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> artsednet-digest Sunday, February 28 1999 Volume 02 : Number 1275
>
> This edition includes :
> re: blood from a turnip
> Re:How do you deal with failures
> meaning/size
> Re: Squeezing Blood Out of Turnips
> Fwd: Squeezing Blood Out of Turnips
> More on Turnips
> Re: Squeezing Blood Out of Turnips
> Re: Squeezing Blood Out of Turnips
> Re: Squeezing Blood out of Turnips
> Need more students in after-school arts school
> classes per day...
> Re: How do you deal with failures
> Fw: classes per day
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 22:29:54 -0600
> From: Teri Sanford <terily>
> Subject: re: blood from a turnip
>
> I guess I have it GREAT this year... Started teaching at a rural school
> that had never had art before. I am teaching 6 periods per day, the
> first 5 are elementary classes at 50 min each, the last period
> alternates days between 9-12 and 6th, which are 75 minutes. This year
> they were very generous in my budgeting, since the program was new.
> They had already bought the kiln and the tables and chairs. They gave
> me $6,000 to start up the program. The art room is in the elementary.
> They have told me that next year I probably will get "only" $1000 for a
> budget for the 500 elementary kids (I won't be doing the MS/HS next
> year, as the new building will be open and I will get to hire a new
> person). I tried to act like I would "make do" with that amount, when
> inside I was jumping for joy. At my previous school, we had over 750
> kids and only got $600 per year in budget. I was the queen of
> fundraising and donations when I was there.
>
> teri
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 00:14:55 EST
> From: LiegeB
> Subject: Re:How do you deal with failures
>
> Hello to all,
> I've been reading this list for several weeks now; this a wonderful group!
> Everyone seems to be quite committed to quality teaching so I'm hoping you'll
> have some input regarding my recent feelings of inadequacies as an art
> educator,
> or educator of any type. I teach K-6, each group meets once per week for
> only 30 minutes. The problem is I feel like I'm functioning more as a
> babysitter than someone providing a valuable resource. There is some pressure
> from administration to produce pretty things for the walls but for the most
> part I am able to put that aside and I teach what I want. I guess I don't
> feel I'm getting the results I would like (not in terms of product because I'm
> much more interested inprocess). How does everyone deal with students who are
> not "art majors"? I realize I can't inspire them all but what to do with
> those that, if life were perfect would be filtered out of the class? This is
> not to say that art is only for the serious student on the contrary I think it
> is an essential to producing a whole person but, like it or not, there are
> always going to be some that are unwilling to move beyond crayons, regardless
> of age. What do you do when you realize you just aren't going to reach them?
> And how do you prevent them from being a disruption?
>
> I am certain this is the right group to consult and will greatly appreciate
> any thoughts, positive or negative.
>
> Hoping you're all enjoying the weekend,
> Louisa
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 03:25:25 -0500
> From: marcia m eaton <marciameaton>
> Subject: meaning/size
>
> Debi's message about the various sizes that artists think in is
> fascinating. I have not idea what size I "see in" but then I'm not an
> artist. Here's a puzzle I that always makes my brain spin: Look at a full
> moon and ask yourself how big it looks to you----like an orange, a
> basketball, a beach ball? I find that I can't answer this question. I'd
> be curious what your students say. If they were going to make a sculpture
> of the moon, how big do they think it should be? Marcia
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 08:37:16 EST
> From: CPKinomi
> Subject: Re: Squeezing Blood Out of Turnips
>
> Hi Kate,
> 9 CLASSES!!!!!! That is atrocious! I teach k-5 in Stoughton,MA and I am in 2
> schools. There are six 42-minute classes a day and a 42-minute planning
> period daily. The exception is kindergarten....they have art for 21 minutes a
> week. (Morning and afternoon sessions). The kindergarten classes are
> ridiculous because by the time I finish teaching the lesson and pass out
> supplies (the aides do not come w/ the classes) it is time to go! UGH! Good
> luck Kate. Fight the insanity!!!!!!
> Carolyn ;-)
> CPKInomi
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 08:50:16 EST
> From: RWilk85411
> Subject: Fwd: Squeezing Blood Out of Turnips
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> Subject: Re: Squeezing Blood Out of Turnips
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> I teach in Myrtle Beach, SC. I teach at Carolina Forest Education Center High
> School. I would ordinarily teach three hour and a half classes every day with
> an hour and a half planning and 25 minutes for lunch. This year in order to
> accommodate my Art Major students in a more educationally sound situation, I
> voluntarily gave up my planning period. I won't do it again next year. Nine
> classes a day doesn't seem like it would allow enough time to even pretend to
> teach art. I thought Charleston was more advanced than that. It's that kind of
> approach that continues to render our country so culturally illiterate.
