,
I'd like to meet for breakfast on Sat. morning as I won't be arriving
until Friday.
BTW  Why did you use gesso on the scratchart paper and not white tempera
paint?  I would have to buy gesso but we have plenty of white tempera.
Thanks,
Sky
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I agree with you Peter and echo the question.
Another question I have is how do we empower children to receive a good =
education when plagued by an insufficient home life?  Hard questions but =
there are problems on all sides of the fence. To say schools have always =
been responsible with taxpayers monies would not1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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In a message dated 1/28/01 5:36:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
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> Oh, how I agree with you!! 
> They are against abortion, but NOT capital punishment.  Go figure. 
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Not just that, they are for the death penalty for 11 year olds and against 
aid to women and children in need.
Maybe progressive Americans {the majority} will wake up now the1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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	 Sun, 28The Binney and Smith reception begins at 7:00 PM.
There will be thousands there (literally) and it will be near 
impossible to gather together people who do not recognize 
each other.  I suggest somewhere in the Hilton at perhaps
6:00 PM.  How does that sound ? I'm sure open to any
suggestion.
				Woody in KC
Connie Ferguson wrote:
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> Thanks for all the knowledge  on the B & S reception.  I know it is too
> early to start packing :) but I like to plan.  Looking forward to this will
> make thi1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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	 Sun, 28I do not have plans for Wednesday night so count me in.
I think an early meeting would be a great idea.  I can't
wait to meet my ArtsEdNet friends who can make it to 
New York. Another (additional) meeting for later arrivals 
is also a good idea. Does anyone have plans for badges
or pins so we can easily spot other ArtsEdNetters ?
				Woody in KC
ARTNSOUL12@aol.com wrote:
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> To all my Artsednet friends who will be attending the conference: I
> would
> like to coordinate meeting for dinner.  L1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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|if any of you are/have worked in similar vein.
        Yes.  Thank you for some more terrific ideas.  There is a new
architecture theme show at the Wexner Center here in Columbus that may be
of interest to you. It is called "Suite Fantastique." Visit the website at
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	by kodos.svc.tds.net (8.9.3/8.9Thanks for all the knowledge  on the B & S reception.  I know it is too
early to start packing :) but I like to plan.  Looking forward to this will
make this long and cold Wisconsin winter a little more tolerateable, I hope.
Also, Since it seems we all want to go to the reception, why dont we just
make that our meeting place.  Then, as we meet,"groups" may want to plan
other side trips together,plans can be formed that night while  there is
still time during the week.  We will never find a time that1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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	 Sun, 28This is the right forum for this request....A very dear friend of mine (a
very talented artist whom I grew up with) asked me to pray for the son of
close friends of theirs (the father a highly respected former high school
art teacher from her husband's home town---whose students always received
top honors in national and regional shows--a man who gave me much support as
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man --Bruce--was injured in a very serious accident (I wil1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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This sounds great!  Do you think I would benefit from your workshop?  I teach
grades one through five.
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	 Sun, 28 Jan 2001 14:54:34 Hi all, and especially Myriam, who's in the same "what'm I doing!"
printmaking boat as me,
I spent all day today playing with various water-based media for making
monotypes without a press.  As I'm sure most of you know, it's rather
trickier to make intense prints without one.  But FYI - Crayola's Portfolio
water-based oil pastels work BEAUTIFULLY for monotypes.  especially with
extremely damp paper.  I experimented with createx inks, Caran D'ache
Neocolor II, and the oil pastels - and found that t1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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<excerpt>Underglazes that come in a pan form are a convenient way to have
an assortment of colors in a small container. Most of these underglazes
contain frits. Some frits are inappropriate for young children to handle.
Underglazes also require that you apply a clear or transparent glaze on
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          (InterMail vTo those of you who asked for the ISBN number of the book "Signs of
Life" by Angeles Arrien, here it is:
ISBN 0-916955-10-9
The price is $16.95
Hope those of you going to NAEA have a great time. I can't manage it
this year.
And thanks to all who provided web addresses for the new Calif State
Dept. of Education website www.TeachingArts.org.
The reviewers are going over our submissions now and the site should be
open in March or around that time. I will keep everyone posted. we will
be giving wo1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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	 Sun, 28Really folks--I DO NOT work all the time at my computer...I read the comics
today--see?.
