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Re: Kohl

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Linda Kelty (lckelty)
Mon, 20 Apr 2099 23:22:31 -0400

To All: if you scroll down through the 3 messages below you may get a
different viewpoint so that you can rationally balance your opinion. I
think we need to keep in sight why we do what we do...and for whom. I have
gone from booth to booth at conferences suggesting products we could use. I
don't care who produces them as long as we can get them for our programs.
At one time the only art game available was color bingo. I went around
clamoring for art memory and card games and spinner games that focused on
art appreciation. I didn't get any free copies of anything, but I was able
to order enough of everything they produced to use in an entire class two
years later. It was great and I got exactly what I wanted. Should they
have paid me, or should I have paid them? The quality and consistency, not
to mention convenience, made their products much more desirable than my
homemade stuff. I didn't need the copy right, I needed the product. If you
don't care to share, why are you on this list? Linda Kelty, West Middle
School, 600 Kindler, Muscatine, Iowa 52761

-----Original Message-----
From: MaryAnn Kohl <maryann>
To: Olejarz2 <Olejarz2>; Artsednet Artsednet
Date: Tuesday, April 20, 1999 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: Kohl

> Thanks for your support. I never intended to take all the ideas and
>write a book. I have plenty of my own, thanks, and mine are only for
>early childhood through elementary anyway. By the way, if I were to see
>an idea I wanted to include in a book, I would ask that person for
>permission and then give them a free book too. I've always thought this
>was ok. I rarely use other people's ideas anyway.... thanks for your
>message. I'm feeling horrible to have been misunderstood at this moment,
>but I think it will all work out. Thanks again.
>>I strongly agree with the message below and would like to add that MaryAnn
>>was up front and thanked people. She could have easily created a fake
>>address and identity and then skimmed whatever ideas she would have liked
>>without anyone knowing.
>>Writing a book is hard work, she should be applauded for making a
>>contribution to our profession!
>>In a message dated 4/20/99 12:25:25 PM, Maahmaah writes:
>><<Well, I have to say something here. We know MaryAnn writes books. I
>>read a few of them. If someone is so naive as to think that she is asking
>>for these ideas just for some sort of hobby and will not be using them for
>>her book, hey! Wake up! Of course she is compiling them for publication.
>> I
>>don't see anything wrong with that. And I don't think she has been
>>blind-siding anyone. It's not required that you send her your ideas. And
>>any one of us, with our experiences and talents, could write books like
>>and "make tons of money". But she is the one going out there and actually
>>doing it. Good for her! I don't find her posts and requests obtrusive.
>>Especially since she compiles the info for us all to read after she gets
>>I rather enjoy her ideas and have found one or two I will be using in a
>>I'm teaching in a couple weeks. Her books reach a bunch of people who may
>>have no other connection to art professionals. I for one would like to
>>her books filled with interesting ideas that motivate young kids and
>>to experience different art materials in a variety of ways. Don't
>>experiences like that for children make all our jobs easier? And last,
>>not least, most of us are on this list (albeit in a roundabout way) for
>>money. I get paid for the work I do, don't you? The ideas and
>>on this list motivate me and help me do better work. (Which, in my case,
>>me more freelance teaching jobs.) I think MaryAnn is doing more good than
>>harm to us all. I am not sure what the gripe is all about.>>
>MaryAnn F. Kohl (WA)