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RE: Elementary Drawing

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From: Rebecca Stone-Danahy (RebeccaStoneDanahy_at_TeacherArtExchange)
Date: Wed Dec 12 2001 - 05:44:48 PST

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I've been there many times. Stand tall. The kids just don't want to work
and they think that running to tell someone how mean or hard you are will
solve their problems. I view it as a society ailment - kids have learned
that they don't have to work and mom or dad will go to bat for them to
"protect them". You will learn who your friends are in situations like
this!

Becky in NC

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From: Rdunkelart@aol.com [mailto:Rdunkelart@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 6:14 PM
To: ArtsEdNet Talk
Subject: Elementary Drawing

Help!!! Today some fifth grade students complained to the principal that I
am too hard on them and expect too much of them - that they are doing their
best and I keep correcting them. Geeze isn;t that my job. One young boy
draws people without necks puffy abdomens, stick arms and legs. I told him
that in fifth grade
we should try to concentrate on all body parts and draw them in proportion.

I then
showed him a simple drawing of a man - two opposing triangles for the torso
and
then barrel arms and legs. Very simple and dooable for his age. He walked
away
miffed that I had corrected him. Same when we draw trees or any other thing

we
have covered over the last many years. I show them the realistic way -
again - - not being
critical but urging them to grow in their art - not staying in that
comfortable spot of
doing the same thing over over the same way but pushing themselves further.

I do allow for creativity and imagination but you have to start with
something first I use
the allegory of learning to walk - it is more comfortable and less dangerous

to crawl
around - why didn;t you give up and not walk??? Makes me mad that the kids

won;t
address this with me but tell their teachers who then tell the principal.
Any of you
in this spot??? 

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I've been there many times.&nbsp; Stand tall. The =
kids just don't want to work and they think that running to tell =
someone how mean or hard you are will solve their problems.&nbsp; I =
view it as a society ailment - kids have learned that they don't have =
to work and mom or dad will go to bat for them to &quot;protect =
them&quot;.&nbsp; You will learn who your friends are in situations =
like this!</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Becky in NC</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Rdunkelart@aol.com [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:Rdunkelart@aol.com">mailto:Rdunkelart@aol.com</A>]</FONT>=
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 6:14 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: ArtsEdNet Talk</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Elementary Drawing</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Help!!!&nbsp; Today some fifth grade students =
complained to the principal that I </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>am too hard on them and expect too much of them - =
that they are doing their </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>best and I keep correcting them.&nbsp; Geeze isn;t =
that my job.&nbsp; One young boy </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>draws people without necks puffy abdomens, stick =
arms and legs.&nbsp; I told him </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>that in fifth grade</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>we should try to concentrate on all body parts and =
draw them in proportion.&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>I then</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>showed him a simple drawing of a man - two opposing =
triangles for the torso </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>then barrel arms and legs.&nbsp; Very simple and =
dooable for his age.&nbsp; He walked </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>away</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>miffed that I had corrected him.&nbsp; Same when we =
draw trees or any other thing </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>we</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>have covered over the last many years.&nbsp; I show =
them the realistic&nbsp; way - </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>again -&nbsp; - not being</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>critical but urging them to grow in their art - not =
staying&nbsp; in that </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>comfortable spot of </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>doing the same thing over over the same way but =
pushing themselves further.&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>I do allow for creativity and imagination but you =
have to start with </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>something first&nbsp; I use</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the allegory of learning to walk - it is more =
comfortable and less dangerous </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>to crawl</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>around - why didn;t you give up and not =
walk???&nbsp;&nbsp; Makes me mad that the kids </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>won;t</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>address this with me but tell their teachers who =
then tell the principal.&nbsp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Any of you</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>in this spot??? </FONT>
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