This is a very useful site on Japanese culture--just for kids:
http://www.jinjapan.org/kidsweb/
I just came to this site from the suggestion in the comics of our local
newspaper. I am adding the link to my "Just for Kids" page and to my
"Oriental Art" resources:
http://www2.wcoil.com/~mdecker/for-kids.htm
http://www2.wcoil.com/~mdecker/oriental.htm
and
http://elms.elida.k12.oh.us/~jdecker/oriental.htm
My 1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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The difference in a right to work state they can't make you pay the
"bargaining fee".
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> Who else from ArtsEdNet is presenting at NAEA?
> 
I'm presenting a hands-on workshop called "Beginning Weaving on a
Cardboard Loom" on Thursday night from 8:30-10:20.
Maggie
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>     To all my Artsednet friends who will be attending the conference: I would 
> like to coordinate meeting for dinner.  Last year in LA, on the first night 
> of the conference, we planned a meeting in the lobby of the Convention Hotel 
> at 7:30.   About 10 of us showed up and had dinner at a casual pub in the 
> hotel.  Worked out well, so I'd like to try it again this year.  How many of 
> you are interested in meeting for dinner on Wed. night?  
Susan,
That's1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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>I just finished reading David Hockney's book about his paper pools.
Kimberly, Would you p1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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          (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 Who else from ArtsEdNet is presenting at NAEA?  
Nancy Walkup and I are scheduled to make two presentations, both free. 
One is based upon our new book, "Bridging the Curriculum through Art"
and we will have a few handouts and activities from that.  The other is
from our recent NAEA Advisory on "How to Give a Presentation."  We are
also including tips and writing guidelines for how to publish articles.
Be sure you look for a presentation by a friend of mine named Jan Dodd. 
Jan will be presenting1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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> Bunki,
> This sounds great!  Do you think I would benefit from your workshop?  I teach
> grades one through five.> Sky
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If you're creative enough...and I think you are...you can take ANY idea and
make it fit your age group. It's up to you. It won't cost you any $$$ to
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	 Sun, 28The person to ask about possible numbers is Eileen
	mailto:PrimaryE@aol.com
I understand that she is keeping track of which
ArtsEdNet folks are going.
				Woody in KC
> Booth is Square 1 Art.  I'll be happy to make something pretty
> simple........like a sticker/label...How many do you think?
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The Binney and Smith Reception begins at 7:00.  Should we all meet at the 
hotel lobby bar at the Hilton at 5:30 before the reception?  How does this 
sound to everyone?  Because there are literally thousands of people at the 
Binny and Smith reception, it makes it virtually impossible to plan meeting 
there.  I think we should include ARTSEDNET and our internet names on our 
nametag1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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Woody,
Booth is Square 1 Art.  I'll be happy to make something pretty 
simple........like a sticker/label...How many do you think?
M
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<BR>Booth is Square 1 Art. &nbsp;I'll be happy to 1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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accessed at dejavu.com?  At least that was true a few years ago, maybe
the web explosion has limited their archieving efforts.
Charlotte, who doesn't get much spam, and in five years, has only
received a couple of porno shots...and nothing in the past two years, of
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In a message dated 1/26/01 1:38:54 PM US Mountain Standard Time, 
jab1997@bryanisd.org writes:
> I got this message from my principal after I forwarded the other letter to
> him.
> Jackie
> 
> 
> This person obviously has a problem if she doesn't think Bush helped
> education in Texas.  Not only is she mistaken about this, but standard have
> actually increased in the past fe1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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Why don't we meet at the Hotel? Isn't the Binney and Smith reception that 
night, too?
Great idea to meet. I've learned so much from all of you
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to join...but they make
it enticing enough TO join. Toodles.......
Hej!  You might not be forced to join, but the dues comes out of your
paycheck anyway, and goes to the charity of your choice, if you don't.
In any case, I sure do support the Nea and Cta overall.  I just wish
that sometimes they had a lower profile, and less backlash against
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	 Sun, 28Marty,
	Sounds great, What booth and how early in the convention
will you be set up ?
						Woody in KC
Marand10@aol.com wrote:
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> Hey Susan,
> 
> How 'bout if I volunteer to create labels for ARTSEDNET and have them
> at our
> booth at the convention.?  Everyone can come by and get a sticker to
> place on
> their badge... I'll be happy to do that for us!
