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Fwd: * meaning of art fine art etc.

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RWilk85411
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Another comment off my other list that I thought was interesting. Nice to get
a perspective outside the education community.
Reatha

In a message dated 8/4/98 12:42:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bobbo
writes:

<< Back in the old days when I believed you could go to Community College to
be an artist (HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA), I was so fortunate as to study art
history with an brilliant fellow named Kenneth Bare. He pointed out that
any culture (hence its art forms) go through a four-position cycle:
1) primitive - discovery, experimentation, naive forms
2) classical - form now predominates. There is an emphasis on structure,
values, right and wrong approaches, all seeking the sublime through the
"compression" noted above.
3) romantic - in which content predominates over form, emotion over reason,
dynamism over serenity, power over balance.
4) decadent - not a moral judgment, just the declining period of a
civilization, or a stage of a civilization, which, in collapsing, gives way
to (you guessed it)

a new primitive.

Just as the embryo in utero goes through the evolution of the species, so
it may be (or at least have been, before the mass media gave us all so many
premature choices) that the artist goes through these cycles, perhaps many
times in one's creative life.
>>

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>> One can chose to
>>violate the rules of the game, but if you are not even aware of
>>those rules you are not a player-whatever you think."
>>David
>>
>>--Good point, but sort of an absolute again.
>
>There is power in limits.It is the compression that makes the expression
>powerful. Rules are our tribute to form, and form is the underlying
>structure that allows for creative liberties.Without underlying form it
>is a mess. Maybe thats gushy art.
>
>" I wish to astonish Paris with an apple." Paul C=E9zanne
>

Back in the old days when I believed you could go to Community College to
be an artist (HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA), I was so fortunate as to study art
history with an brilliant fellow named Kenneth Bare. He pointed out that
any culture (hence its art forms) go through a four-position cycle:
1) primitive - discovery, experimentation, naive forms
2) classical - form now predominates. There is an emphasis on structure,
values, right and wrong approaches, all seeking the sublime through the
"compression" noted above.
3) romantic - in which content predominates over form, emotion over reaso=
n,
dynamism over serenity, power over balance.
4) decadent - not a moral judgment, just the declining period of a
civilization, or a stage of a civilization, which, in collapsing, gives w=
ay
to (you guessed it)

a new primitive.

Just as the embryo in utero goes through the evolution of the species, so
it may be (or at least have been, before the mass media gave us all so ma=
ny
premature choices) that the artist goes through these cycles, perhaps man=
y
times in one's creative life.

On the other hand, surgery is a reflection of the most current tools and
techniques, along with interpretations of medical research, based purely =
on
numbers. Allopathic (traditional Western) medicine is very much a classic=
al
(form-driven) pursuit. Herbalism, acupuncture, Chinese and non-traditiona=
l
methods seem more to follow the artistic cycles.

Just my dollar and a quarter.

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