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Re: Disnification

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Teresa Tipton (
Wed, 19 Feb 1997 19:26:27 -0800 (PST)

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Yes, there's what I call "insipid triteness" about
Disney/commercialization culutre, but when the kids know "Michaelanelo,
Donatello, and Raphael" as names of artists from Ninja turtles, it gives
us a seguey into the REAL THING.

Teresa Tipton

On Wed, 19 Feb 1997, Peggy Woolsey wrote:

> >There is the other point too that the Disney style , like so many
> >introduced species, (ecologically speaking) thrives at the expense of
> >the native variety!
> >Bob Greaves.
> > I too
> >find it troublesome that this "Disneyization" Bob speaks of is infiltrating
> >other aspects of our culture...beyond children's literature. (Roland quote)
> Bob Graves' quote brings to mind other ecological ramifications of
> the Disney monopoly of culture, and that is the concept of (loss of)
> biodiversity. A healthy system must have great miltiplicity to succeed
> (survive). Disneyism reduces the variety of art style to a smooth, slick
> commonly loved commerical denominator. OK, this is in the nature of folk
> art to assume the story belongs to you when you tell it over again (Hans
> Anderson, the Grimm Brothers etc. did not generate their stories. They
> collected them, scouring their coutrysides for all the great stuff handed
> down for generations, embelished, modified in many ways). But the Disney
> empire is inescapable. We are surrounded by sweet, sexy, uni-dimensional
> personnaes, our children dominated from infancy by every imaginable
> must-have book, toy, toothbrush, pillow cover, bookbag, lunchpail.
> What cultural riches do we lose by accepting the one-stop Disney version
> of our cherished, varied and sometimes strange myths,tales and fables? What
> do we gain by all the happy ever after with the Prince endings? (The little
> mermaid turns into sea foam when she fails to win the Prince in most
> versions of this fairy tale).
> What about revisionist history? Many folks are still smoking and smarting
> from the Disney version of Pocahauntus.(My sp). Not only did P. not marry
> John Smith, but she died from tuberculosis in a dirty London tenement. When
> I bring up these issues with my students they generally boo me down for my
> negative attitude and ask me what I've got against such a successful and
> rich company as Disney. I tell them about the "real" Beauty and the Beast
> story which is a classic psychological thriller (Ever see Jean Cocteau's
> version)? And I ask them to think about the reasons why Disney has to throw
> in a jealous boyfriend and a physical fight when neither appear in the folk
> story.
> How do the above concerns impact on us, the art educators? If you can't
> beat em, join em? Should we fight it? Ignore it? Work with it? Are you
> comfortable with Disney imagry? Uncomfortable? Concerned? Unconcerned? Is
> it ART? Love, Peggy

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