> 
> Marty
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Hey Susan,
How 'bout if I volunteer to create labels for ARTSEDNET and have them at our 
booth at the convention.?  Everyone can come by and get a sticker to place on 
their badge... I'll be happy to do that for us!
Marty
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	 for <aBravo Sid!
I'm always amazed that teachers are the last to learn..........
Being negative and critical never changes things for the better.
Weren't we taught constructive critisizm?
We could all use a lesson on being team players.
As teachers we should be experts at praising, building up and seeing 
potential and bringing it to light. 
Patti
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In a message dated 1/28/01 8:37:19 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
skygeoff@home.com writes:
> BTW  Why did you use gesso on the scratchart paper and not white tempera
> paint?  I would have to buy gesso but we have plenty of white tempera.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Sky
> 
> 
> 
The author-illustrator uses gesso and I had it, so I used it, too.  Without 
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        You bring up a valid point. What happens to the voucher money, when
the child is kicked out of school? We should address that issue to our
representatives.
I'm cutting and pasting the committee lists for the House Education
Committee and the Senate members of the Health, Education, Labor And
Pensions Committee. I'll include the URLs incase the list gets scrambled.
House :
http://politics.yahoo.com/politics/Congress/House_of_Representatives/Committ
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Senate:
http://1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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> here is the message on my version of artsednet:
> 
> You are currently subscribed to artsednet as: pmiller@ksu.edu To
> unsubscribe send a blank email to
> leave-artsednet-3596T@lists.getty.edu  I must have subscribed at the
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> Hi there.  I need some help.  Right now we are living in LA while I
> finish my Masters in Art Ed but are looking to find a progressive city
> or town where we could settle down in about a year or so.  I'm looking
> for a place that welcomes and supports the arts--both the city and the
> school districts.  Currently I teach K-8 at a private school but I'm a
> child of public school and still believe in it.  I'm lucky to have this
> job out here because most of the public schools don't have eleme1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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Christine, I have used these many times. They are good to use with 
elementary students. They last a long time too. I use these along with 
velvet underglazes, my favorite. These go on thicker then the pan glazes. 
Sometimes you need 2 or 3 layers of the pan underglazes to see the 
color.Then I will cover with a clear glaze.MJ
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	 for <artseSomeone was asking for chair patterns...here's one I found through another 
site someone had told me about on this list....think I will try it too...
www.wackykids.org/design-activities.htm
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In a message dated 1/28/01 11:00:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
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> This sounds so cool! Did you make your own scratch boards or purchase ready
> mades? Did the students have trouble applying the gesso without getting it
> all over their main scratched item? How long did this lesson take you?
>     
We used the ready-made Scratch-Art paper, not1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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>I just finished reading David Hockneys book about his paper pools.
Kimberly, Would you please post the name of this book? It sounds 
interesting. I just finished a very interesting book called, "What it Felt 
Like" by Henry Allen.It is not directly related to art but gives you an 
interesting vision of the 20th century. MJ
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>How about for labeling purposes, before setting marbles on the foam to dry,
>if students made a paper ring and stapled it shut. Label the paper ring 
>with
>their names and place marbles inside the ring to dry. Now, for firing, .
>.....................???
>
>O.K. so far.. now before they are fired each student in a class will put a 
>dash of velvet underglaze on their marbles. Then of course write down what 
>color they used. This way they will be color coded. MJ
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Again, the voucher idea applied as a band-aid won't work... the problems you 
describe with entrance exams and church/state issues are serious 
considerations when we regard any reform... all aspects must be addressed. 
The voucher approach in its base form is a way for parents to lever against a 
poorly run school that is not educating their child. The reality of the 
private school1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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 that vouchers that pay for religious schools were unconstitutional.
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They have been using vouchers for religious schools and other private school=
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in Milwaukee for several years now....
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	 Sun, 28Kim,
	Thank you for that link to our reps & senators on the committees that
will deal with the education/voucher issues.  Now that's a political post
that is worth paying attention to.  I too have very deep concerns about
possible changes.  It will be a long four years and I want to impact the
decisions, if I can, but in a positive way.  I could make jokes and complain
but I'd rather seek some sort of solution.  Politics is the art of compromise.
we are the artists, lets help fashion the compromise. 1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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	 for <artGuys, I love you all. You are a mainline of encouragement and help for me and 
I would be lost without your help and wisdom.  
I am tired. This  chad thing here in FL wore me out. It was 24 hours a day of 
news and talk for weeks.
