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From: Watkins, Patricia (PWATKIN1_at_TeacherArtExchange)
Date: Mon Apr 28 2008 - 06:16:07 PDT


I don't know the Meet the Masters program, but I teach my students
different artist styles. I found my own style by first copying the
master 'techniques' as an adult in University Painting classes. From
there, I was able to very quickly feel out what worked for me
personally. We have to start somewhere. Just throwing students in with
art supplies and saying, "here paint", is actually rather crude to my
view. We are here to teach them techniques. They will develop their
own as they mature.

Patricia Watkins
Art Specialist
M. C. Williams Middle School
6100 Knox St., Houston, Tx. 77091 (Rte.6)
713-696-2600 Fax 713-696-2604
pwatkin1@houstonisd.org
"Fine Arts Education Matters"
Art: the Essential Part of Everything!

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Subject: teacherartexchange digest: April 26, 2008

TEACHERARTEXCHANGE Digest for Saturday, April 26, 2008.

1. On the road...
2. Re: Pow-Wow
3. where is everybody?Need your input!!!
4. Re: Meet the Masters
5. OT: Adding Excel 2003
6. Re: where is everybody?Need your input!!!
7. RE: where is everybody?Need your input!!!
8. RE: where is everybody?Need your input!!!
9. Re: OT: Adding Excel 2003
10. RE: OT: Adding Excel 2003
11. Re: Meet the Masters

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Subject: On the road...
From: "Lars Hasselblad Torres" <lars@mixedmedia.us>
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:15:10 -0600
X-Message-Number: 1

Sorry I missed your email; I'm traveling. If you need to reach me please
try 202-549-8346 - that's my cell. Thanks,

lars

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Subject: Re: Pow-Wow
From: Betty B <bettycarol_40@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 05:52:25 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 2

Woody, one of the great things about growing up in
Oklahoma is that a strudel, to me, is something you
eat at a Pow-Wow. I bet Helmut's had a strudel wagon
there somewhere!

Betty (in Sac & Fox country)

Betty C Bowen
printmaker, painter
art educator
Cushing Oklahoma
bettycarol_40@sbcglobal.net
http://www.bettybowenart.com
http://bettycbowen.blogspot.com/

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Subject: where is everybody?Need your input!!!
From: "Arpi Krikorian" <arpi71@verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:03:39 -0700
X-Message-Number: 3

Hi Everyone,
I sent an e-mail a few days ago asking if anyone knew about the Meet the
Masters program and I haven't received any replies from any of you. I am
attaching a copy of my e-mail below. I would really appreciate your
feedback.

Have any of you heard of the art lesson program called "Meet the
Masters"?
Many K-12 schools in Pasadena use this program. It introduces children
to
different masters (Van Gogh, Pollock, Picasso, etc...) and has them
paint or
do projects in the style of that artist. With everything I'm reading
saying
don't let children copy other artists' work; I'd like some feedback for
programs such as these. Are they really assisting children in finding
their
own style and expression? Is this a good way to enrich the art education
in
schools? My daughter's school wants to incorporate this program next
year
and I don't feel quite right about it. Any ideas?

Arpi Krikorian
Harlequin Art School
Sierra Madre, CA

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Subject: Re: Meet the Masters
From: twoducks@aol.com
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:35:39 -0400
X-Message-Number: 4

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From: Arpi Krikorian
 I'd like some feedback for
programs such as these. Are they really assisting children in finding
their
own style and expression? Is this a good way to enrich the art
education in
schools? >>

Looking at their advertisement/website I found some things troubling:

<<It's Proven:
Art Education Can Improve Scores in Core Subjects Up To 20%! >> Ellen
Winner at Harvard's Project Zero did research that found no such direct
correlation. That is quite a statement to make without a factual basis
listed on the site.

<<It's Easy:
No Art Background Needed To Teach! Step-by-Step Curriculum!>> They are
bragging here that this is "cookbook" instruction, step by step.

