At 08:27 AM 8/28/02 EDT, you wrote: >Since I share a secondary classroom with a (believe it!) geometry teacher, I >want to integrate math into my art some. >Beth I am enjoying a new book, Art and Cognition: Integrating the Visual Arts Into the Curriculum, by Arthur D. Efland, 2002. I recommend it for art teachers who want ideas to help them articulate ways that art helps us all become better at thinking. I also like to make math/art connections. The whole business of size rendition in drawing as it relates to distance can be mathematically predicted and/or based on observation. Linear perspective can be observed and/or calculated. My drafting software renders three-objects in perspective as if by magic. Of course it is all mathematically determined in the computer. Camera zoom lenses provide very interesting perspective comparisons. When mixing colors it is interesting to note the mathematical proportions of pure blue to pure yellow to make a medium pure green. Comparing this mathematically to the making of red and blue to make purple seems like good science that is very useful to artists. How much black by percentage is needed to make a white into middle gray? Of course all these experiments are specific to the particular paint quality being used. I work a lot with pottery glazes and find very interesting strength relationship between various glaze colorants. Lots of math and science is needed to work creatively with glazes. Here is an optical brain twister. Think about creating a realistic painting that uses all the possible devices for creating the illusion of depth to cancel each other out until the painting appears just as flat as the canvas. Might be a good assignment to reduce sanity. When I was a kid, I also thought I could invent perpetual motion. In my high school psychology text I read that this was a symptom of insanity. I decided to try art where insanity and normality could be mixed with impunity. Marvin ---