 Please let's stick to what we do best..art ed. For those who wish to 
continue the debate, please accept the suggestion to email each other 
personally, and not post to the list. Yes! I do delete and not read. But 
let's move on, pleeeeze.
Marsha
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	by mercury.bigshoeThis sounds so cool! Did you make your own scratch boards or purchase ready
mades? Did the students have trouble applying the gesso without getting it
all over their main scratched item? How long did this lesson take you?
    Just a quick note - I have discovered that after the students have drawn
their ideas onto newsprint have them cover the back of their drawing with
white chalk - then when they trace their drawings onto their scratchboards
the white chalk transfers easily onto the scratchboard. Ex1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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	 Sun, 28I personally teach in a public school that has gone from 10 sixth grade
teachers down to 7. Smaller numbers--mean less teachers:
From Bunki:
>Although I'm inclined to agree with your philosophy as stated, the
>reality of it here in California is that the lower the head-count in public
>schools, the fewer the teachers.
This is the scenario I see happening in MY area:
Students will receive vouchers to go to one of our private schools
(primarily  religious here). The students will attend the private
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Liz, like you I can't always get to my email, and I am SOOOO grateful 
for the list and can't wait to meet everyone who comes to NYC for the 
conference.
I am a second-year teacher, but this is my second stint. I was last 
in the classroom 30 years ago, and thought I needed to go back to 
give some credibility to my Ed.D. studies. (Some expert...she hasn't 
taught for 30 years...) (and a lot of policy people have not). I am 
glad I made the choice, but it1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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I deleting more than reading! It was so tempting to get in to the Bush
thing-heaven knows we all have strong opinions about this because we are a bunch
of dedicated teachers!
MaryB
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> Guys, I love you all. You are a mainline of encouragement and help for me
> I am tired. This  chad thing here in FL wore me out. It was 24 hours a day of
> news and talk for weeks.
>  Please let's stick to what we do best..art ed. For those who wish to
> continue the debate, please acce1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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I now live in New York City. Brooklyn. I LOVE it. I teach middle 
school in a very poor neighborhood and there are many "challenges" 
every day. I also teach at a local college, right now graphic design 
and marketing (reflecting 1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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Hi, all, just to divert away from the political discussions, here's a Iesson 
I completed with my 5th grade class (appropriate for any age) that was quite 
successful:
Scratch Paper Paintings:
Based on the children's book author and illustrator, Brian Pinkney, my 
students created a combination of scratch art and painting.  When this 
author-illustrator made a visit to our distri1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 08:18:09 -0Some of us are not fortunate to go to the National Convention.  I am know
that those of you who do will come away with a lot of wonderful
information.  I would be willing to pay anyone for any copies of
information they may come across.  I was one of four/30 teachers in our
district that was able to go to the state convention.  Coming back with
information to share with others was a joy.  Any items shared would be
greatly appreciated and rewarded.
Jackie Aust
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Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 08:05:16 -0Last week I forwarded a letter from this list to my pricipal about on
responses subjected above.  My intention was to show that we in our local
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          smtprelay1.adelphia.net (Netscape Messagi> The book
discusses the creative process, how he found subjects, and his struggle with
the new process. It does not explain how to make the paper.
Suggest you ask Mr. Hockney--either he or one of his assistants would help
you I'm sure.  You may want to get in touch with his LA gallery (LA Louvre?)
to get his address.  Big name artists aren't unapproachable--often they're
quite helpful individuals.
Best wishes,
joseph
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To all my Artsednet friends who will be attending the conference: I would 
like to coordinate meeting for dinner.  Last year in LA, on the first night 
of the conference, we planned a meeting in the lobby of the Convention Hotel 
at 7:30.   About 10 of us showed up and had dinner at a casual pub in the 
hotel.  Worked out well, so I'd like to try it again this year.  How many of 
you1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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	 Sun, 28I'll try and be there, Woody in KC
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> Roberts  and I) will be giving a NAEA presentation (free workshop) called
> OODLES OF IDEAS for secondary and middle school level on Friday 9:00-9:50 AM
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	 for <artsedit is actually illegal to require workers to belong to a union (any workers 
or persons).  This is also known as a "closed shop" I believe  For instance, 
our district has a union. (several in fact one for classified staff aka 
clerical and business staff, one for administrators and one for certified 
staff) If you choose not to belong to the union you have to still pay the 
same amount in fees (they charge a fee "not more than but can be equal to") 
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	by mercury.bigshoes.neI guess I've never thought much about it. I always thought that Charles'
real name WAS Woody (*L* ~ now I'm going to think about that everytime I see
a post from "her"!) I won't give out my address to the list, but I also
won't give my phone # to the clerk when I write a check (I make one up, and
it always starts with 555-). I feel more threatened by the fact that hubby
is a correctional officer than from some internet stalker. People all have
their reasons for signing, and I respect that.