<<It's Fun:
Kids Love the Artist Voices, Interactive Assemblies with costumes, era
props and music, hundreds of slide images, and finally
Create-their-own-Masterpiece Art Activity!>> This also sounds
time-consuming. I assume your child's school does not have an art
program? Are classroom teachers going to do this?

<< Young people who participate in the arts for at least three hours on
three days each week through at least one full year are:>>
Is this program going to run 3 hours per week for fifty two weeks?
That must require quite an investment. What is this program costing
the school?

the student examples shown did not, with one or two exceptions, use
materials in a way that was even close to what the artist being copied
was doing, ie, sandpaper and crayon to replicate pointillism?

I suppose that kids will learn about famous artists and "illustrate"
what they have heard about in a pre determined manner. It certainly
does not appeal to me! Are the administrators choosing this people
with any sort of art background? I assume that California does not
have visual arts standards for elementary age students?

Good luck to you...

kathy douglas
K-3 massachusetts, retired
http://teachingforartisticbehavior.org

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Subject: OT: Adding Excel 2003
From: Maggie White <mwhite139@cox.net>
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:49:40 -0700
X-Message-Number: 5

Hi, all,

The decidedly non-techie Maggie needs some help understanding what to do

here: I'm taking a quick, VERY basic course in Excel 2003. It seems
that the trial version of what came on my computer expired a few years
ago, and that downloading the full version from the Microsoft Web site
will cost $160; I don't see getting my money's worth out of it. Can I
buy it used, like on e-bay or Craigslist, and then install it? Does the

company limit the number of times you can get the software off the disk
and onto your computer?

Maggie

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Subject: Re: where is everybody?Need your input!!!
From: Woody Duncan <woodyduncan@comcast.net>
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:04:45 -0600
X-Message-Number: 6

I went to:
http://www.meetthemasters.com/homeschool/gallery.html
and looked at samples of children's art from the program.
It did not appear to be copying the artists work but rather
learning about their style and approach. It would appear
to be a harmless supplement to any elementary art
program. I'd think it would be unnecessary to purchase
it since any good art teacher introduces various artists
styles anyway.
                                        Woody

On Apr 26, 2008, at 4:03 PM, Arpi Krikorian wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
> I sent an e-mail a few days ago asking if anyone knew about the
> Meet the
> Masters program and I haven't received any replies from any of you.
> I am
> attaching a copy of my e-mail below. I would really appreciate your
> feedback.
>
> Have any of you heard of the art lesson program called "Meet the
> Masters"?
> Many K-12 schools in Pasadena use this program. It introduces
> children to
> different masters (Van Gogh, Pollock, Picasso, etc...) and has them
> paint or
> do projects in the style of that artist. With everything I'm
> reading saying
> don't let children copy other artists' work; I'd like some feedback
> for
> programs such as these. Are they really assisting children in
> finding their
> own style and expression? Is this a good way to enrich the art
> education in
> schools? My daughter's school wants to incorporate this program
> next year
> and I don't feel quite right about it. Any ideas?
>
> Arpi Krikorian
> Harlequin Art School
> Sierra Madre, CA
>
>
>
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Subject: RE: where is everybody?Need your input!!!
From: San D Hasselman <shasselman@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 23:30:08 +0000
X-Message-Number: 7

Here's my question to you. Is this program in lieu of a certified art
teacher? In other words are regular teachers infusing art into their
lessons without an art professional? If they are, perhaps this program
will be giving them some direction.

