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Re: [teacherartexchange] New Class Blog


From: Rebecca Burch (mamallama_at_TeacherArtExchange)
Date: Sat Feb 02 2008 - 14:40:07 PST

Amen to that, Diane! I've attended some really cool workshops for
integrating other subjects into art (it's not hard -- art is like a
hub where everything comes together!) but I've attended some stinkers,
too. If you do it wrong, the students know you're just trying to push
something into the lesson unnaturally, and they don't take it

You all have inspired me to get my butt in gear and start planning
something with my other art teachers! Even if we could all get
together for coffee or something, it would be a start.


On Feb 2, 2008 5:27 PM, Diane Gregory <> wrote:
> Hi Michal.
> I agree with you completely!
> We, as university professors, need to do a better job
> educating future teachers about how to integrate art and other subjects
> without watering down any subject matter. Making connections is important and those
> connections need to be real, authentic and challenging...nor trivial connections.
> Thanks, Michal
> Cheers,
> P.S. Say no to in-service that does not contain strategies and methods for supporting and working with
> teachers over time to know and develop new skills. The one shot workshops are ineffective, not matter how
> inspiring. We must develop a new model for professional development. I would love to hear
> what kind of professional development k-12 teachers need and how it should be carried out.
> Dr. Diane C. Gregory
> Associate Professor of Art Education
> Director, Undergraduate & Graduate
> Studies in Art Education
> Department of Visual Arts
> Texas Woman's University
> Denton, TX 76204
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> From: M. Austin <>
> To: TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group <>
> Sent: Saturday, February 2, 2008 2:30:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [teacherartexchange] New Class Blog
> I had to laugh at the comments on inservices for art. The last district
> inservice that was held for all K-12 teachers entailed our building
> 'ladders'. These ladders consist of building a cohesive lesson based on
> the
> state standards, focusing on where a student is currently at based on
> his/her NWEA test scores, which of course, are focused entirely around
> reading and math. I asked the lady how I was supposed to build my
> ladder
> when 1. I don't have access to the student's test data since I don't
> have a
> login, 2. I don't have MS/HS classes that only have one grade, 3. None
> of
> these test scores take into account art standards, 4. I don't think I
> should
> be responsible for knowing and teaching to the 10 different grade
> levels
> state standards in both reading AND math. The 'expert' just told me to
> do
> the best I could. So much for an expert - a true 'teacher' would have
> been
> prepared to help those of us who teach outside the tested curriculums
> to
> integrate reading and math within our subjects.
> I attend my state art conference every year to help find new
> inspration.
> I watch both my own service center as well as one in a neighboring
> community
> for creative workshops - I'm always surprised that there are a fair
> amount
> of them offered. Plan make-and-take workshops with art teachers in your
> area. They probably want to connect as much as you do. Also, connecting
> through this list, and collaborating online with like-minded people
> help for
> those of us that are isolated from other art teachers on a daily basis.
> ~Michal
> 3-12 Kansas Art Teacher
> HS Digital Communications
> Technology Integration Specialist
> > I am a beginning art teacher, with 17 years of experience in the
> > "regular" classroom. We currently have a Fine Arts director who has
> > retired on the job, so to speak. I have never been to an inservice
> > taught by the district about art, nor are there meetings for art
> > teachers, nor any get togethers at which we can swap ideas, or meet
> and
> > find ways to relate to one another. Maybe this is not unusual. At
> this
> > point it seems that it will require the initiative of one of us to
> start
> > such a thing.
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