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	 Sun, 28My 26 month old grandkids play "architect" at their table with
building blocks.  They use the word architect and say they are making
buildings.  I was an only child and never gave much thought to the
strong points of growing up with others around.
				Woody in KC
Nnaell@aol.com wrote: 
> I thought I would share a unit I am working on with my kindergartners and see
> if any of you are/have worked in similar vein.
> I am doing an architecture unit with my kindergartners.
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	 Sun, 28You got it right Judy,
	Woody is my on line name, it has been for as far back as I
can remember.  Perhaps age 2 or 3, back in about 1946 or so.
I never liked my given name of Charles Woodrow, perhaps because
my mom and grandma used my whole given name when I got in
trouble.  If I heard "Charles Woodrow Duncan Jr." , then I knew I 
was really in bad trouble.  I've always gone by Woody, except for
those few stodgy teachers in school that insisted we had to use our
given names.  When I got on the inter1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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For anyone who might be interested, two of your listserv members (Carolyn
Roberts  and I) will be giving a NAEA presentation (free workshop) called
OODLES OF IDEAS for secondary and middle school level on Friday 9:00-9:50 AM
in the Regent Parlor.
Last year we gave OODLES OF IDEAS #1. This year we will giving new1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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<< We hope to meet many of you at OODLES. Toodles......Bunki >>
I'll be there, pencil in hand!
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	 Sun, 28Yes...
I decided to send this to the whole list...It does affect us all. And maybe
I am giving misleading information to my "cyber friends"...I know the digest
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	 for <artsI thought I would share a unit I am working on with my kindergartners and see 
if any of you are/have worked in similar vein.
I am doing an architecture unit with my kindergartners.
Lesson #1:  We read "A House is a House for Me" and the children make a 
collage of their house.
Lesson #2:  We read "The Big Orange Splot"  I give them a white paper shaped 
like a house and they use markers to create and then name thier dream house.
Lesson #3:  Read "Roberto the Insect Architect" and using small1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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> Has anyone used the semi-moist underglaze that comes in pan form?  I
> was thinking of getting this for the elementary level. I thought it
> would cut down on waist, and my time of pouring out the glazes for
> them. Any suggestions. I never glazed with children before and need
> some helpful hints.
> 
They're great for small detail work, but to cover large areas would be
wasteful and time-consuming.  You still need 2-3 coats to get good
coverage.
As for cutting do1/28/2001 0:00:00  
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back on a variety of situations and do appreciate the autonomy this list 
provides when asking for such feedback.  When I reply privately to 
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I think that is just a personal preference...It certainly does not bother me 
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Message-ID: <20010130003857.2Meeting Wed. Eve 5:30 at the Hilton 
"The Binney and Smith Reception begins at 7:00.  Should
we all meet at the hotel lobby bar at the Hilton at 5:30
before the reception?"  
This sounds good to me - I'll be there! (And I am sure
Amy will be with me.)
"How 'bout if I volunteer to create labels for ARTSEDNET
and have them at our booth at the convention.?  Everyone
can come by and get a sticker to place on their badge...
I'll be happy to do that for us!...Booth is Square 1 Art.
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Ditto!  OR, Judy, the next time we get together, I will treat you to lunch in
exchange for info you get from convention goers! (Ann, I hope you are reading
this, too!)  Sound like a deal?  Really wish I could be there to meet everyone.
It's amazing how you get attached to checking the list everyday...for some time
when I first moved to Ohio and started to get to know people, cyber friends kept
me from feeling so lonely for PA.  Everyone, have a wonderful time!
> Ditto what Jackie said:
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	 foFor Release January 29, 2001
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o Focus on Understanding Multiculturalism and Its Implementation for Art=20
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John Biggers, an icon among African American fine artists passed away on 
Thursday, February 25, 2001.   He is survived by his wife of 52 years, Hazel 
Biggers.  Although he and his wife had no children physically, they were 
"parents", role models and mentors to many artists, many people.