San D

> Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:03:39 -0700
> From: arpi71@verizon.net
> Subject: [teacherartexchange] where is everybody?Need your input!!!
> To: teacherartexchange@lists.pub.getty.edu
>
> Hi Everyone,
> I sent an e-mail a few days ago asking if anyone knew about the Meet
the
> Masters program and I haven't received any replies from any of you. I
am
> attaching a copy of my e-mail below. I would really appreciate your
> feedback.
>
> Have any of you heard of the art lesson program called "Meet the
Masters"?
> Many K-12 schools in Pasadena use this program. It introduces children
to
> different masters (Van Gogh, Pollock, Picasso, etc...) and has them
paint or
> do projects in the style of that artist. With everything I'm reading
saying
> don't let children copy other artists' work; I'd like some feedback
for
> programs such as these. Are they really assisting children in finding
their
> own style and expression? Is this a good way to enrich the art
education in
> schools? My daughter's school wants to incorporate this program next
year
> and I don't feel quite right about it. Any ideas?
>
> Arpi Krikorian
> Harlequin Art School
> Sierra Madre, CA
>
>
>
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> http://www.getty.edu/education/teacherartexchange/unsubscribe.html

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Subject: RE: where is everybody?Need your input!!!
From: "go4art@juno.com" <go4art@juno.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 00:18:47 GMT
X-Message-Number: 8

"Here's my question to you. Is this program in lieu of a certified art
teacher? In other words are regular teachers infusing art into their
lessons without an art professional? If they are, perhaps this program
will be giving them some direction...San D"

...and if it is in lieu of, what a shame that is!
Linda in Oregon

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Subject: Re: OT: Adding Excel 2003
From: "M. Austin" <whest177@wheatstate.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 22:44:45 -0500
X-Message-Number: 9

Rather than purchase a program that you don't forsee using much, have
you
checked in to using Google Docs? There is a spreadsheet there that is
pretty
decent. I have another site bookmarked at school that is VERY similiar
to MS
Office, but is free.
~Michal

> The decidedly non-techie Maggie needs some help understanding what to
do
> here: I'm taking a quick, VERY basic course in Excel 2003. It seems
that
> the trial version of what came on my computer expired a few years ago,
and
> that downloading the full version from the Microsoft Web site will
cost
> $160; I don't see getting my money's worth out of it. Can I buy it
used,
> like on e-bay or Craigslist, and then install it? Does the company
limit
> the number of times you can get the software off the disk and onto
your
> computer?

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Subject: RE: OT: Adding Excel 2003
From: "Cheryl Lloyd" <clloyd@ceres.k12.ca.us>
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:31:12 -0700
X-Message-Number: 10

Try OpenOffice. You can download it for free on the web. It's Calc
program is almost exactly like Excel.
 
Cheri Lloyd
Art Teacher / Beginning Teacher Mentor
Whitmore Charter School of the Arts and Technology
3435 Don Pedro Road
Ceres, CA 95370
209.556.1610

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From: M. Austin [mailto:whest177@wheatstate.com]
Sent: Sat 4/26/2008 8:44 PM
To: TeacherArtExchange Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [teacherartexchange] OT: Adding Excel 2003

Rather than purchase a program that you don't forsee using much, have
you
checked in to using Google Docs? There is a spreadsheet there that is
pretty
decent. I have another site bookmarked at school that is VERY similiar
to MS
Office, but is free.
~Michal

> The decidedly non-techie Maggie needs some help understanding what to
do
> here: I'm taking a quick, VERY basic course in Excel 2003. It seems
that
> the trial version of what came on my computer expired a few years ago,
and
> that downloading the full version from the Microsoft Web site will
cost
> $160; I don't see getting my money's worth out of it. Can I buy it
used,
> like on e-bay or Craigslist, and then install it? Does the company
limit
> the number of times you can get the software off the disk and onto
your
> computer?

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Subject: Re: Meet the Masters
From: Ray Leal <rayleal@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 21:54:42 -0700
X-Message-Number: 11
California does have standards for elementary art- but California's  
doesn't have a budget that includes it.  Many districts don't have  
elementary art teachers. In my kid's school it was up to the classroom  
teachers and a private foundation that parents established to hire art  
professionals to come in to classrooms a few times a year.
Heather
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