> Reatha Wilkins
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>
> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 09:51:49 EST
> From: Spark2arts
> Subject: More on Turnips
>
> Dear all:
> Thank you for your speedy responses. Let me qualify the situation here in SC.
> You're right, heneborn, Charleston is an amazing place to live with it's 18th
> century history, ocean, and quaintness. Believe me I have worked it out so
> that all this doesn't get to me after school and on weekends. Slowly I'd like
> to be a part of contributing to some positive changes in this rapidly
> burgeoning place in the South. In many ways I am reminded of my teaching-Art-
> in-Africa-days with the Peace Corps. The truth is they need good art teachers
> here... About my schedule, I Teach 8 classes on Mondays, and 7 classes T-F per
> day. There are 9 periods per day, so I have 40 mins for lunch, and 40 minutes
> planning each day with the exception of Mon. But I have only 2 preps on Mon.
> This is all very different from teaching in NYS as I did last year. Yet many
> art teachers have it worse than I. My school is a wonderful, supportive place
> to work in many ways. Class periods are 40 minutes long and their is no
> passing time between classes. When your 40 minutes are up there is another
> class waiting outside the door. There is no specification with the state for
> the amount of classes we, as Art teachers, should teach per day and our
> district arts ed supervisor wants to make some changes. We have no unions
> here, obviously. He feels teaching 8 and 9 classes a day is too much, and is
> going to the state to ask for 7. He feels that asking for 6 classes a day
> would be too much to ask for. I think 7 is too many classes to teach and prep
> for each day. You're right, I do get exhausted, but the warm ocean breezes
> quickly revive me. Out of those of you who have responded so far to my message
> the average class load for each is 6 classes a day, as I suspected, with some
> @ 7. To add fuel to the fire, last year in NYS a full day at the middle school
> was considered five 50 min classes with 5 min in between. Few understand the
> preparation, planning and displays that take time in order to provide a
> quality visual arts program.
>
> I am a new teacher to this area and don't want to make waves until I
> understand the situation completely. For now I'd like to know what I can do to
> get the ball rolling to improve the quality of arts education here in an
> unobtrusive, positive way. Your suggestions are welcome. I thought a survey of
> class load per day would be useful information, please continue sending me
> this info.
>
> Kindest Regards,
>
> Kate Rothra
> Belle Hall Elementary
> Charleston County Schools
> Charleston, SC
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 09:54:16 -0500 (EST)
> From: Stenger - Judith DiSalvo <jstenger>
> Subject: Re: Squeezing Blood Out of Turnips
>
> In Montgomery County, Maryland, we teach five out of seven periods. One
> period is for team meetings or Instruction Related Activities, and one is
> for planning/preparation. If you are a department chair, you usually
> teach four.
> This
> is in Middle School. Elementary and Middle schools have different needs.
> Judy
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 27 Feb 1999 22:05:20 -0600
> From: "Debbie Nicholas" <dnick>
> Subject: Re: Squeezing Blood Out of Turnips
>
> I teach 6 forty-five minute classes. The state of Texas requires teachers
> have a 30 minute duty-free
> lunch. Then I have a 45 minute conference.
>
> Debbie Nicholas
> Linden-Kildare Jr. High
> 102 N. Taylor
> Linden, TX 75563
> dnick
>
> "Every child is an artist. The problem is how to
> remain an artist once he grows up."