It is Mrs. Biggers preference that money be donated for scholarships at Texas 
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Woody Duncan wrote:
> On a 12 color color wheel, analogous colors could be
> 3 colors.  as long as they are "neighbors" they would
> be in the same color "family".  If you are only using
> a 6 color color wheel it would be 2 colors or you would
> be including 2 primaries.  Does that sound right ?
>                                         Woody in KC
>
That does sound good.  Today my student teacher told me that analogous colors are
any group of three to five adjacent colors on the color whe1/29/2001 0:00:00  
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I am very interested in what others in the art world find important for a child to know in order to succeed in an art program.
If you have any thoughts you'd like to share please respond directly to me.
Thanks a million!
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Boo Hoo! I have opted to skip the conference due to
lack of funds- and I can't delete your messages about
it because I subscribe to the digest. You all are
making me very jealous- I would love to hang out with
you in person! But, I am saving money for a honeymoon
in July, so wish me luck- right now that is more
important.
On another note- I think we should help nnaell (sp?)
come up with a screen name- so we don't have to keep
putting nnaell. I can't pronounce that in my head.
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	 for <arI would like to know if any of your school web sites have warnings about the 
links and the information  on the web pages (especially middle school)..and I 
don't just mean human figures in art works....i would appreciate any info in 
this directiona and possible sites that may have warnings to parents, 
etc...anna
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I have the kids use one pencil to put in the central hole and use the
other pencil to make the circle.  This seem to work pretty well.  I have
had the centers of the orange safety compasses fall out at times and
unable to get them back in.  Betsy
"Lea, Robin" wrote:
> How do you keep the super safe-t compass in one spot on your paper if
> there is not a point to hold it?Robin
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I am assuming, that this is speaking for the whole NAEA organization.(By
the signature) I am not getting into the debate, but would rather hear
what the NAEA is currently working on- trends in art ed, etc..as long as
your on the line. Thanks, Betsy
National Art Education Association wrote:
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          (InterMail vK.4.03.01.00 201-232-122 Does anyone out there on the list serve teach art in West Virginia?  I'm
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What's it like to live there?  
	My Boyfriend moved there for a Dept. of Forestry Job, and I'm considering
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 Just wandering what the art job scene is like there.  Let me know if you
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In a message dated 1/28/01 11:58:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
mwhiteaz@cybertrails.com writes:
> I'm presenting a hands-on workshop called "Beginning Weaving on a
> Cardboard Loom" on Thursday night from 8:30-10:20.
> 
> Maggie
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> 
Maggie, is there a fee for your workshop?
Gabrielle
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You put one finger on the compass to hold it in place and put the pencil =
in the little hole and turn to make the circle.  Judy
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In a message dated 1/28/01 3:32:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
wduncan@kc.rr.com writes:
> Now, if I was going to do chat rooms and try to entice sweet young 
> 
Maybe the "Chuckinator" aka "the Chuckster"...hey were you chatting last 
night....................................hahahahahahhaah!
How did I know you would be a Woodrow!  I know three Woody's and they are all 
Woodro1/29/2001 0:00:00  
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sorry folks! hit the send button by accident and sent that e-mail spelling 
mistakes and all!
Please don't spam me-I saw them but hit the wrong button!
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them! Thanks, MJ
>Nancy Walkup and I are scheduled to make two presentations, both free.
>One is based upon our new book, "Bridging the Curriculum through Art"
>and we will have a few handouts and activities from that.  The other is
>from our recent NAEA Advisory on "How to Give a Presentation."  We are
>also including tips and writing guidelines for how to publish articles.
>
>Be sure you look for a presentation by a frien1/29/2001 0:00:00  
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>you feel is in poor taste--or not up to your standards for this 
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>you have a quick little "me too" or something of that nature....PLEASE 
>reply
>simply to that individual.
I take Judy's advice to heart and send my
appologies to the list!
I let my temper get the better of me and I am sorry!
I like the friendly, warm atmoshere of the list and am glad that it seldom 
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	 for <artI still haven't gotten my info on conference and my computer won't let me 
download it . What do I do?
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>   > In a message dated 1/28/01 11:58:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, 
> mwhiteaz@cybertrails.com writes:
> > 
> > I'm presenting a hands-on workshop called "Beginning Weaving on a
> > Cardboard Loom" on Thursday night from 8:30-10:20.
> > 
> > Maggie 
> 
> Maggie, is there a fee for your workshop?
Yes, it's one of the ticketed workshops.  They are $30 this year, with a
limit of 25 participants.  I hope everyone understands that the
presenters do not get paid, thoug1/29/2001 0:00:00  
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	 for    I've tried some student self assessment this year with mixed results. A 
couple of my high school Art 1 classes were honest in the self appraisal of 
their work and, if anything, were harder on themselves than I'd have been. 
But two other classes were flippant about it and they all gave themselves a 
bunch of 100's and A+++'s for work that was far from developed or thoughtful. 
I had to go back in and re-grade their work. My colleagues and I had come up 
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>For anyone who might be interested, two of your listserv members (Carolyn
>Roberts  and I) will be giving a NAEA presentation (free workshop) called
>OODLES OF IDEAS for secondary and middle school level on Friday 9:00-9:50 
>AM
>in the Regent Parlor.
OK I have been quietly jealous of those going to New York-now I am 
wimpering-no fair, no fair, no fair.
It sounds so great!
Think that the two of you could post your handouts on the web for the rest 
of us?  It sounds so great!
Wish I c1/29/2001 0:00:00  
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	 Mon, 29 Jan 2001 21:40:33 -08Interesting to see how different people feel about this.
I was reluctent to sign my name to anything on the web because of all the 
horror stories I had heard!
Eventually I became braver and braver.  Slowly signing my first name and 
eventually my full name.
I realized how much of teaching and being an artist is networking and 
socializing with others.  I could not do this anonomously.  Among other 
reasons I want to sell my art work and it is all signed Shar Arndt.
Fear is the mind killer.
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>In addition, I noticed an increase in spam mail and even pornographic mail
>since I have joined this list.
Interesting-this e-mail account of the several I have for different 
reasons(bussiness mail, personal mail etc.) is the only account that does 
not get any spam! None!
However I discovered how much of the spam does happen!  One friend sent me a 
webmail addy wrong and I got into an oppsy site-which by the way took 20 
million clicks to get out of.
Since then the  other account, that 1/29/2001 0:00:00  
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>Just had a pretty good Australia Day long weekend and went to Herring 
>Island (Melbourne) to see an exhibit of gum leaf painting.  Apparently (I 
>certainly did not know) there is a long history of this in Australia and 
>the Melbourne University School of Botany organised an exhibition by modern 
>painters using this medium.  It was pretty cool, 'specially in the environs 
>(island covered in native vegetation in the middle of a river that runs 
>through Melbourne - island can only be reached1/29/2001 0:00:00  
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In a message dated 1/29/01 7:54:16 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
naea@dgs.dgsys.com writes:
> Give me a break . . . unconscionable Coup?  The babies haven't committed any 
> crime. ---
Its too easy and so typical to try to make an argument based on dogma.
How dare you try to force women to bear unwanted offspring because of some 
weird metaphysical bullshit?
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> Speaking of the convention, and all the talk about Bush and education, the art teachers in my district cannot go to the convention because there is no money for teacher professional development, even to match from state grants. My school wouldn't even get me a 1/2 day sub to go to a local conference sponsored in part by the Smithonian. We were told there was "NO MONEY.PERIOD"
> So it would be wonderful if some of you could make this information available to those of us who ca1/29/2001 0:00:00  
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We are
>constantly trying to find ways to better promote and sell our programs and
>that is work. Don't wait for them to come to us. we have to get out and 
>make
>ourselves visible by any means available. We are the visual arts, so LET'S
>GET VISUAL!!!
>Barbara
So Barbara and others How do we get visual?  What are the best ways to get 
the arts out in the public eye?
Shar
Fear is the mind killer.
Fear is the little death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permi1/29/2001 0:00:00  
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Sharon and other artednetters....
       More than once I have clicked the "send" button without waiting that 
designated time period. Probably all of us have sent one or two e-mails we 
wish we could take back....were all human and I think we all realize that. If 
we weren't passionate people, we wouldn't have become art teachers. Thank God 
we have differing beliefs and aren't all 1/29/2001 0:00:00  
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  (SMTPD32-5.05) id A2C8343D017A; Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:Interesting topic!
I teach K-5 in a rural area.  One of the poorest counties in NY state.  I
find absolutely no difference in young children's readiness for art, nor is
there any difference in abilities in relation to socioeconomic status.  What
does sometimes make a difference is the child's ability to stay focussed and
attend to the task.