> - Pablo Picasso
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:30:04 -0500
> From: "Glenda" <gjmoore>
> Subject: Re: Squeezing Blood out of Turnips
>
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> Kate,
>
> How in the world can you teach 9 classes a day? I teach at a K-5 school =
> in Raeford, NC. Our enrollment, at present, is approximately 750, which =
> constantly changes due to our location close to Fort Bragg Army Base =
> where kids come and go. My principal does my schedule FIRST each year =
> (ahead of Music, PE, Spanish, Library, Computer Lab, etc.) to make sure =
> all my grades are together so I won=92t have to change materials between =
> classes: he then fits the others in. As our school grows he adjusts =
> class time accordingly as not to overload me. It really helps when you =
> have a principal who is considerate and aware of your need for time in =
> planning and preparation. I think our state has a set number of =
> students per resource teacher and I was told just the other day that we =
> slightly exceed that limit (but I=92m not complaining!). Have you =
> checked to see if your state has a similar quota (# of students per =
> resource teacher)? What is your grade level and schedule? My schedule is =
> as follows:
>
> Monday =96 (5) 1st grades=85 30 minutes each
>
> Tuesday =96 (5) 3rd grades=85 45 minutes each
>
> Wednesday =96 (2) K=92s=85 30 minutes each / (4) 5th grades=85 45 =
> minutes each
>
> Thursday =96 (2) K=92s=85 30 minutes each / (5) 4th grades=85 45 minutes =
> each
>
> Friday =96 (1) K=85 30 minutes / (5) 1st grades=85 30 minutes each
>
> Good luck!
>
> Glenda
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> <P><FONT size=3D3>Kate,</FONT></P>
> <P><FONT size=3D3>How in the world can you teach 9 classes a day? I =
> teach at a K-5=20
> school in Raeford, NC. Our enrollment, at present, is approximately 750, =
> which=20
> constantly changes due to our location close to Fort Bragg Army Base =
> where kids=20
> come and go. My principal does my schedule FIRST each year (ahead of =
> Music, PE,=20
> Spanish, Library, Computer Lab, etc.) to make sure all my grades are =
> together so=20
> I won’t have to change materials between classes: he then fits the =
> others=20
> in. As our school grows he adjusts class time accordingly as not to =
> overload me.=20
> It really helps when you have a principal who is considerate and aware =
> of your=20
> need for time in planning and preparation. I think our state has a =
> set=20
> number of students per resource teacher and I was told just the other =
> day that=20
> we slightly exceed that limit (but I’m not complaining!). Have you =
> checked=20
> to see if your state has a similar quota (# of students per resource =
> teacher)?=20
> What is your grade level and schedule? My schedule is as =
> follows:</FONT></P>
> <P><FONT size=3D3>Monday – (5) 1<SUP>st</SUP> grades… 30 =
> minutes=20
> each</FONT></P>
> <P><FONT size=3D3></FONT><FONT size=3D3>Tuesday – (5) =
> 3<SUP>rd</SUP>=20
> grades… 45 minutes each</FONT></P>
> <P><FONT size=3D3>Wednesday – (2) K’s… 30 minutes =
> each / (4)=20
> 5<SUP>th</SUP> grades… 45 minutes each</FONT></P>
> <P><FONT size=3D3>Thursday – (2) K’s… 30 minutes each =
> / (5)=20
> 4<SUP>th</SUP> grades… 45 minutes each</FONT></P>
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> 1<SUP>st</SUP>=20
> grades… 30 minutes each</FONT></P>
> <P><FONT size=3D3>Good luck!</FONT></P>
> <P><FONT size=3D3>Glenda</FONT></P></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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>
> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1998 16:14:48 -0400
> From: Vanessa Mellom <mellom>
> Subject: Need more students in after-school arts school
>
> Hi you all... I hope you all can help me.
>
> I am from West Haven, CT
> I am a art teacher All For Arts and Gymnastics, a private school that
> specializes in after school enrichment programs. And a exciting summer
> camp.
>
> Through out the whole year, I teach specialized art classes in
> Drawing & Painting, Sculpture, Ceramics, Arts & Crafts, and Art Studio.
> The classes are capped at no more then 12 students in a class, so
> individualized instruction is paramount. My art materials closet is an
> art teachers dream. And I am well praciticed in the tricks of the trade
> as both a state certified teacher and a professional artsit.
> Classes are open to all ages. Age 2 - adults.
> Students are grouped according to age and ability.
>
> Our summer camp program, for children, incorporates theater, dance,
> gymnastics, music and art classes in the morning and outdoor sports
> activities in the afternoon. Every Friday we do Variety Shows where
> everybody gets to show off what they have done over the past week! In
> art we build sets and we also put on a puppet show.
>
> My problem is this... I have no experiences in sales or administration.
> In order to be a full time employee I have to find more students.
> So the question is this...
> Where and How do I find more students?
>
> Vanessa Mellom
> Mellom
> (203)445-8043
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 09:10:02 -0800 (PST)
> From: bkramer.us (Bunki Kramer)
> Subject: classes per day...
>
> Hi...I teach 6 classes a day...each 43 mins. long...plus a 15 min. homeroom
> situation here in northern California (SF). We have 5 min. passing periods
> (due to a large campus of many portables added), one 43 min. prep period (I
> have 4 preps a day), and lunch. I teach middle school. Lots and LOTS of
> dutytime, though. I head up the Art Department (hee, hee) because I'm the
> only art teacher.
>
> There is not even one elementary art teacher in our district (and our
> district is supposedly a "progressive" one). The "art" is given strictly
> volunteerly by non-art-trained PTA moms at this level through an "Art in
> the Trunk" series. THIS is hit and miss at it's finest. Some years they
> can't even get one mom to volunteer.
>
> High school teachers have only 5 classes per day. There are 3 art teachers
> (2 full-time and one PT) at our feeder high school. Department heads have
> only 4 classes/day.
>
> Toodles.......
>
> Bunki Kramer - Los Cerros Middle School
> 968 Blemer Rd., Danville, California 94526
> bkramer.ca.us...(sch)925-552-5620
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 13:07:31 -0400
> From: Wendy Manning <wmanning>
> Subject: Re: How do you deal with failures
>
> It depends on why they are unwilling.....could be any number of reasons.
> One thing you can do is try to find some lessons that fit your goals and at the
> same time almost guarantee success. If the work looks "cool " and artistic, and
> you make a fuss over it, the self-esteem boost might be enough to encourage them
> to "move beyond crayons" when they get something a little more challenging.I have
> often found this to work with the type of kids you mention. The self-esteem aspect
> seems to play a bigger role in art then some other subjects, at least at
> middle-school level.
> Other kids have responded to my developing-the-right-brain speil, and I tell
> them that even if they don't like art they are making themselves smarter by doing
> it.
> In my experience the biggest factor of all is class size. I have a few smaller
> classes this year (24 as opposed to 33) and I've reached some kids I was
> unsuccessful with last year, simply because I have had more time to spend with
> them and could deal more quickly with disruptions.
> Having said all this , I haven't had the Grade Seven Class From Hell yet, not
> till next term. When they were the Grade Six Class From Hell they weren't willing
> to do anything and I was at a loss at how to motivate them (as were the rest of
> their teachers).
> Wendy
>
> LiegeB wrote:
>
> > Hello to all,
> > I've been reading this list for several weeks now; this a wonderful group!
> > Everyone seems to be quite committed to quality teaching so I'm hoping you'll
> > have some input regarding my recent feelings of inadequacies as an art
> > educator,
> > or educator of any type. I teach K-6, each group meets once per week for
> > only 30 minutes. The problem is I feel like I'm functioning more as a
> > babysitter than someone providing a valuable resource. There is some pressure
> > from administration to produce pretty things for the walls but for the most
> > part I am able to put that aside and I teach what I want. I guess I don't
> > feel I'm getting the results I would like (not in terms of product because I'm
> > much more interested inprocess). How does everyone deal with students who are
> > not "art majors"? I realize I can't inspire them all but what to do with
> > those that, if life were perfect would be filtered out of the class? This is
> > not to say that art is only for the serious student on the contrary I think it
> > is an essential to producing a whole person but, like it or not, there are
> > always going to be some that are unwilling to move beyond crayons, regardless
> > of age. What do you do when you realize you just aren't going to reach them?
> > And how do you prevent them from being a disruption?
> >
> > I am certain this is the right group to consult and will greatly appreciate
> > any thoughts, positive or negative.
> >
> > Hoping you're all enjoying the weekend,
> > Louisa
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 12:31:33 -0500
> From: "Stephanie Ignazio" <smi>
> Subject: Fw: classes per day
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Stephanie Ignazio <smi>
> To: Spark2arts <Spark2arts>
> Date: Sunday, February 28, 1999 12:31 PM
> Subject: classes per day
>
> >Hi, I teach usually about 6-7 classes a day. ( Some days these can
> correlate
> >into extra art periods for integration. Others are regularly scheduled
> >classes.) before I came to this school I taught in a community that my
> >position required me to be in 3 buildings, teaching 6 classes a day with
> one
> >travel period to get there on the same day and ONE PREP Period a week. My
> >budget was ok, nothing greast, but I had to share all supplies with two
> >other art teachers. The district had 7 elementary schools. ( So it was kind
> >of first come first served with materials.) Now my budget is about 4.50 per
> >child...when they decide to give out the full amount..which usually never
> >happens. Stephanie
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
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