Liz in rural NY
Subject: Research on Art readiness in relation to socioeconomic background
> I am doing research on the role that a student's socioeconom1/29/2001 0:00:00  
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	by nsn.k12.nv.us (8.9.0/8.9.0) with I have used the semi-moist pans for years.  The A set has really strong
colors that the kids like--it has strong  teal  and leaf green and brown, 
and a maroon that I
have to talk them into substituting for reds etc.  The other sets have
colors that are kind of washy, but the thing I like about them is that
they fire like they look--if they look strong and solid, they fire that
way, if they look wimpy and washed out, they fire that way.  I find that
kids are often disappointed with velvet underglazes1/29/2001 0:00:00  
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          (InterMail vM.4.01On 1/29/01 1:02 PM, Kimberly Herbert at kimberly@wcc.net wrote:
> MaryAnn,
> I=92m designing our Summer For Kids program. I like the shadow
> drawing idea, but I am worried about the weather (100+ or high wind). I
> could redirect the lights in the gallery to the center floor area (away f=
rom
> the walls) and let the kids position furniture to cast the shadows, or us=
e
> each other as models.  Do you think that they would have fun with that, o=
r
> would it be too artificial? Maybe we could ev1/29/2001 0:00:00  
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X-Sender: h24-70-113-121.cg.shawcable.nWith regards to window painting and soap I would like to say, from experience, that you add only a couple of drops of dishsoap per approx. 2 oz. of paint.  It's not mandatory to add soap at all and the paint you use depends on preference.  Choices include; tempera, acrylic or poster paint.  I hope this helps.
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	 Mon, 29Rosie, 
	I have a copy that I downloaded.  You are welcome to use it.
Or, I could download an additional copy for you.  You would need 
to pick it up somewhere.  At my school or my house ?????
Contact me and let me know, Woody
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> I still haven't gotten my info on conference and my computer won't let me
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Hi,
I am presenting on Wed. from 1:00-1:50.
I am listed under Higher Education, but I really think that what I have to
share would be interesting for anyone interested in arts integration, urban
issues or college students linking up with middle school children.  The title
of my session is Art Education As Social Action.  I will be giving out a
packet of lesson plans that integrate a1/29/2001 0:00:00  
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with the
two on the outside being analogous to the central color.
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Thanks for the idea posted, I think last year from Carolyn Roberts, about
seating arrangements. Each student got a 2x6" slip of paper when they
entered the room. Had them write nice and big their birthday. The next
instruction was to line up somewhere in the room in order starting from
September. I didn't help the1/29/2001 0:00:00  
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Hi experts --
I'm currently having a problem that I never had before.  My first =
graders are using thinned Elmer's glue (regular, not washable) to apply =
tissue paper to their artwork. They're using paintbrushes to apply the =
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I still havent gotten my NAEA Packette!  I did print the reg form off the 
site, but I'm a bit confused with the process.  the 
workshops/seminars/classes dont seem to have any numbers with them?  How does 
one register for a class in advance if there is no fee for the 
class/workshop/seminar?  Does one just Show up? and hope that there is room 
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I'm finally able to report on my Xmas break trip to Honduras; I waited
'til the list was working right again, then got too busy to write.
I started the trip in the village of Copan Ruinas, next to the famous
Maya site of Copan.  I had heard of a Dutch woman there who runs an art
program for the local kids (Copan Pinta--Copan Paints).  My attempt to
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	 Mon, 29Ditto what Jackie said:
>Some of us are not fortunate to go to the National Convention.  I know
>that those of you who do will come away with a lot of wonderful
>information.  I would be willing to pay anyone for any copies of
>information they may come across.
From now on NO ONE is allowed to mention the convention UNLESS you sneak a
copy of handouts for me too--especially all of my cyber list friends who
know me and know what I will like. Definitely pick up any interesting
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MaryB
Woody Duncan wrote:
> On a 12 color color wheel, analogous colors could be
> 3 colors.  as long as they are "neighbors" they would
> be in the same color "family".  If you are only using
> a 6 color color wheel it would be 2 colors or you would
> be including 2 primaries.  Does that sound right ?
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Numo Jaeger & Michael Miller wrote: All glazes contain chemicals.
If you use the pan type underglazes , I believe there is a toxicity warning for the blues.
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